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SABAM Wants Truckers To Pay For Listening To Radio

Posted by Soulskill on from the tell-us-of-your-plight dept.

guruevi writes "SABAM, the Belgian RIAA, wants truckers to start paying for the copyrights to listen to the radio in their cabin (Google translation of Dutch original). SABAM already has a system in place to extract fees from businesses for having radios in the work area for businesses with more than 9 employees, and they find that truckers' cabins are areas of work and thus infringe on their copyrights. The local politicians think this is going too far; they believe truckers need a radio for safety reasons and view a truck cabin as 'an intimate place.'"

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  1. I'd be fine with this, as long as... by NeuralAbyss · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'd be fine with this, as long as the beancounters are forced to personally visit every single trucker in person, and attempt to extract their fees.

    I'd imagine they'd soon have a 'close encounter of the truckstop kind'... perfect sort of punishment for this level of arrogance. Next they'll be demanding fees for listening to the radio while driving to work. The publishing industry will stop at nothing to fraudulently demand fees for others' works.

    1. Re:I'd be fine with this, as long as... by jhoegl · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I find this interesting.
      It used to be that these companies kissed the ass of Radio stations. Who knows, they still might.
      They gave away the songs, tickets to concerts, everything to the radio stations to play the music during prime time to get their songs out there.
      Now, they are wanting the consumer, the very person that will like or dislike their artists work to pay to even listen to it for the first time?
      Complete 180 by the industry.
      Here is what I propose... play garage band songs, and songs by people who dont want to nickle and dime the consumer to death
      Fuck you big industry and suck my balls.

    2. Re:I'd be fine with this, as long as... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The idea they are trying to make us believe is that artist need to be paid, but over 3/4 of the money is going to the labels, not the artist... and really why not keep stealing money form people.

      I live in Belgium, and I am required to pay the tax for the radio (I do not own a radio, nor do I have a car) also, I am required to pay the tax for a TV, when once again I do not own a TV and never watch TV (I think it is filled with too much crap), but as I have a company laptop, I am able to watch TV through the Internet, so I must pay the same tax.

      If we move a bit farther from this, recently the Belgium government changed a bunch of other laws, such as Motorcycle (I do own a motorcycle) must pay the park meter and use car spot to park now, I am fine with this, but then adapt the price and make special parking for bikes, but no, I have to pay the same price as a car, and I have found my bike on the ground twice due to some stupid car trying to take the 3/4 of the spot available.

      It is basically the same everywhere, let's steal money from people, and let's not hold back at any cost because in the end, it is better to make the rich richer!

    3. Re:I'd be fine with this, as long as... by deniable · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Two different groups actually. The radio is being chased by individual record companies trying to grab a bigger slice of finite air-time. This is a collection group with a hunting license from the whole industry. These are the people who charge restaurants for playing the radio that the first group are using to push their product.

    4. Re:I'd be fine with this, as long as... by Krommenaas · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Belgian here. The sad thing is, trying to avoid the SABAM fees by only playing rights-free music in your business leads to all kinds of administrative hassle where you are forced to prove the music you play is rights free. Most people who'd be open to this alternative decide not to bother, which is of course the intention of the hassle. It's just another case of politicians serving business interests over their voters' interests.

  2. Fuck 'em by the+real+darkskye · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They have either paid for the music on CD, or the radio stations have already paid their dues.

    What's next, people who whistle getting charged for public performances?

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    1. Re:Fuck 'em by UnderCoverPenguin · · Score: 4, Interesting

      What's next, people who whistle getting charged for public performances?

      They have tried. I have a neighbor who used to whistle popular tunes. Another neighbor, after trying complaining to the police, then called the American Society of Composers And Publishers, in an effort to silence the whistling. ASCAP lawyers then sent him a Cease and Desist letter, threatening to sue him for the maximum infringement penalty if he did not pay them a settlement immediately. AFAIK, the guy never paid any settlement, but neither did ASCAP further pursue the matter. (And the whistling ended.)

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  3. Re:That's just unfair by Captain+Hook · · Score: 4, Interesting

    No, if you are driving as part of a business then you can't listen to music unless the business have brought the appropriate protection money, so this would apply to anyone traveling on company business. Trucks, Salesman, Field Support etc.

    The group are taking the current rules and applying them to their logical conclusion, hopeful this will prompt government to wonder if the rules as they are currently implemented actually make sense.

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  4. Denmark has been doing this for years by Menkhaf · · Score: 4, Interesting

    KODA, the Danish equivalent of RIAA, had a case in Højesteret (Danish High Court) in 2003 that basically said that when you're at work, the broadcast licence rules for companies is in effect, even if you're a single trucker in a truck.
    Only a few articles in Danish media covered it then. Here's the official statement from KODA at the time and a Google translation here

    (weird links in preview -- wonder how they'll look when I press submit...)

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  5. Re:Money by mwvdlee · · Score: 5, Interesting

    And why pick on truckies (not a group, actually, I'd choose to pick on, but there you go)? Why not - well, anyone?

    Because that's step 5 of their plan.
    Step 2 will be taxi's and public transport.
    Step 3 includes ALL business cars during business hours.
    Step 4 is to tax all vehicles used to commute to work.
    Step 5 is just to tax every vehicle.
    It takes some time for each of these steps to go from "completely unreasonable" to "just a bit les reasonable than the previous law".

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  6. Re:Radio by Dutchmaan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It used to be that music/tv shows were there as an enticement for a viewer to be exposed to the ads..NOW, the viewer/listener is considered 'stealing' the shows, if they don't listen to / watch the ads.

    It's a subtle but disgusting difference.

  7. Re:Simple response by deniable · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Then see how fast big content gets on board with net neutrality.