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MySpace Loses Ten Million Users In One Month

Goldiloxx writes "Social networking website MySpace lost over ten million users between January and February 2011, according to comScore. In February 2011, the Internet website had less than 63 million users, down from a previous total of approximately 73 million."

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  1. QQ by disopaos · · Score: 5, Interesting

    MySpace has no change in surviving anymore. Facebook has 600+ million users and Windows Live Messenger has 330+ million users. The only larger network than those two is interestingly Chinese QQ, which has 636 million users.

    1. Re:QQ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      For those who don't know, "QQ" is a pair of crying eyes in ascii. That's why it's so interesting.

    2. Re:QQ by v1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      MySpace has no change in surviving anymore.

      That's like saying "AOL has no chance in surviving" now that dialup is a joke. But yet, they remain....

      Most things that have gotten that big will die a very slow death.

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    3. Re:QQ by amicusNYCL · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Oh, and nice racism there, calling QQ "Chinese", thus implying it is strange and weird.

      I'm pretty sure you're the one who equated Chinese with strange and weird, I don't see that in the OP. Due to the fact that QQ is developed and operated by a Chinese company, there's nothing racist in saying that QQ is Chinese. It is. "Chinese" is not a racist term, it's a demonym.

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    4. Re:QQ by croddy · · Score: 2

      Wikipedia tells me that QQ is owned by a Chinese company and is the most popular IM service in China. Is that incorrect? If so, you may wish to edit the article.

    5. Re:QQ by blair1q · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Do you really believe that Facebook has 600 million users? Or is it more like 600 million unique login names?

      Because I personally know several people with several dozen accounts that they use to game the games that require you to have scads of social acquaintances willing to play the games along with you.

      I'd put FB's real usership at 50-150 million. The rest are fake.

    6. Re:QQ by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Some people see "racism" everywhere. They see race first in just about everything. They are the real racists, but try telling them that, and they'll deny it profusely because the idea that people who inject "race" into everything, even when it is clearly not a factor as being "racism", escapes their limited small minds.

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    7. Re:QQ by Omestes · · Score: 2

      Oh, and nice racism there, calling QQ "Chinese", thus implying it is strange and weird.

      So am I racist when I say Facebook is an American company? Since when is referring to where things were founded racism? If I say "LiveJournal is Russian", and I somehow attacking Russians?

      Stop being so quick to the gun. I didn't see anything remotely racist in the OP's post, nor, I doubt, did most other people. I don't know why you really want to be offended by things, but it probably isn't healthy. People who constantly look for offense are more annoying than the genuinely offensive.

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    8. Re:QQ by l0ungeb0y · · Score: 2

      The only larger network than those two is interestingly Chinese QQ, which has 636 million users.

      Well, considering that the population of China is just over 1.3 billion, I think that size of user base is to be expected

    9. Re:QQ by Belial6 · · Score: 2

      With an average of 6 accounts per player, that equals 450 million fake accounts. Sounds like the previous poster had a pretty good estimate.

    10. Re:QQ by Zerth · · Score: 4, Funny

      Once all the old people who don't realize AOL is still hitting their credit card have died, so will AOL.

    11. Re:QQ by MBGMorden · · Score: 2

      Cobol isn't just "around", Cobol is all over the place. It's not new or interesting, and IMHO is a decidedly outdated language (I'd slap anyone who proposed developing a NEW system in Cobol), but realistically, it works for what it's intended to in most of the places where it's deployed, otherwise it would have been long replaced.

      Regardless of what's currently "in style", it's a tough business case to throw money at a problem that has already been solved. That rings even more true in a troubled economy.

      NOTE: I say this as a person who knows absolutely zero Cobol. I program mostly in C# and Java, but I DO still have to interface with a lot of Cobol programs that likely won't be replaced any time soon.

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    12. Re:QQ by blair1q · · Score: 2

      250 million log in at any given day.

      The fb app on my phone remains logged in and retrieves the latest news in the background. But that's beside the point.

      The point is, someone who has 25 avatars in a game will log in 25 times to perform the tasks that a game player has to do to improve enough to be significant in the game. Usually there is the player's primary character, who is the focus of all the avatars' attention, being a collection point for gifts and the primary initiator of quest activities (to get the loot and other benefits of being the one initiating it) that the avatars converge on to complete.

      This is not a reasonable thing to do in a game with a realtime component (like WoW) since it would involve in some cases needing two pairs of hands to operate in concert to complete tasks. But all the games I know of on fb don't require real-time action (other than completing certain tasks in under a certain number of hours or days). Well, except the poker game. Though if you have two computers you can put up two avatars and join a table and spoof the games, trade chips, give gifts, etc; so it's not impossible or useless.

      So there's nothing inconsistent between my estimate of the numbers and your observation that they are "active" numbers.

    13. Re:QQ by yeshuawatso · · Score: 2

      Well, let's see. My wife has one account she uses personally, another account for her photo business, another account she manages for the four year old since he's apparently old enough to be exploited by Facebook's lack of privacy but not old enough to at least enjoy the exploitation himself, and two more other accounts she uses to spy on me and other women she doesn't trust. That's five right there. I only have one account, but then again, Facebook is just another email address for me. I personally don't get the whole "social" fad.

  2. Keep trying... by fermat1313 · · Score: 2
    From TFA:

    MySpace's Chief Executive Officer Michael Jones has claimed that the website is "no longer a social network anymore" and that it is currently a "social entertainment destination".

    Allow me to translate: "Our business model is screwed, because someone else did it much better, so we're desperately trying to rebrand ourself as something else"

    It's in people's nature to never give up, keep trying to the bitter end, but this is a sinking ship that cannot be saved.

    1. Re:Keep trying... by Stuntmonkey · · Score: 2

      Their CEO has a background in international business and marketing. Talk about the kiss of death for a technology company.

      Has there ever been a successful tech company run by a marketing person? This is an honest question.

    2. Re:Keep trying... by vlm · · Score: 3, Informative

      Has there ever been a successful tech company run by a marketing person? This is an honest question.

      DAK is as close as I can think of. I enjoyed reading his catalog. Of course they went bankrupt but for many years they were somewhat successful.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DAK_Industries

      The wikipedia article carefully avoids discussing the demise of DAK, but as I recall the problem was he was quite talented at profitably selling "last years stereo" but he bought heavily, and tried to sell "last years computer" and went bankrupt.

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    3. Re:Keep trying... by HiThere · · Score: 2

      Jobs isn't exactly a marketing person, more a sort of technological missionary. And when Sculley was running it, Apple tanked. Sculley *was* a marketing person (imported from Pepsi).

      Even Sculley has admitted that he was the wrong choice as director. He's a marketer, and a good one. But that wasn't the right specialty.

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  3. Re:News? by sandytaru · · Score: 4, Insightful

    MySpace is destined to go the way of Geocities, Livejournal, etc. The latter is still hanging on by a thread, the former was devoured by Yahoo! who then killed it. And yes, Twitter is about to follow suit. Facebook I'm not so sure will suffer the same fate. The partnership with Zynga and its addictive games means that it will have users for years who would have otherwise dumped the site for greener pastures. The only danger is when/if Zynga abandons Facebook to strike out on its own, allowing access via apps from mobile devices directly. That will be FB's downfall.

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  4. I don't think it's that bad... by fivevoltforest · · Score: 5, Funny

    I doubt they actually lost 10 million users, probably just a few thousand 50-year-old men *pretending* to be 10 million teenage girls.

  5. 10,000,001 by DynamoJoe · · Score: 5, Funny

    i knew I forgot something....

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  6. wrong place for my bandsite by ruebarb · · Score: 2, Funny

    so printing my myspace address on the back of a CD like I did 3 years ago was a bad idea?

    crap

    www.myspace.com/russbro - say hello to www.facebook.com/russbrownmusic

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    1. Re:wrong place for my bandsite by trollertron3000 · · Score: 2

      The irony is myspace seems to be the place all musical artists go to these days, with facebook being an afterthought. I do concert and show promotion as a side business and I see tons of myspace band sites still. Facebook doesn't really cater to them like myspace did. It's ashame.

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    2. Re:wrong place for my bandsite by shish · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Protip to all musicians (and indeed, everyone everywhere): for about $10/year you can buy a domain name, put that on your CDs / business cards / etc, and stick up a redirect to whichever social network you're on this week

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  7. this is facebook's fate too by circletimessquare · · Score: 5, Insightful

    anyone remember friendster?

    it's my belief that social networks will rise and fall, endlessly in succession. simply because ubiquity eventually becomes a liability amongst a crowd who views exclusion and superiority to be more important. eventually, one of these smaller exclusive networks becomes the object of envy for others to be "in" that exclusive group, and the long march to ubiquity begins, until you start all over again

    its an empty vapid game. its also pretty much boilerplate sociological fact. consider nightclubs in cities: the small chic "in" club that everyone wants to get into, overexposure, then decline because the "cool" kids want their own exclusive club. rinse, repeat

    and no, facebook will not become ubiquitous plumbing. because they need to make money to survive. to make that money, they need to sell the personal details of their members. which is a force that will drive people from facebook as they wise up to how creepy that really is: by feeding their personal details to the machine, they are telling their abuser how to abuse them

    so be on the lookout for the next friendster/ myspace/ facebook. could be diaspora. or maybe being programmed right now in some dorm room. $$$ to the chaps who start/ find the right network at the right time, and ride that rocket all the way up

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    1. Re:this is facebook's fate too by circletimessquare · · Score: 2

      i see you understand the resistance to myspace that made exclusivity attractive, but you say its better to have everyone on it. what i'd like you to consider is that you are only 120 degrees of an arc along a story that has an endless 360 degree circle. the story keeps going around and around: 1. desire for exclusivity, 2. desire for ubiquity, rinse, repeat

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    2. Re:this is facebook's fate too by timeOday · · Score: 2

      ubiquity eventually becomes a liability amongst a crowd who views exclusion and superiority to be more important.

      But that's exactly the key innovation of facebook - exclusion. All its users are not in one big group that can all see each other; you have to be invited, i.e. "friended." Thus the lame people aren't too bothersome to the cool people, even if they do access the same domain name. Friend networks can rise and fall all within facebook. At least that's the idea. We'll see.

  8. Re:Murdoch by HangingChad · · Score: 2

    >Thank goodness he bet on the wrong social network.

    MySpace is what you get when Rupert Murdoch tries to be hip. He should stick to scaring old people and giving them sound bite answers to complex problems, it's what he does best.

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  9. It's called my[___] now by Control-Z · · Score: 3, Funny

    As if it could get any worse, now their name has underscores in it.

    1. Re:It's called my[___] now by brian0918 · · Score: 2

      That space represents the increasingly empty void of content and creativity. Expect to see their name get longer with time.

    2. Re:It's called my[___] now by VortexCortex · · Score: 2

      Really? Maybe I've been corrupted by the Internet, but I thought it was a clever ASCII version of Goatse.

    3. Re:It's called my[___] now by dadelbunts · · Score: 3, Funny

      I hate you so much. What has been seen, cannot be unseen.

  10. The next social network by rednip · · Score: 2

    The next and 'final' social network will be an open source peer-to-peer network with commercial caching and hosting; if my plan works.

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  11. Re:From TFA by wmbetts · · Score: 2

    But my life coach said if I think hard enough it'll come true!

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  12. 1 million users lost? by Burning1 · · Score: 2

    Does that include users who have abandoned the service?

    I have a myspace account. I don't think I've updated it in 5 years.

  13. Owned by NewsCorp by gQuigs · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Awesome news. I wish it had more to do with people actively looking at boycotting News Corp.

    I've been working on a firefox extension to help people boycott News Corp, NBC and others: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/webcott/
    Also looking at alternatives to myspace here: http://bryanquigley.com/webcott/leave-myspace-for-wordpress-com

    1. Re:Owned by NewsCorp by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2

      Yes, the correct thing to do is exclude yourself from experiencing diverse points of view. Scientology did the same thing, its adherents boycott heretical websites via an automated filter. Remember, ideas are weapons, don't let yourself think dangerous or subversive ideas.

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  14. Re:From TFA by Octorian · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You were actually able to view a MySpace page for long enough to want to rip your eyes out? I'm impressed. Back when MySpace was popular, most of those pages would crash my web browser long before I actually got to look at them.

  15. Myspace and Rustock Botnet by thejuggler · · Score: 2

    Interesting coincidence that the Rustock Botnet spam network was taken down and MySpace loses 10 Million accounts? I know these two events can't be connected to each other, right?

  16. Re:Murdoch by blair1q · · Score: 2

    This is true, but at the time he bought MySpace, it was worth a lot more than Facebook was. Which is why he bought it. He thought he was going to rule with MySpace and Facebook would remain smaller forever.

  17. exactly by circletimessquare · · Score: 3, Insightful

    you're talking about a social network protocol, like http, smtp, nntp, etc

    the point is, we'd have many different internets today if it was started as different walled gardens you had to pay for. well, actually, that is the way it was: bbses, compuserve, etc. all of which died in favor of the free and the open

    so end game for friendster/ myspace/ facebook is a free and open social network protocol. sntp sounds too confusingly like smtp so lets call it...

    vytp

    vapid yammering transfer protocol

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  18. Re:News? by tooyoung · · Score: 2

    The news is that you can actually cancel your account! Now, if I could just remember my password...

  19. Re:News? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Ebay and Facebook are different beasts, but Facebook can remain the top social networking site while still being in decline. Maybe it's because I think Facebook's appeal is in part due to its relative newness.

    "Hey, I can post my thoughts in one place and all these people will see them!"

    "Hey, I haven't talked to her in years and now I can find out what's going on in her daily life without picking up the phone."

    After awhile you realize that getting the 1 page update in the Xmas card each year is more than enough.

  20. Re:Mexico City analogy. by demonbug · · Score: 2

    Bakersfield has no chance of surviving.

    Now there's a relief.

  21. Re:News? by istartedi · · Score: 2

    eBay seems like a natural monopoly to me. When you auction something, you have to pick one site. You can't auction the same item at multiple auction sites. Since everybody has to pick one, they pick what they think is the best one. For an auction "best" is closely tied to "popular" since exposure is important. Once a clear winner emerged, it was all she wrote.

    Frankly, I'm surprised that eBay/paypal gets away with this monopoly. It definitely keeps me away. I'd like to see them forced to use competing payment services in particular.

    Anyway, I digress. You could cross-post all your stupid updates and baby pictures to multiple sites and it wouldn't matter.

    FaceBook's lock-in is switching cost. It's a lower barrier. If you're a teenager and you haven't really put anything important on FB then switching is easy. If you've put someting embarassing on FB then switching might also be desireable. You just start telling people, "Oh, I'm on the hip new NewBook" and hope they don't go looking for your old FB account.

    Before FB started waging war on anonymity, a lot of people had disposable IDs. That's a market that FB can't serve.

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  22. Re:Murdoch by vlm · · Score: 2

    scaring old people and giving them sound bite answers to complex problems

    Isn't that the business model of myspace / facebook / twitter?

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  23. Re:News? by Rizimar · · Score: 2

    That's basically what Facebook did to MySpace. It improved on social networking beyond what MySpace offered because it was more personalized and less childish (using real names and not allowing horrible page layouts, for starters. Facebook also didn't stop loading pages within every five internal links like MySpace often did). Facebook also monetizes more intelligently and less intrusively, aiming ads at users who may be interested in seeing them using a small box on the side panel rather than Flash popups on music players and whatever else MySpace did.

    Needless to say, I think that Facebook is going to be around for some time. They've known what they're doing since they started.

  24. Re:News? by RJHelms · · Score: 2

    I'm not surprised they are losing this many users. Rather than stagnating and becoming irrelevant like Geocities and Livejournal, MySpace is actively alienating it's userbase.

    They saw that people were moving to other platforms, and decided to engage in a poorly thought out redesign that took the features people actually used, and removed, broke, or hid them.

    I haven't deleted my MySpace accounts, but as a musician until recently did have a worthwhile reason for logging in periodically to keep in touch with venues and other bands, and as a URL I could give out to showcase recordings and show dates. All that functionality is fubed now, as is the layout and design of my page.

    I won't be back.

  25. Re:News? by tooyoung · · Score: 3, Informative

    When I cancelled my account, I noticed a few interesting things:

    1. My list of friends was significantly reduced from what it had been in the past, making me think that they cancelled their accounts.
    2. Myspace is completely different looking than it was however long ago I last logged in. You wouldn't even recognize it now. Apparently when they redid the look, they wiped out any customized backgrounds that were set.
    3. For some reason, myspace decided that I am following Justin Bieber, Russell Crowe, Tom Petty, and a whole slew of other celebrities, most of which I have never heard of. The entire content of my 'home' screen is a bunch of updates from bands and actors that I have no interest in.
    4. None of my remaining friends have posted a comment in over a year.
    5. I apparently 'earned' a 'badge' for joining myspace 'before it was cool'. I'm pretty sure I was a late adopter.
    6. You can cancel your account, but it is a separate step process that involves you responding to a confirmation email. Perhaps that is reasonable. They grovel for you to stay at several points in the process.

  26. Why it failed by kehren77 · · Score: 2

    MySpace was the GeoCities of social media sites. Every page had horrific backgrounds and thousands of animated GIFs and there was crap blinking everywhere.

    I'm surprised that a good percentage of MySpace users didn't die from epileptic seizures induced by all that flashing.

  27. Re:News? by insertwackynamehere · · Score: 2

    Your argument in defense of eBay works for Facebook as well though. Another auction site can't gain traction because eBay has a user base and is well known? Well same with Facebook. Users won't start suddenly using iAuctionSite just like they won't start suddenly using Face-whatever. For another company to break into the market, they will have to convince users to switch and users won't switch unless their personal threshold of other users who have already switched is met. What is an auction site with no auctions and buyers? And what is a social networking site with no people? It can be done, but it is much harder than just stealing people away from a brand.

    Facebook knows that a million social networking sites exist for specific topics. They created an API so that these sites can piggyback off of Facebook rather than compete. A small company that doesn't want to compete with Facebook wins because they are more likely to get registered users. Larger sites are sort of forced into integrating with Facebook because it is expected of them. Ones that aren't in direct competition like it too for marketing. A site in direct competition with Facebook can add it to the list of problems they are already facing by attempting to exist.

    Facebook just rolled out commenting inline with a blog or website. Now, comments are going to start being Facebook centric more and more, even if you aren't on Facebook. They use meta tags now that allow someone to have their webpage recognized as a Facebook searchable entity (Open Graph protocol). Facebook's hooks are deep because they have a userbase and are embedded throughout the web. Logins rely on them, social media relies on them, commenting systems are starting to rely on them.

    Myspace was unlucky because they found themselves as a big player in the start of an important game. Unfortunately, coming into it completely new left them with something unsustainable: an immature implementation of social networking that only went as far as the website itself.

    Myspace is like Altavista, Excite, AskJeeves and/or Yahoo. They all were big names in the emerging search engine market and everyone tech-saavy or with a computer in the 90s heard of them. They had great ideas and really opened up an entire world that is still important. However Google came along and did everything right. They all (or most) still exist in some form I believe but it's like Myspace is now. These were huge companies at one point. They aren't going to collapse in on themselves the same way as smaller companies, but they aren't relevant. Google and Facebook meanwhile aren't showing signs of stopping and a collapse would affect things much much more than just a website going down, at this point, due to the massive amount of integration.

  28. Re:News? by shermo · · Score: 2

    Agreed. MySpace was in a great position to become THE indy music network, but they failed to realise that opportunity and went through with a massive redesign that alienated all those users.

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  29. Re:News? by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 2

    Who knew there were that many 14 year old Emo chicks?

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  30. Re:News? by Dogtanian · · Score: 2

    Apparently when they redid the look, they wiped out any customized backgrounds that were set.

    And that's a bad thing???!!!!

    As far as I'm concerned, MySpaces eye-gougingly fugly "customized backgrounds" should have been nuked from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

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