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Facebook, Zuckerberg Sued For $1 Billion Over Intifada Page
An anonymous reader writes with this excerpt from ZDNet: "Larry Klayman, the founder of Judicial Watch and Freedom Watch, has filed a lawsuit against Facebook and its CEO Mark Zuckerberg for their role in furthering a 'radical' Facebook Page called 'Third Palestinian Intifada,' which openly advocated another uprising against the citizens of Israel. The complaint reserves the right to be amended into a class action suit and prays for compensatory and punitive damages in excess of $1 billion. ... As a quick refresher, Facebook originally said it would not remove the page but would monitor it instead. The company later pulled the page after discussions degraded into violence and hatred."
This will be tossed out instantly. #1: Where does the amount come from? #2: This random idiot can't sue on behalf of "society" or whatever the hell he's doing. The government, or possibly victims if any violence did occur, would have to do that. #3: I'd bet the farm that there's no proof. #4: Is not blocking hate speech a crime/tort? I don't think so.
Enough already, they are not even funny to begin with. Seriously, April Fools is overrated and the domain of the inferior intellect.
...except for people I disagree with.
"The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all."
-- H.L.Mencken
93rd rule of Slashdot: No matter how obvious my sarcasm is, my comment will be taken seriously by someone.
If the Israelis would stop committing crimes against humanity it might be a bit easier to take them seriously. But as it's presently war criminals against terrorists and the people they represent, it's really hard to grant either side any sort of moral authority.
That's pretty much my opinion. I've said it dozens of times in various places: There are no "Good Guys" in this conflict. Only the naive - amend that - only the naive who live protected lives in ivory castles - can believe otherwise.
"Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it." - Charlie Br
the murder of Sabra and Shatila was made Prime Minister. The siege of Gaza is ongoing collective punishment. Israeli forces committed what would be considered piracy if civilians had done it against a humanitarian aid convoy.
Citation needed? More like getting your head out of your ass needed.
Like the GP said, it's war criminals against terrorists.
FYI, Israel started the 6 day war. Also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
Cool, so you're saying that so long as people aren't on your side it's ok to commit war crimes?
Maybe talk to the Jews who survived auschwitz about that one. Tell them that it's ok their families were gassed because the Jews were on the wrong side of WWII. Maybe tell the families that survived occupied France that it was just to kill off dissidents because France sided with the allies.
Tell the families of Vietnam that their agent orange babies are cool because they sided with the USSR.
It's easy to shrug off war crimes as "necessary" when you're siding with the ones committing the war crimes. War crimes are war crimes, there's no way to dodge the issue. No matter what an aggressor does it's never ok to commit war crimes.
The Six Day War doesn't matte now. The old rhetoric about driving the Jews into the sea probably doesn't matter either. I think thus far the problem has been :
(a) The Palestinians have never had a really credible peace directed leader.
(b) Israel only rarely has leaders who credibly want peace.
If even a significant minority of the Palestinians were following some strong Imam who preached peace, well that'd likely inspire the Israelis to elect someone sane. Instead : The PLO/PA's leadership focusses more upon their own bank accounts. Hamas' are a bunch of religious psychopaths. Israel's right wing are equally psychopathic. And Israel's moderate politicians cannot retain power without acquiescing to the right.
The wall is helping though.
The Christian religion has been and still is the principal enemy of moral progress in the world. -- Bertrand Russell
Really? I don't believe that, it's easy to take the moral high ground when its not happening to *you*. I can sit there and say everyone should get a fair trial, yada yada yada. However, if my family were ever taken hostage, and I was given a rifle and could take a killing shot, no judge, no jury, no bullshit, there's not a chance in hell I wouldn't take that shot.
Would you?
Now lets look at history and revise the above scenario.
In this case Isreal had experienced over 120 acts of terror against it in the preceding 18 months by the new PLO and had seen major troop build ups and movements by both Syria and Egypt.
SO back to my original scenario, you see someone lurking outside your home with a gun, rapping on the windows and breaking into your car in the driveway. Do you wait until they enter the house and kidnap your family? Or do you act first?
I know what I would I do.....
Usually my allergy to stupid becomes more manageable around on Friday around 5pm Eastern... This just sent it flaring up again.
To understand recursion, you must first understand recursion.
If Facebook is going to ban one side's speech, let's see them do the same for the others. And yet Facebook pages with such titles as "mavet laaravim" (Death to the Arabs) abound...
Statements like yours is big reason why this conflict is still raging. As long as the conspiracy theories, omission of facts, and outright lies continue to circulate the level of animosity will continue to grow. Until the Arab's stop threatening Israel's existence there will be no peace. The Arab's initiated this conflict in 48 and then got their asses handed to them in 67 and again in 73. It was in 48 when the Arabs repudiated the UN decision to create the state of Israel and then evacuated most of the Arab's in the expected area of conflict with promises they could come back in a few days after they finished killing all the Jews. Everyone knows how that turned out. The Arab's should have paid lip service to the UN decision at least long enough to work out some type of plan before rushing the war. I'll admit I don't know whether the UN resolution was a good decision or not but time has made that irrelevant today. The fact is the resolution was passed and Israel does exist and I seriously doubt the Israeli's are going to pack up and leave anytime soon. In 48 the world was still recovering from war and the horrors associated with war. The discovery of the death camps was fresh in every ones mind at that time and that generated a lot of sympathy for the Jews and I have to believe that sympathy made a big impact when it came to passing the resolution.
When they said they would not pull it, but would monitor it, they opened themselves up for litigation. This is the sort of thing that's allowed common carriers at least the illusion of immunity from persecution over what goes through their networks. As soon as Facebook said they would monitor it, that was a statement that they are not a common carrier. By "monitoring" it, they assumed responsibility for it.
Bad move on their part, no matter what you might think of the subject.
"I am an Adept of Tantric VAX."
You mean, like, siding with those that fight the guys that won your home in an international raffle?
Hey, imagine it's 200 years from now and the native Americans suddenly get a UN resolution passed that kicks you out of your home because they kinda-sorta owned the place some 100 years ago and want it back. Will you side with Canada and Mexico in their battle to kick the Indians butt?
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Statements like yours is big reason why this conflict is still raging. As long as the conspiracy theories, omission of facts, and outright lies continue to circulate the level of animosity will continue to grow. Until the Arab's stop threatening Israel's existence there will be no peace. The Arab's initiated this conflict in 48 and then got their asses handed to them in 67 and again in 73. It was in 48 when the Arabs repudiated the UN decision to create the state of Israel and then evacuated most of the Arab's in the expected area of conflict with promises they could come back in a few days after they finished killing all the Jews. Everyone knows how that turned out. The Arab's should have paid lip service to the UN decision at least long enough to work out some type of plan before rushing the war. I'll admit I don't know whether the UN resolution was a good decision or not but time has made that irrelevant today. The fact is the resolution was passed and Israel does exist and I seriously doubt the Israeli's are going to pack up and leave anytime soon. In 48 the world was still recovering from war and the horrors associated with war. The discovery of the death camps was fresh in every ones mind at that time and that generated a lot of sympathy for the Jews and I have to believe that sympathy made a big impact when it came to passing the resolution.
And if the UN stepped in and took half or more of your country away from you because a western country couldn't control the populace, you wouldn't be pissed off? I'd damn well expect my neighboring countries to step up and defend against an annexation.
Yep, and more than that. The victorious Allies felt they had to do something about the attrocities commited in Germany against the jewish people. So they wanted to give them their own homeland. That's great. But they didn't of course offer a chunk of England, or France or the US or even of Germany. They used Britain's colonial power to give them a bit of someone else's land (which admitedly they had historical ties to and substantial moveement wanted back). And then the colonial power left. So a state was created that was surrounded by enemies. It was entirely understandable and predictable that they would be enemies. It was understanadable that the Israelis would be determined to survive. The results are everyone's fault but most of all the Allies who set it all up.
If you live in a country where there's sometimes tensions over immigration then imagine what it would be like if you'd been under the sway of a colonial power for a long time, and that power then decided to take a part of your land and give it as a new country to a group of people who had mostly left the area hundreds of years ago. And then the colonial power left. Obviously everything would be hunky dory - everyone liveing in peace and happiness.
To summarise the summary of the summary: people are a problem. ~ h2g2