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Ask Slashdot: What Country Has the Best Email Privacy Laws?

An anonymous reader writes "Given all that is going on with the ability of the government to go through my email if it is on a third-party server, I was wondering: what countries have the best privacy laws and what are some good hosts to use? I would rather pay a token fee to have secure private email than have members of the government able to read it as soon as it's 180 days old if I keep it at my email provider."

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  1. privacy laws won't fix a broken privacy model by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Email is inherently insecure, since it is transmitted in clear text and stored in multiple hops between destination and recipient, where its contents may be intercepted, altered, copied, stored, etc.. If you're relying on the law to keep your email private, you've already lost. Use digital signatures for authenticity and integrity, and strong encryption for confidentiality. At that point, you really don't need the law's help to keep your emails private.

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    1. Re:privacy laws won't fix a broken privacy model by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 3, Informative

      I mean, do you even know what countries your emails might route through between sending and arriving at their destination? If you're going to go to a server in a different country to gain the benefit of their better privacy laws, you're likely going to need to transfer data over networks that geographically reside in other countries too. And your end points probably are still somewhere within your own country. What are the laws like there?

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    2. Re:privacy laws won't fix a broken privacy model by klapaucjusz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Email is inherently insecure, since it is transmitted in clear text

      Most mail nowadays is transmitted over SSL. Yes, that's still vulnerable to MITM-ing, but it's no longer a simple matter of passive snooping.

      If you're relying on the law to keep your email private, you've already lost.

      Please. Strong privacy laws won't prevent ISPs from occasionally snooping on their users, granted. With no privacy laws, howver, expect your ISP to routinely spy on you, and sell the data to advertising companies.

      -- jch

    3. Re:privacy laws won't fix a broken privacy model by klapaucjusz · · Score: 5, Informative
      STARTTLS is used between mail servers if:
      • both the sender and the receiver support the STARTTLS extension; and
      • the receiver has been configured with a certificate (even a self-signed one).

      All modern mail servers support STARTTLS, and most ISPs have configured a certificate in their MX. To see if yours has, do the following:

      $ host -t mx google.com
      google.com mail is handled by 50 alt4.aspmx.l.google.com.
      google.com mail is handled by 30 alt2.aspmx.l.google.com.
      google.com mail is handled by 40 alt3.aspmx.l.google.com.
      google.com mail is handled by 10 aspmx.l.google.com.
      google.com mail is handled by 20 alt1.aspmx.l.google.com.
      $ telnet aspmx.l.google.com smtp
      Trying...
      Connected to aspmx.l.google.com.
      Escape character is '^]'.
      220 mx.google.com ESMTP
      EHLO localhost
      250-mx.google.com at your service
      250-SIZE 35882577
      250-8BITMIME
      250-STARTTLS
      250 ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
      QUIT /blockquote

  2. Storing email? by krelvin · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If this is really worried about this...Why are you storing any email on a 3rd party server? As new email arrives, save it to your local computer, removing it from the inbox. No email is then left to become 180 days old. Nothing to worry about. Actually that is not true since you most likely will be worrying about something else then too, but...

  3. What Country Has the Best Snail-Mail Privacy Laws? by lobiusmoop · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Given I can't be bothered to take the most basic steps to gain a little privacy for my letters, like using envelopes, writing everything on postcards that let everybody in the postal industry in contact with my mail read it, what are the best couriers for me to send my letters with?

    Honestly, I think some articles are just deliberate trolls for the computer-security folks on Slashdot.

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  4. "...what countries have the best privacy laws..." by John+Hasler · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Because we all know that all govenments can be trusted to respect such laws when their own interests are at stake.

    If you have secrets that you must protect against goverments why are leaving them (unencrypted, evidently) on third party servers? And why are you discussing that fact on a public forum?

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  5. Re:Best email security laws? by houstonbofh · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Havenco closed in 2008. No sealand hosting now.

  6. For email apply the same laws as for paper mails by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ... at least in germany and most european countries.

    If you want to read them you need a search warrant.

    angel'o'sphere

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  7. Re:RETARDED by Jurily · · Score: 3, Insightful

    legally private, as opposed to "secure"

    I'm not sure this term has any meaning when applied to information that is instantly, cheaply and undetectably duplicated, especially if this duplication is the whole fucking point. How many servers did that mail pass through while it got to the recipient?

    What we really need is to define encryption as a basic human right.

  8. IMMI - International Modern Media Initiative. by mordur · · Score: 3, Informative

    I don't know which country has the best protection for users of online services now, but Iceland most certainly will be a contender when the IMMI legislation has been passed as per the Parliamentary Resolution passed on June 16. last year. Check it out: http://immi.is/