Census Tech Makeover Includes Innovation "Oasis"
CWmike writes "The US Census Bureau is in the midst of a tech makeover following criticism of its technology deployments leading up to the 2010 Census, ranging from problems with its payroll processing system to its handhelds. The problems resulted in soaring costs and caustic criticism from lawmakers. The makeover aims to consolidate operations as well as enable the bureau's IT staff to be more creative and inventive. One effort includes establishing a place for its IT staff to generate ideas and test technologies. The Center for Applied Technology, as it's been named, will serve 'as a focal point for bringing entrepreneurial-minded staff, emerging technologies, and pressing business problems facing the Census together,' said the agency, in response to written questions from Computerworld about the plans, following Grove's testimony. 'Once the physical space is redesigned, it will serve as an oasis that will inspire Census staff to think creatively at an enterprise level to solve some of the more pertinent issues facing the Bureau,' the agency said. The center 'employs a 'think tank' concept where Census staff can work directly with corporate leaders in technology, key members of other government agencies, and academia.'"
Just because you have a redesign of your interior does not mean that they'll be better enabled to "be more creative". I'd say quality assurance and constant retesting/redesign leading up to the next census will be much more beneficial.
The Census was one of the bigger cuts in the latest round of budgeting. And their job can be done on an iPhone.
And, anyway, techies don't think in think-tanks. They come up with their best stuff when they're ass-deep in alligators and wondering why the swamp was built in the middle of the I/O library.
Looks like an infestation of administratus runamokus.
How come I think that the technology coming out of this place will never see the light of day:
The Center for Applied Technology, as it's been named, will serve 'as a focal point for bringing entrepreneurial-minded staff, emerging technologies, and pressing business problems facing the Census together'
Well, one manager folk told me and my manager in a call, when we asked about some features: "We are currently implementing plans to size the effort."
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The only problem is that your method will miss those without an address, those who moved, those who got married and changed their name, and so on. I serously doubt anyone has even close to accurate data on where people live in this country. And the return rate on most forms is dismal; in the single digits. So if you want the census to be near-accurate you need to have people out there counting. Also, since political power is divied up on the basis of census data, you want a process that's verifieable. It's not as simple as shoving 200,000,000 forms out the door and then waiting for the returns - unless you want people cooking up info to get more political representation.
I worked on the 2010 Census as your typical door-to-door person. From the bottom up, it's unorganized. There's reams of paper for each task and work is somewhat uncoordinated. Despite what some may think, the people who worked it were generally capable and intelligent, but the lack of technology and stacks of paperwork were just begging for errors (which occured often). I wouldn't go so far as to say the collection process should be abolished in favor of statistical inference, but it could be done far more efficiently (and cheaply).
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Apparently you have never worked with data. It's an incredibly creative process, especially when all answers are technically correct but only certain ones are more helpful, useful, or easily interpretable.
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So it's the government?
In other words. The data we selectively choose is only meaningful when we say it is.
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"The problems resulted in soaring costs"
That's weird, I thought the census was $1.6 billion under budget.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/federal-eye/2010/08/2010_census_was_16_billion_und.html
Data is not selectively chosen, solutions are based on empirical evidence among many other factors. George Box, one of the great statisticians of modern science explained, "all models are wrong, some models are useful". However, if you have no idea about statistics or inferential theories that underly modern science you can continue spouting nonsense. Let the adults finish this conversation.
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I wonder if they intend the Oasis metaphor to extend out to the desert around it.
Or, to mix metaphors, are they basically saying "Nothing will change around here, but we'll build you an enclosed sandbox to shut you up. SURE we'll listen to ideas."
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However, if you have no idea about statistics or inferential theories that underly modern science ...
Unfortunately, this is a discussion about the census, and the census is not based upon statistics, it is a ENUMERATION of the population. I.e., a COUNT. That is what the Constitution mandates; that is what should happen.
They need less innovation and more limitation of scope. The census should only consist of two basic pieces of information: address and the number of residents.
Didn't we just have a discussion about how overpaid government workers are?
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2008748&cid=35289538
Are you sure that wasn't $50K/yr with 25 hour workweeks?
How about we just fix and then test the Census PDAs we already bought. We had to go back to paper and pencil for the Census because some Goverment contractors couldn't deliver a PDA that took surveys. If the government gets working on the problem RIGHT NOW, maybe we'll get workingPDAs in time for the next census. Oh, here's a tip order new batteries no earlier then a year in advance.
I was a manager in a Census office. The technical desktop support was OK. But they built an in-house system to track all the data input and it never worked, ever.
We ended up, in many cases, putting data into Access DBs which would be downloaded by HO overnight. Complete and utter flustercluck.
I spend hours writing up a report, as did all the managers, detailing everything that went wrong. Funny thing is, the people that had worked the prior Census said it was the same issues. Guess that report wont do much good. :(
Good people though, hard workers and for the most part, did their jobs well.
No, it's because the News is no longer independent at any level. Corporations own it all. Fox News is just their bulldog, making the rest of them seem less ridiculously solicitous of plutocratic ideals.
Apparently you have never worked with data. It's an incredibly creative process, especially when all answers are technically correct but only certain ones are more helpful, useful, or easily interpretable.
It's also about being able to work with a massively large data set in a reasonably efficient fashion. Technologies and code that work well for hundreds or thousands break down when you surpass 100 million. I speak from experience.
I worked for the 2010 census. I consider it just a make work project. The vast majority of my time was spent trying to find someone to tell me a particular address did not have anyone living in it on April 1, 2010. They were not computerized enough to have a list of all addresses and their owners. I would think that the census could get a list of the owners and their phone numbers even if it is a cell or an out of state number. That information would have greatly helped in accomplishing my job. I would think that I should have received at least a laptop computer. I would think that people should be able to enter their data on a computer of their choice but if they could not than xzI should have been able to let them use the one I was given. They could collect all sorts of information about people without knowing any information about a particular person. This would ensure the privacy of everyone and thus maybe they would not hesitate to answer them. I live in Michigan and we have a lot of people who only live here in the summer time. In fact my hometown more than doubles in population in the summer months but since they do not count a person as .4 for one state and .6 for another the state of Michigan gets nothing for those people since most of them do not come back to Michigan until the summer. This includes the migrant workers who pick our fruit. And as for representatives the present system is not fair anyway. The state of Wyoming does not have enough people for even one congressman so they get one congressman for about a half a million people but Michigan gets one per about every three quarters of a million people.
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