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Michigan Police Could Search Cell Phones During Traffic Stops

SonicSpike writes "The Michigan State Police have a high-tech mobile forensics device that can be used to extract information from cell phones belonging to motorists stopped for minor traffic violations. The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) of Michigan last Wednesday demanded that state officials stop stonewalling freedom of information requests for information on the program. A US Department of Justice test of the CelleBrite UFED used by Michigan police found the device could grab all of the photos and videos off of an iPhone within one-and-a-half minutes. The device works with 3000 different phone models and can even defeat password protections. 'Complete extraction of existing, hidden, and deleted phone data, including call history, text messages, contacts, images, and geotags,' a CelleBrite brochure explains regarding the device's capabilities." Popular Mechanics has a short conversation with a 4th Amendment lawyer about the practice of slurping cellphone data, too, though it's unclear if the Michigan police are actually using these devices to their full potential.

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  1. Police often violate 4th amendment rights.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    But, speaking from experience, you can claim illegal search and seizure at preliminary trials, which can result in the charges being dropped.

    It's disgusting that it happens, but it does. Just, rest assured, cops rarely get away with it if you have a decent lawyer.

    1. Re:Police often violate 4th amendment rights.. by Hatta · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Just, rest assured, cops rarely get away with it if you have a decent lawyer.

      It takes a damn good lawyer to get a cop tried for deprivation of rights under color of law. It ought to happen every time the exclusionary rule is applied.

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    2. Re:Police often violate 4th amendment rights.. by rhook · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Most people do not go after the officers for deprivation of civil rights under color of authority (USC 1983 violation), which leaves them with civil and criminal liability and also bars their unions and departments of the ability to pay their legal fees. If more people would file these lawsuits against officers who violate their rights the practice would end very quickly.

    3. Re:Police often violate 4th amendment rights.. by Entropius · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This.

      It's not good enough to just have the evidence be ruled inadmissible. The cop ought to be fired (or worse) and compensation paid to the victim.

    4. Re:Police often violate 4th amendment rights.. by causality · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Just, rest assured, cops rarely get away with it if you have a decent lawyer.

      It takes a damn good lawyer to get a cop tried for deprivation of rights under color of law. It ought to happen every time the exclusionary rule is applied.

      I know an easier way to make this happen. Convince the cell phone manufacturers and service providers that laws and practices like this are hurting phone sales by removing some of the utility of the phones and making them into a potential liability. Then we'd finally have large, powerful, monied, well-represented coporate interests lobbying in our favor. Suddenly this practice would end in record time.

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    5. Re:Police often violate 4th amendment rights.. by superwiz · · Score: 3, Funny

      at $150k per copyright violation, i doubt you'd have to look very long to find a lawyer to sue for violating your copyrights on the videos and images on your phone.

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    6. Re:Police often violate 4th amendment rights.. by dougmc · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But, speaking from experience, you can claim illegal search and seizure at preliminary trials, which can result in the charges being dropped..

      Only if it is an illegal search.

      If the cop asks "You don't mind if I check your phone, do you?" and you don't say "No, I do not consent to a search" (the cops often phrase it in an odd way to make it not clear if "Yes" or "No" is the correct answer, so answering in an um-ambiguous way is wise) and you actually let him search it (or your car, pockets, etc.) ... then it's not an illegal search.

      Not nearly enough people realize that when the cops ask that -- the proper answer is "No, I do not consent to a search". If you don't have anything to hide and you're SURE of that, then I guess you can let him search, but if there's any doubt -- absolutely not. It will *not* go easier on you.

  2. OUTRAGEOUS cost by fwice · · Score: 5, Informative

    ACLU learned that the police had acquired the cell phone scanning devices and in August 2008 filed an official request for records on the program, including logs of how the devices were used. The state police responded by saying they would provide the information only in return for a payment of $544,680.

    emphasis mine. ACLU put in a FOIA, police wanted $544,680 to respond.

    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? No one, when the pay-to-play is that high...

    1. Re:OUTRAGEOUS cost by Colonel+Korn · · Score: 5, Interesting

      My dad likes to file FOIA requests when the police in his home town (of 1 million people) do something illegal. They frequently quote absurd fees, after which he leaves and comes back with an officer of the court who makes them do it for free. He should have been a lawyer. Or maybe the world is better off with one fewer lawyer and one more electrical engineer.

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    2. Re:OUTRAGEOUS cost by causality · · Score: 5, Interesting

      My dad likes to file FOIA requests when the police in his home town (of 1 million people) do something illegal. They frequently quote absurd fees, after which he leaves and comes back with an officer of the court who makes them do it for free. He should have been a lawyer. Or maybe the world is better off with one fewer lawyer and one more electrical engineer.

      Seriously, cops seem to wonder why they're not better appreciated and respected. No sense of irony.

      As a whole, it's not like the police have a great deal of respect for citizens who exercise their rights. So I have to wonder: do they retaliate? Do they suddenly take a really hard look at his driving and see how many things they can charge him with that they'd normally let slide? Do they insist on searching him for guns/drugs/dead hookers/etc. every time he gets pulled over for i.e. speeding?

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    3. Re:OUTRAGEOUS cost by blincoln · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "As a whole, it's not like the police have a great deal of respect for citizens who exercise their rights. So I have to wonder: do they retaliate? Do they suddenly take a really hard look at his driving and see how many things they can charge him with that they'd normally let slide? Do they insist on searching him for guns/drugs/dead hookers/etc. every time he gets pulled over for i.e. speeding?"

      Probably.

      A friend of mine went to court to get out of a speeding ticket. I'm guessing it was a fairly high-priced ticket, because when he was successful, the police waited a year or more, then filed a completely made-up charge of "driving without a license" (he was in his late 30s, and had been a licensed driver for several decades). The charge/requirement to show up in court was mailed to him... at his old address, because he'd moved during the time in-between those two events.

      When he didn't show up in court (because he never received the thing that was mailed to his old address), he automatically lost, and an *additional* count of "flight to evade prosecution" was added. But he still didn't know about any of this. He found out when he was pulled over something like *another* year or two later for an illegal lane change in an intersection. At that point he was immediately taken into custody and sent to jail (because clearly he was a convicted felon with no respect for the law). He talked to a lawyer and was told that because judgment had already taken place (back when the original bogus charge made its uncontested court appearance), it would cost something like $30K to contest it. It was cheaper for him to spend three months in county jail.

      So yeah, the police don't exactly have any reservations about abusing the system if they feel that it's being done to punish someone they believe deserves it.

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    4. Re:OUTRAGEOUS cost by sys_mast · · Score: 5, Informative

      Guess i'm going to call you a liar.

      At least where I live to be called to court someone has to HAND deliver the letter to you. Most people filing a claim against someone they don't care for will pay a few bucks to have the sheriffs department deliver the notice.(I don't remember the price to have the cops deliver it for you but I thought it was very cheap. Doubly so if you don't like the person and have the deliver it to the persons work) But there isn't anything like sending a letter to an address you lived at at one point in your life and claiming you were notified.

      If that's the way the courts work where you live you need to get that changed, it's wrong.

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    5. Re:OUTRAGEOUS cost by Thing+1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I second the ridiculousness of our politicians. I was ("recently") served notice that I had to pay my car's excise tax (yes, this is a tax you pay annually, for the luxury of keeping your car in your possession).

      "Recently" is in scare quotes, because the notice was served similarly to Arthur Dent's house destruction notice: I found it while walking through the yard after the snow had cleared, it was an envelope under a bush. I thought, "Huh, someone's trash blew in, better pick it up" and then saw my name on the front. It was addressed to me, at my address, and in the place of the stamp said "hand deliver only" and it had two scotch tape pieces diagonally across the front, as if it had been taped to my front door.

      So much is wrong with this. They could have taped it inside the storm door, and it would not have blown off. They could have paid the going rate of $0.44 and it would have gotten to me without going through my bushes and the winter; instead they likely paid someone $8 to deliver this piece of extortion.

      The saving grace is that the bill is due in the future, so they weren't able to rake me over the coals in e.g. February for not getting the notice that they "hand-delivered" in December. Fucking morons.

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    6. Re:OUTRAGEOUS cost by arashi+no+garou · · Score: 3, Informative

      As a whole, it's not like the police have a great deal of respect for citizens who exercise their rights. So I have to wonder: do they retaliate? Do they suddenly take a really hard look at his driving and see how many things they can charge him with that they'd normally let slide?

      Take it from someone who works in law enforcement (not a cop, support staff): Yes, yes they do. And they brag about it to each other and to those of us who work behind the scenes. It's disgusting, and it's one of the things that forces me to weigh my conscience against the near-Utopian benefits package. If my part time job could even come close to the same level of benefits I'd leave law enforcement for good.

  3. Erase your phone by vrmlguy · · Score: 4, Informative

    According to http://support.apple.com/kb/ht2110, you want to own an iPhone 3GS or later.

    You can remove all settings and information from your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch using "Erase All Content and Settings" in Settings > General > Reset.

    When you opt to "Erase All Content and Settings," the process can take up to several hours. The time this process takes will vary by device:

    Devices that support hardware encryption: Erases user settings and information by removing the encryption key to the data. This process takes just a few minutes.
    Devices that overwrite memory: Overwrites user settings and information, writing a series of ones to the data partition. This process can take several hours, depending on the storage capacity of your iPhone or iPod touch. During this time, the device displays the Apple logo and a progress bar.

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    1. Re:Erase your phone by MikeBabcock · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You're not obstructing justice if you're not a suspect or a material witness ... IANAL.

      That question you see lawyers ask on TV all the time? You should ask it. "Am I being charged with something officer?"

      Of course, people are afraid of police abuse (for good reason) and just do what's asked of them anyway.

      IMHO the police should realize who they serve.

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  4. it's a trap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I am currently rigging a phone that has an unusually high power output on the incorrect USB contacts. I will keep it in my car. Is it my fault their little toy let the smoke out?

    1. Re:it's a trap by swb · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That was my first idea, too -- what happens when a 1500 mAh battery discharges into the data pins in 2 seconds? While smoking one of their multihousand dollar devices sounds like a good idea, I'm sure it would cause other problems..

      A better idea is a device that mimics the data protocol of the phone model it represents but instead outputs 1000 or more times of data, ideally canned data, like copies of the constitution, video of the Rodney King beating, etc

  5. Re:Wire? by Nethemas+the+Great · · Score: 4, Informative

    Oh, no they have a convenient carrying storage case. Since the summary didn't bother you may have a look see here for their wares.

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  6. Remember when... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Americans wouldn't put up with this Soviet crap?

  7. Won't work on mine... by ironjaw33 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Neither of the articles are clear about this, but from the picture, I assume that the "snooping" device actually has to be physically connected with the phone via USB. I hacked my Nexus One to enable USB host mode, which effectively disables client mode. Any connected device won't be able to mount my SD card or onboard storage.

  8. Freedom is a fickle thing by Adrian+Lopez · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Should this be allowed to stand, traffic stops will become a new tool for police to conduct what would in any other context be considered illegal suspicionless searches. It's bad enough they can do this at the border for reasons unrelated to airline security, but now they want to get away with it anywhere in the country.

    When citizens take freedom for granted it becomes way too easy for the government to take those freedoms away. It's also way too easy to forget the sacrifices of generations past and sit idly by as the government flushes people's freedom down the toilet.

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  9. Power that can be abused will be abused. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If more people would file these lawsuits against officers who violate their rights the practice would end very quickly.

    No, those "trouble makers" would be marked and "eliminated" as quickly as possible. Imagine the dispatcher decides to ... "accidentally" forget for a few minutes that you called for help when someone is invading your home, or the patrol car that has been dispatched decided to ... take the "scenic route" to your home while you're being robbed at gun point.

    No, I don't have any faith in the legal system, from police up to the supreme court.

    1. Re:Power that can be abused will be abused. by hldn · · Score: 3, Insightful

      they can take their sweet time if they want, the dead criminal isn't going anywhere.

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  10. Re:Those pesky Michigan people... by Tsiangkun · · Score: 3, Informative

    No, they are not citizens, they are now property of the State. They can hold elections and have their elected government dissolved. They do not have a functional vote.. They have no say in their government. They are taxed without representation. Michigan has serious issues, and their new martial law techniques raise serious questions.

  11. Re:And the simple solution is... by Hatta · · Score: 3, Informative

    All it takes is a K9 officer to fake a "tell" on your car, and they can search you. Cops lie about probable cause all the time.

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  12. Re:Encrypt it... by Sloppy · · Score: 3, Informative

    1201(e) exempts law enforcement.

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  13. Re:Just say by causality · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not good to give false information to a cop but you are not required to give information that might incriminate you either.

    You could say nothing or:

    "I do not consent to searches, am I free to do now?"

    or just:

    "am I free to go now".

    That "I do not consent to searches" is key. A lot of times the cops will phrase the question as "do you mind if we search your car?" If you say "no" they take that to mean "no, I don't mind" and if you say "yes" they take it to mean "yes you may search". Saying you do not consent to a search removes this ambiguity.

    It's some sad times we live in that such a concern would ever cross the minds of a regular citizen who is not a career criminal.

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  14. Re:Just say by GrifterCC · · Score: 3, Informative

    Even if you say nothing to the officer who stops you, you can be arrested for any driving infraction, even one that isn't a jailable offense, when you're in your vehicle.

    Once you're arrested, you can be searched sans warrant. Once you're arrested, your car can be impounded, and your entire vehicle can be "inventory" searched.

    Your car can also be searched sans warrant based on probable cause of any criminal activity, even if you aren't arrested.

    Better hope the courts decide your phone is more like a footlocker or a trunk, but good luck with that. The Supreme Court, over the course of about a dozen major Fourth Amendment decisions, has taken a dim view of your right to privacy while in your automobile.

    IAAL.

  15. Re:Just say by c6gunner · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's some sad times we live in that such a concern would ever cross the minds of a regular citizen who is not a career criminal.

    Right; because innocent people never got hung back in the good ol' days.

    What planet are you living on, anyway?

  16. Cognitive dissonance theory in action by Paul+Fernhout · · Score: 3, Informative

    Related book on why so many police officers take to planting evidence and forcing inaccurate confessions:
        "Mistakes Were Made (But Not by Me): Why We Justify Foolish Beliefs, Bad Decisions, and Hurtful Acts"
        http://www.amazon.com/Mistakes-Were-Made-But-Not/dp/0151010986
    "Why do people refuse to admit mistakes - so deeply that they transform their own brains? They're not kidding themselves: they really believe what they have to believe to justify their original thought.
        There are some pretty scary examples in this book. Psychologists who refuse to admit they'd bought into the false memory theories, causing enormous pain. Politicians. Authors. Doctors. Therapists. Alien abduction victims.
        Most terrifying: The justice system operates this way. Once someone is accused of a crime - even under the most bizarre circumstances - the police believe he's guilty of something. Even when the DNA shows someone is innocent, or new evidence reveals the true perpetrator, they hesitate to let the accused person go free. ,,,"

    And progressively that can lead police officers down a route of progressive desensitization where they start planting evidence on more and more people until they plant evidence on anyone they have any suspicions about...

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  17. Actully, any lawyer can sue for that by unassimilatible · · Score: 3, Funny

    42 USC 1983 authorizes suits for deprivation of civil rights. Johnnie Cochran made a fortune doing it. Of course, police have qualified immunity from suit, so you sue the city., i.e., taxpayers, for police misconduct.

    But you can't criminally prosecute police for every little misstep. Nobody would want to be a cop.

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  18. Re:yes, but do they archive that data? by mcgrew · · Score: 4, Funny

    Data is sexy.

    Tasha? Is that you?

  19. Re:No, most cities MUST pay legal fees by rhook · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Perhaps you should brush up on the law and understand the legal meaning of "shall be liable"? Qualified immunity does not apply when you knowingly violate someones civil rights, it is only a protection when there is "good faith", furthermore there should be no such thing as qualified immunity since it goes against the equal protection part of the 14th Amendment. You see, police are no different from regular citizens, and as such they should have no special protections under the law.

    http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/uscode/42/21/I/1983

    Every person who, under color of any statute, ordinance,
    regulation, custom, or usage, of any State or Territory or the
    District of Columbia, subjects, or causes to be subjected, any
    citizen of the United States or other person within the
    jurisdiction thereof to the deprivation of any rights, privileges,
    or immunities secured by the Constitution and laws, shall be liable
    to the party injured in an action at law, suit in equity, or other
    proper proceeding for redress, except that in any action brought
    against a judicial officer for an act or omission taken in such
    officer's judicial capacity, injunctive relief shall not be granted
    unless a declaratory decree was violated or declaratory relief was
    unavailable. For the purposes of this section, any Act of Congress
    applicable exclusively to the District of Columbia shall be
    considered to be a statute of the District of Columbia.

    That says that they are personally liable, not the department that they work for, and not their union. Officers effectively lose all legal protection from both their department and their union when they have a USC 1983 civil rights lawsuit filed against them (these cases only move forward when there is no qualified immunity). However, should the officer win, they can recover legal fees from the plaintiff. I know LA thinks they make the law but they do not, they've been smacked down several times for trying to play by their own rules.

  20. Re:Oh please! by Grishnakh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    1) These aren't "mistakes", they're blatant violation of Citizens' civil liberties. This is like calling the actions of the Nazi SS "simple mistakes".

    2) No, but I don't work for the government, nor do I carry a gun and get to shoot it at people who don't follow my orders. I'm a lowly employee of a private company, not someone in a position of authority within the government who has the right to take another person's life. If you're in a position of authority, then you have far more responsibility than anyone who isn't. If you can't handle that, then you should get another job.