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Bizarre Porn Raid Underscores Wi-Fi Privacy Risks

alphadogg writes "Lying on his family room floor with assault weapons trained on him, shouts of 'pedophile!' and 'pornographer!' stinging like his fresh cuts and bruises, the Buffalo homeowner didn't need long to figure out the reason for the early morning wake-up call from a swarm of federal agents. That new wireless router. He'd gotten fed up trying to set a password. Someone must have used his Internet connection, he thought. Sure enough, that was the case. Law enforcement officials say the case is a cautionary tale. Their advice: Password-protect your wireless router."

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  1. guilty eh? by rainmouse · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Guilty until proven innocent.

    1. Re:guilty eh? by bobdawonderweasel · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Indeed. This case has far more to do with the actions of police state than a criminal investigation. When will these morons in law enforcement learn: IP Address != Identity.

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    2. Re:guilty eh? by PingSpike · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's not true. He'll probably still be assumed to be guilty by a large percentage of people even after he is proven innocent.

    3. Re:guilty eh? by DanTheStone · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I saw this story first on Yahoo! News and, surprisingly, the comments seemed to understand this. The highly-rated comments all said this is insane, that it's not the guy's fault for not securing his wireless network, it's the police being crazy. I was somewhat proud of my fellow countrymen for seeing through the attempted spin.

      The horrible thing, to me, is that they're trying to use it to push securing your home internet. Breaking home wireless encryption isn't that hard, and it would have made it far more difficult for him to prove his own innocence. It's a bit of a double-edged sword.

    4. Re:guilty eh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You can sue. Are you likely to get anything? Of course not, because our government isn't held accountable for anything.

    5. Re:guilty eh? by kenshin33 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      IP != identity but it's a start. The person becomes a suspect and the investigation continues ...

    6. Re:guilty eh? by bhagwad · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But arrested in what manner? Was he a threat? Why were guns trained on him? Was he resisting? What was the need to call him names and abuse him?

      Wtf.

    7. Re:guilty eh? by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Was it enough to justify sending a paramilitary unit into his home in the early morning? This guy was suspected of trafficking in child pornography, not smuggling machine guns. I doubt that the police would have even needed to use a handgun to arrest this guy if he had been guilty.

      The problem here is not that he received a visit from the police, but rather the manner in which that visit had been carried out.

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    8. Re:guilty eh? by LWATCDR · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That story was confirmation for you? Some guy posting on slashdot?
      Here is documented proof that it has been that way for a long time.
      http://www.popsci.com/military-aviation-amp-space/article/2009-07/new-york-times-nasa-youre-right-rockets-do-work-space

      The background story is that New York time wrote an editorial in 1920 lambasting a Professor named Robert Goddard for writing an scientific paper where he had the nerve to suggest that humans could someday use one of the liquid fueled rockets he was working on to send a machine to the moon. Well at least he didn't suggest that a person could go. I mean that would have been just insane. Robert Goddard had what little support he had dry up and was publicly humiliated so he worked in secret out in New Mexico. One does wonder what he might have done if the Times had supported is bold idea?
      Did the Time bother to write a retraction when V2s where falling on London? No.
      Did they write a retraction before Robert Goddard's death? No.
      Did they even bother to write a retraction when Sputnik was launched? No.
      They waited until man walked on the Moon.
      Reporters are indoctrinated that they are the protectors of our freedom and that it is there job to explain things to us. Too bad they are not taught to just gather and report facts so that we can figure out what they mean for ourselves.

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    9. Re:guilty eh? by snsh · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm sure the cops shouted 'pornographer!' and 'pedophile!' at the suspect out of self defense. After you call someone a pedophile, they cannot possibly hurt you, according to the Pedophile Code of Honor.

    10. Re:guilty eh? by Johnny+Mnemonic · · Score: 5, Insightful


      with kinetic resistance

      You're a moron, and your cute euphemism doesn't hide that. More "kinetic resistance" is only going to justify and encourage this kind of response from the police, and not dissuade it.

      Call me a bleeding liberal if you will, but the police are more afraid of lawsuits than they are of armed individual resistance. The latter they have training and material to deal with. The former they don't, and civil penalties deprive them of resources to continue criminal acts with.

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    11. Re:guilty eh? by bware · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'd like to go home at the end of my day too, and unlike a cop, I'm not getting paid to take risks in trade for getting to carry a gun, and didn't take an oath to protect and serve. Cops are, and did.

      If you'd rather kill a citizen by mistake to avoid all risks, maybe you shouldn't be a cop.

      48 in a year? From shootings? Or does that number include car wrecks, etc? I suspect that working at a convenience store, on a farm, as a garbageman, miner, or cabbie is more dangerous than being a cop. But they don't get to shoot other people or call them pedophiles.

    12. Re:guilty eh? by Slashdot+Parent · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Do you know how many cops are killed every year? 48 was in 2009 over 3/4 of them at traffic stops.(speeding suspected drunk driving, etc)

      There are 800,000 law enforcement officers in the US, so we're talking about 0.006% here. Assuming the officer has a 10 mi. commute, he has a greater chance of getting killed on the way into the office or "home to their spouse's[sic] at the end of their shift" (0.007%).

      Yawn.

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    13. Re:guilty eh? by wordsnyc · · Score: 4, Insightful

      WTF do they need assault rifles to arrest a suspect paedophile; why do they fail to consider the chance the person who did the downloading may not be in the house?

      They need the whole SWAT routine because they know there's no real threat. Believe me, if they thought the guy inside was armed, they'd set up a perimeter and start lobbing tear gas in there. It's all theater. Good for the local TV and it's like dog treats to the cops themselves -- they get to play Rambo in a safe sandbox.

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    14. Re:guilty eh? by canadian_right · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Anyone who keeps a loaded assault weapon in their home outside of a weapons safe, with the ammo locked in a separate safe is an dangerous idiot.

      Anyone who things opening fire on people who identify themselves as the police is great way to "defend" their home is a dangerous idiot. Opening fire with a weapon that will easily penetrate the walls of your neighbors home is doubly stupid.

      Anyone who thinks they need a firearm to "defend their home" living in a modern western country is a dangerous idiot.

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  2. Search Warrant? by wsxyz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So maybe... just maybe, this is a clue that it's not quite right to break down people's doors because of an ip address?

    1. Re:Search Warrant? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What? Dude, no. Cops are NEVER in the wrong. If a mistake was made, it's obviously on the part of the WiFi router owner.

      Really, I'm surprised that the cops haven't charged him with wasting police resources-- those SWAT raids aren't cheap...

    2. Re:Search Warrant? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Even if he was guilty, there wasn't a good reason to attack him with a military unit of the police because his proclivities are abhorrent. Why couldn't regular cops handle the warrant? He wasn't accused of buying machine guns after all.

    3. Re:Search Warrant? by rbollinger · · Score: 5, Insightful

      First Point: ICE raided the house not the police.

      Second Point: ICE needs to have a federally issued warrant in order to raid a house.

      Honestly it is the Judges that need the wake-up call. Too many just don't understand the intricacies of technology and internet crime. A Judge would have been shown how ICE had tracked the IP back to a specific person, and he should have known that that IP address doesn't necessarily identify that person as the perpetrator, and denied the warrant. Furthermore, he should realize that by authorizing a raid like that he reduced the chance of actually catching the real criminal. If the neighbor wasn't such a bone-head, he would have realized what was going on, and fled after he saw the raid on his neighbor's apartment. Instead he probably though he had successfully pinned the blame on someone else.

  3. But I want to share by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If someone is sitting outside my house, where there is no mobile phone service, and they really desperately need to make a quick Skype call or check their e-mail, it is a neighbourly thing to do to let them use my wifi, just as if their car broke down, it would be a nice thing to offer them a glass of water and a quick phone call to their car breakdown company.

    Child pornography trading was not a strict liability offence last time I checked. You have to show some intent, damnit. And until that happens, I'm going to say fuck you to fear and be a good neighbour.

    1. Re:But I want to share by spikenerd · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Then let them knock on your door and ask you for the WEP key...

      No. Who are you to tell me how to do it? If this is a free nation, I'll do it however I want. If I want to shine their shoes as they use my Internet connection, I'll do that too. It's none of your business how I choose to do it.

    2. Re:But I want to share by AntiNazi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If you are using WEP, they won't need to ask for the key. WEP probably makes your situation worse. "Sir, you have a secure wifi network, how could anyone be responsible except for you?"

  4. So rather than by Stargoat · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So rather than two Federal Marshalls in ties having a discussion with the gentleman, the Feds come in Police State style, tossing American citizens around like ragdolls and trampling the Constitution and the natural rights of man.

    What is wrong with this country?

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    1. Re:So rather than by characterZer0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What is wrong with this country?

      The voters, even if they remember the incident come November, will still vote for the same politicians they have been voting for their whole lives.

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    2. Re:So rather than by EvanED · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You can't blame the voters for the two-party system; such a system naturally falls out of our election method: non-proportional, one-vote, winner-takes-all. If you want more than two viable parties, that's where you should be looking.

  5. Wrong Damn Point by dcollins · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Law enforcement officials say the case is a cautionary tale."

    The summary is a perfectly accurate representation of how the police/statist spokespeople are spinning this, and of course the mass media just regurgitates it verbatim. But that is totally the wrong point to take from this. It's a cautionary tale, all right -- of the horrifying real-life consequences of our brain-addled priorities towards pornography. And the result is they'll want to make it illegal to share our Internet and information access with fellow citizens. Pretty outrageous.

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  6. Guest Wi-Fi by tepples · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...to set up a password?

    If you run a business that offers WLAN Internet service to its guests, how do you reliably communicate the password to legitimate guests without also communicating it to those who deal in child pornography and unlicensed controlled substances?

    1. Re:Guest Wi-Fi by Overzeetop · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm curious: If I sing a note, can you sing a perfect fifth in just tuning to it, and create an overtone? I didn't think so. It's actually very, very easy to do, and I can teach nearly anybody who can sing along in church or with the radio in about half an hour. It's all about perspective. I'm not even a professional musician - in fact, not even close.

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  7. This is a cautionary tale... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... but it's the police who need to learn.

    Maybe we don't need to send SWAT teams in to arrest people unless there is specific evidence that the person being arrested is armed and violent?

    Maybe what passes for "probable cause" is a joke these days?

  8. cautionary tale indeed by spikenerd · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Law enforcement officials say the case is a cautionary tale

    Indeed, this should be a cautionary tale: obtain better evidence before you make an arrest. Surely there is some kind of penalty in our well-designed system for such sloppiness on the part of law-enforcement. Surely our freedoms have built-in protections. Surely we do not need to respond to attempts by law-enforcement to try to scare us into using encryption if we don't want to ...right?

  9. Re:Duh by heptapod · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just because it's easy for you, Mr. "I Compiled^W Gent^H^H^H^H Installed Ubuntu Last Weekend", doesn't mean that you represent the mean computer intelligence of your peers.

    Big surprise, son! Not everyone has the patience for tech regardless of its ease of use.

  10. How ridiculous. by ErikZ · · Score: 3, Insightful

    My advice would be "No one password protect your router"

    Then all your concerns about the federal government snooping in on your internet traffic become moot.

    Having everyone password protect their router gives the state more power over you.

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  11. Re:Duh by MoonBuggy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm more bothered about the fact that a screenshot and an IP address is enough to warrant (no pun intended) an armed unit (from Immigration and Customs, for some reason) smashing the door down and throwing the guy down the stairs. When the evidence is that slim, I'd suggest maybe turning up in the daytime and knocking on the door with a warrant to search/confiscate the computers would be a more measured response.

  12. Remember... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Remember when SWAT teams were only used on violent offenders in situations that were expected to get excessively violent?

    Unfortunately, I don't, I was only born in the 80s. I know SWAT teams as being used for everyday arrests and serving warrants, most often by busting down doors of family homes in the dark and shooting people's pets (like the DC area mayor who's dog was shot in the back as it ran away from police during a raid for a crime police had strong evidence he didn't commit but set him up for anyway). No police force needs APCs. Nor should the first line of investigation involve Afghanistan-style street warfare. And where's the police force policing these out of control police forces?

  13. Fucking pigs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Wake up and realize the cops have militarized against normal citizens.

    Celebrities and politicians, under the same charges, are given the opportunity to peacefully turn themselves in.

    Normal civilian? Full on SWAT raid

    Fuck cops, fuck their families, fuck their friends.. The position these days is only held by the most reprehensible human beings we have to offer.

  14. Re:Land of the free... by arth1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    .... and use assault weapons to arrest someone you have no reason to believe is armed and dangerous.

    The police has become a domestic military force.

  15. Very Lucky The Man is Not Suing by MarkvW · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The Feds could readily determine that the router was unsecured. That means that anybody within a certain radius of the computer could have downloaded the picture.

    Probable cause means facts and circumstances that would cause a person of reasonable prudence to believe that the computer in the house that was searched was used to download criminal material or used to store criminal material.

    The router is evidence of a crime. It is the device used to get the criminal material. The feds had a legit reason for the search and seizure of the router.

    The problem that I have is that the ICE agents behaved like pigs--complete pigs--with respect to the man whose home they invaded. They had facts sufficient to know that they had no probable cause to believe that the man they threw on the ground had done anything wrong. They were under no threat, yet they assaulted him for no good reason.

  16. MAC addresses are easy to spoof by ODBOL · · Score: 3, Insightful

    MAC addresses are easy to spoof.

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  17. Might as well be open by SoTerrified · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have lived in my neighborhood for several years. Within my home detection range, I have access to nearly a dozen wireless hotspots. A few are open. A few use WEP. Two use WPA. A few use WPA2. In the course of my experimenting with wireless security and man in the middle attacks, I have gained access to all of them. The hardest one to crack forced me to set up a dedicated laptop for a week. Now, I'm just a computer guy with an interest in security. I tried just to see what could be done and to gain a better understanding. But the tools I used and the knowledge I have are available to virtually anyone. I'm far from some 'super-hacker'. My point is that if I were a pornographer, none of these would be secure enough to stop me. And yet the police are trying to spin this that somehow the homeowner who was wrongfully arrested was at fault for some security lack on his part. Ridiculous. It's obvious that the police didn't have enough information to justify the raid, and they are just covering that up. Can you imagine the police doing a major raid on your house, doing property damage, seizing your assets, etc. then being told "Hey, you have the same initials as the guy we're really after. We really didn't know enough to figure out if it was you or not, but we figured what the heck, we'd raid you anyway."

  18. Re:Land of the free... by DigiShaman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And yet these pussies won't go after the REAL threats. Trying going after MS 13 you cowards!

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  19. Re:Land of the free... by biek · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Anyone with any sense agrees that a raid with a warning wouldn't be useful. The point is that there should not have been a raid in the first place. Send a couple officers out with a warrant and have them bring the guy in. Life is not an action movie, and wearing a badge does not change that.

  20. Is having child porn really that bad? by Dr.+Spork · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The whole point of child porn laws is to prevent children from being sexually exploited. I'm 100% behind that. But all those pictures and videos that the police take down were taken a long time ago. You don't protect any children by keeping that stuff off the internet. If anything, by taking down the old stuff, you encourage perverts to make new stuff - to hurt more children.

    A more enlightened country would release all the child porn they have ever seized to registered perverts. So if you're willing to register as a pedophile, you can get access to the government's entire stash (maybe not all at once, but gradually). Registration would require a fee and mandatory counseling, and all materials would be watermarked specifically for you so that you wouldn't share them. But if you abided by all this, could do your pedophilia legally. I have a feeling that this would satiate the porn needs of most pedophiles.

    The police could then focus on the real source of harm: The people who take sexual advantage of children. The whole point of the scheme would be to destroy the demand for more child victims. If law enforcement worked with the pedophiles a little, I'm sure that the people who are victimizing children now would also be easier to catch. There might be special rewards for snitches whose tips lead to arrest.

    I think that with the sheer grossness of the crime of pedophilia, we lose track of what would be the most effective way of dealing with it. Kicking down doors and throwing innocent people down their own stairways is not it.