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The iPad's Progenitor — 123 Years Ago

scurtis writes "All technology evolves from cruder predecessors, and tablets are no different. People have been playing with some of the technologies underlying tablet PCs for over a century: In July 1888, for example, inventor Elisha Gray received a US patent for an electrical stylus device that captured handwriting. According to his original application, this 'telautograph' leveraged telegraph technology to send a handwritten message between a sending and receiving station."

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  1. Lawsuit! by DWMorse · · Score: 2

    I smell a lawsuit. Moses had the first tablets, right? I'm sure he at least copyrighted the term "tablet". Pay up.

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    1. Re:Lawsuit! by Freaky+Spook · · Score: 2

      Till the Ark of the Covenant turns up that prior art can't be proven.

    2. Re:Lawsuit! by nitehawk214 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Till the Ark of the Covenant turns up that prior art can't be proven.

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    3. Re:Lawsuit! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Pretty sure "looking into it" is what got all those people's faces melted off.

    4. Re:Lawsuit! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yes, he was at least a Psalm.

      Psalm Pilot.

    5. Re:Lawsuit! by davester666 · · Score: 2

      No.

      Apple had to go with having a single button on the front because those 'original' tablets had zero. Once the patent expires, then no more button!

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  2. iPad has nothing to do with handwriting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What BS. An ancient handwriting recorder has as much to do with the iPad as does pencil and paper.

    1. Re:iPad has nothing to do with handwriting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Personally I find this offensive. The article says it is so simple that a grandmother can use it. I am a 49 yo feminist grandmother and C programmer. I think I could use something more complex.

    2. Re:iPad has nothing to do with handwriting by Goose+In+Orbit · · Score: 2

      Never stopped a patent troll...

    3. Re:iPad has nothing to do with handwriting by nomadic · · Score: 2

      Eh? Having a kid at 24 and a half, and then having that kid have a kid at 24 and a half isn't really that outrageous.

    4. Re:iPad has nothing to do with handwriting by webmistressrachel · · Score: 2

      This would be legal (in the UK) but outrageous. Don't get me started on the failings of the welfare state, please...

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    5. Re:iPad has nothing to do with handwriting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This would be legal (in the UK) but outrageous. Don't get me started on the failings of the welfare state, please...

      It's legal in the U.S. too and not really outrageous. Maybe frowned upon, maybe. Two 16 year olds can make a baby. I would speculate that it is more normal world wide and historically than abnormal. I know of no other animal that waits so long after hitting reproductive age to actually reproduce.

      To be sure, for humans, waiting can be beneficial. The ability to pursue education being the main one. I'm not so sure there is a 'failing of the welfare state' more than diminishing of family structure. Industrialization brings many things to a society that weaken the dependence and therefore strength of family.

      The automobile has scattered families. Moving off of farms has cut our rate of offspring at least in half. Independence from each other has made it much easier to divorce. The ability to be financially independent seems to be a factor in the divorce rate as divorce rates usually decline in economic slumps.

      House insurance means you don't have to depend on your neighbors to help you rebuild. The modern world gives us independence. Unfortunately that brings problems when what family structure remains consists of a dozen or less people. When someone honestly needs help it can strain that small circle. I'm not sure how to address the underlying problems/freedoms that industrialization has given us.

    6. Re:iPad has nothing to do with handwriting by Hylandr · · Score: 2

      This would be legal (in the UK) but outrageous. Don't get me started on the failings of the welfare state, please...

      It's legal in the U.S. too and not really outrageous. Maybe frowned upon, maybe. Two 16 year olds can make a baby. I would speculate that it is more normal world wide and historically than abnormal. I know of no other animal that waits so long after hitting reproductive age to actually reproduce.

      To be sure, for humans, waiting can be beneficial. The ability to pursue education being the main one. I'm not so sure there is a 'failing of the welfare state' more than diminishing of family structure. Industrialization brings many things to a society that weaken the dependence and therefore strength of family.

      The automobile has scattered families. Moving off of farms has cut our rate of offspring at least in half. Independence from each other has made it much easier to divorce. The ability to be financially independent seems to be a factor in the divorce rate as divorce rates usually decline in economic slumps.

      House insurance means you don't have to depend on your neighbors to help you rebuild. The modern world gives us independence. Unfortunately that brings problems when what family structure remains consists of a dozen or less people. When someone honestly needs help it can strain that small circle. I'm not sure how to address the underlying problems/freedoms that industrialization has given us.

      If civilization were to collapse, human reproduction will return to it's natural state. Any natural human condition should therefore not be considered an abnormality in a civilized society. That we as a race would look down on each other for applying ourselves to the primary purpose of our existence suggests that this society should not replenish itself. Society, through occasional welfare, is ensuring the continuation of our societies through the rigors of an industrialized nations in flux.

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  3. We used something similar at work... by pongo000 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...in the mid-80's, we used a similar device to send weather observations from the air traffic control tower I worked at (FYV) to the flight service station across the field. It would literally duplicate every stroke you made on the other end. IIRC, we called it the "electrowriter."

    A few years later, they replaced it with a rebadged TI-99A that was "state of the art" for the FAA (and probably cost them thousands of dollars) where we could magically type in our ATIS report, and have them appear at the other end on a little amber monitor with attached thermal printer. High times those were!

    1. Re:We used something similar at work... by pongo000 · · Score: 4, Informative

      And I'll be damned if this isn't the very device!

  4. Isn't this more like a FAX? by Fallen+Kell · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I mean, seriously, this is more like a FAX technology than a tablet PC if you ask me.

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    1. Re:Isn't this more like a FAX? by rubycodez · · Score: 4, Informative

      Except the fax was invented even earlier, 1843 by Scottish physicist Alexander Bain. It had a light-sensitive element on pendulum for sending on telegraph line, and printer for receiving.

    2. Re:Isn't this more like a FAX? by jessehager · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Well, Telautograph (the company that made these) was bought out by OMNIFax (which later became part of Danka). I used to fix these machines. And they were in use at least to the mid 1990's. Hospitals used them to send prescriptions from the ER to the pharmacy. This allowed a doctor to write out a prescription and have it simultaneously written out in the pharmacy in their own handwriting. The machines were pure analog and were a pain to adjust and maintain. A pair of rheostats encoded the pen position and a switch sensed when it was pressed to the paper. The signal was encoded and sent to the receiver where a pair of servo solenoids replicated the movement of the pen.

  5. Re:Other Progenetors....the Go Computer by rubycodez · · Score: 2

    the GRiDPad by GRiD Systems Corporation beats that, introduced in 1989. it ran MS-DOS.

  6. Really? by guspasho · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Am I the only one annoyed that it's obvious from the summary that this device is nothing even remotely like an iPad? How is this even news?

  7. Seems more like the Newton's Progenitor by spagthorpe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The iPad doesn't do anything with handwriting.

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  8. I Thought... by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 3, Funny

    I thought that the iPad's progenitor was the Etch A Sketch.

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  9. Re:"iPad progenitor"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Heh. I had the opposite reaction: it's annoying when the modern ego gets so huge that big chunks of history have to be recast as before-their-time flops that all lead up to [our new product, the best thing ever, GO BUY IT].

  10. That's a bad example... by Kupfernigk · · Score: 2

    Wasn't it the Incas and the Maya who never developed the wheel? It is not an obvious invention, especially as it is useless on its own - you need roads or rails to use it efficiently. "cavemen" didn't invent the wheel - the Stonehenge builders are believed to have used round stones or logs to move the large stones, and they had quite an advanced Bronze Age society. There is a case that the inventor of the actual wheel - with a hub and axle - (and there must actually have been a first one) should have partial credit for modern civilisation. But it was Roman roads that made the wheel so useful. Here in the UK, up until the advent of railways, once you were off what was mainly the Roman road network wheels were of limited use, and water was a far more effective means of transport. The "Great Trek" and the Westward invasion of the US was done at under 2mph.

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