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The Importance of Lunch

theodp writes "I've been on teams that eat together every day,' writes Joel-on-Software Spolsky, 'and it's awesome. I've been on teams that don't, and lunch every day is, at best, lonely.' Spolsky is firmly in the camp that believes where and with whom we eat lunch is a much bigger deal than most people care to admit. 'There's a lot of stuff that's accidental about Fog Creek and Stack Exchange,' he concludes, 'but lunch is not one of them. Ten years ago Michael and I set out with the rather ambitious goal of making a great place to work. Eating together is a critical part of what it means to be human and what it means to have a humane workplace, and that's been a part of our values from day one.'"

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  1. Lunchbreaks by tripleevenfall · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Personally... I'd rather spend that hour working and leave an hour earlier.

    Generally I'm at work to make money and not to make friends. I know every company does the rah-rah, we're awesome, "team-building", let's all be friends so we work better together. But I'd rather just be professional, get my work done, and spend my free time how I see fit.

    1. Re:Lunchbreaks by winkydink · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You make it sound like your work is a reality tv show ("I'm not here to make friends, I'm here to win.")

      If you don't think good personal relationships will make for a better team, then I'm glad you don't work with me.

      --

      "I'd rather be a lightning rod than a seismometer." -Ken Kesey

    2. Re:Lunchbreaks by tripleevenfall · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You can maintain good relationships with coworkers without having to go to happy hours and play lazer tag and drive go-karts with them.

      And, without being forced to basically make lunch into a meeting.

    3. Re:Lunchbreaks by negRo_slim · · Score: 5, Insightful

      but what lunch time I do take, I like to have it quietly alone away from work and coworkers.

      Same here I've always enjoyed the solitude of a snack and a paper for my lunches, it never ceases to infuriate me when you become obligated to take part in company lunches/doughnut parties/etc, etc. I've had jobs seriously impacted by my lack of a desire to attend christmas parties or company birthday parties for people I don't even know.

      It's funny how you can be expected to put forth all this excitement, commitment and seeming loyalty towards companies that would just as soon lay you off if it was amiable for them.

      --
      On the Oregon Cost born and raised, On the beach is where I spent most of my days
    4. Re:Lunchbreaks by Dr.Bob,DC · · Score: 5, Funny

      You really should eat a lunch. Not for the social networking as the article states, but for your health.

      Take some time, eat an organic banana and unsalted, organic almonds. Perhaps some curried tofu made from organic, non-GMO soybeans. There has been a few articles in the Journal of Chiropractic Medicine in which Chiropractors have found that patients who routinely skip lunch have many more (and more serious) subluxations which cause poor health.

      Subluxations are, to be blunt, where all a person's ill health will start. Eliminate those and enjoy good health!

      Take care!

      --
      Chiropractic Saves Lives!
  2. Old hat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've known this for ages. This is why, at the beginning of each day, I make any employees who felt the need to brown-bag it toss their lunch in The Trough. Once in the trough it's blended in with a caffeinated protein slurry.

    Now, we can't have the workers getting all uppity because I allow them to eat, so this trough is installed roughly level with the floor, so they have to bow at my feet while they nourish themselves.

    It's a wonderful place for me to work.

    Regards,
    Mark Z.

  3. Extrovert by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Again with people forcing extrovert-ism on the world. Why can't people *in general* be accepting of introverts who like to, and gain their energy from, being alone? I find it is an excellent time to put my thoughts together and come up with new ideas while away from my desk.

  4. The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to Tech Startups by Tackhead · · Score: 5, Funny
    The history of every major tech startup tends to pass through three distinct and recognizable phases, those of Survival, Inquiry and Sophistication, otherwise known as the How, Why and Where phases.

    For instance, the first phase is characterized by the question "How can we make payroll?", the second by the question "Why do we need VC?", and the third by the question "Where shall we have lunch?"

    It should be the goal of every startup company to reach the third stage.

  5. Spoken like a true extrovert by jayhawk88 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "I’ve been on teams that eat together every day, and it’s awesome."
    "...but you’ll also see a distressing number of loners eating by themselves..."
    " Maybe they’re reading a book or checking their email while they eat so they don’t look sad."
    "Maybe they genuinely don’t like people and they’re happy to eat alone. Or maybe they’re just telling you that."

    This is something I see a lot in workplaces: Extroverted people just not understanding the mind of introverted people. Honestly I'm surprised a person with experience in the tech field (I assume) is falling into this trap.

    Not everyone enjoys being around and talking to other people all day long. Maybe it's because they're shy, maybe it's because they don't like their co-workers, maybe it's because they have some kind of disorder, or maybe it's just their natural personality. I gotta be honest, there's no way I'd last at that place, because if my boss/coworkers were on my case every day to come eat with them, I'd be miserable. It's fine if the group wants to go out/gather once in a while, but not every day. Most days I just want to go have an hour where I can be left to myself and not have to talk to anyone else. Wonder how many otherwise good employees he's run off with this policy?

  6. Is lunch hour paid time? by PvtVoid · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is lunch with the team counted as on the clock? If not, the boss has no right to tell anybody with whom they should or should not eat.

    1. Re:Is lunch hour paid time? by IICV · · Score: 5, Informative

      At Fog Creek (Joel's company), I believe they have catered lunches every day. He's not the sort of manager who orders people to have lunch together, he's the sort of manager who provides lunch for everyone who wants it in order to encourage people to have lunch together.

      It's very much a matter of carrots and sticks, which the Slashdot summary doesn't clarify at all.

  7. Re:Who's this guy? by wpi97 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Ad hominem much? If you would rather hear from all these other people, you should write them an email. Nobody is forcing you to read Joel's articles, let alone to agree with them. By the way, Joel also runs stackoverflow.com, which is huge.