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Spotify Challenges iTunes With iPod Support, Playlist Synching

Stoobalou writes with this excerpt from thinq.co.uk: "Spotify has made a surprise announcement, and while it's still not the long-awaited US launch, it will be making a splash over the pond: the streaming music service is morphing into an iTunes competitor. In what is a clear attempt at rattling Apple's cage, Spotify has unveiled a pair of major new features: the ability to synchronise Spotify playlists with iPods, and the option to buy MP3 files to own — both key features of the iTunes platform. Any playlist created via the Spotify player can be downloaded in a single step, making 'digital mix-tape' creation significantly simpler."

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  1. Firmware patch coming... by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 2

    in 3...2...1...

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    1. Re:Firmware patch coming... by leamanc · · Score: 4, Informative

      Ummm, no. What Apple stops is non-iPod devices showing themselves as iPods to iTunes. They do not stop iPods from syncing with 3rd party apps. There are a metric shit-ton of Linux apps that can sync individual MP3s or playlists to iTunes and Apple cannot give a shit.

      Remember, iTunes and its music store exist to sell iPods. If you've already bought that iPod, then great. Just don't make your device pretend to be an iPod, like Palm did with the Pre.

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  2. Being able to purchase MP3s is nothing new by Mascot · · Score: 3, Informative

    Being able to buy an entire playlist, instead of one tune at a time, is though. Just to clarify.

    1. Re:Being able to purchase MP3s is nothing new by sglewis100 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Being able to buy an entire playlist, instead of one tune at a time, is though. Just to clarify.

      You've been able to publish playlists on iTunes for years, and each one can be purchased in it's entirety with a single button click. In addition to people's playlists, iTunes also publishes "Celebrity Playlists" from famous people.

    2. Re:Being able to purchase MP3s is nothing new by Mascot · · Score: 2

      This is a thread pertaining to new functionality in Spotify. Do I really need to spell out that I am talking about functionality in Spotify when correcting the article's listing of old Spotify functionality as new Spotify functionality?

      I guess so. Let me rephrase then.

      Being able to purchase MP3s IN SPOTIFY is nothing new. Being able to buy an entire playlist IN SPOTIFY, instead of one tune at a time IN SPOTIFY, is though. Just to clarify. In Spotify.

  3. Re:Changeup by mwvdlee · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Apple is not for people who want free, customized, private or self-made software, media or data.
    iOS has shown the path to profit, and I fear Apple may start "securing" OS-X soon.

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  4. Re:Good by ThosLives · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Competition = Good. It gives us customers a better chance to finally get what we want!

    Deliberate somewhat off-topic de-rail:

    Not all competition is beneficial. In fact, in the general case, competition generally means that the stronger or more cunning party succeeds, not the better party. For instance: I do not want to have to compete with other people for my food.

    A better phrase is probably "Coexisting Diversity = Good." Take Coke and Pepsi (or a car analogy: GM and Toyota): it is better for society to have both of these than to have just one, because people who prefer the taste of either product are satisfied. If one company "wins the competition" and puts the other out of business, then the people who preferred the "loser" suffer real loss. Also, resources spent competing are probably always better spent cooperating instead.

    So for all the people wanting [platform X] to win: be careful for what you wish.

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  5. Competitor to iTunes? Not with their catalog... by Ardeaem · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I am a Spotify premium customer, because it gives me access to lots of streaming music on my iPod. However, they are not an iTunes competitor. Their catalog is no where near iTunes in comprehensiveness. For many somewhat popular songs (try, for instance, finding the original "MacArthur park" the only results you get are a zillion bad karaoke albums, or covers. They have lots of random crap though. They are not really a competitor to iTunes, but rather a complement to it.

    1. Re:Competitor to iTunes? Not with their catalog... by Lord_of_the_nerf · · Score: 2

      However, they are not an iTunes competitor. Their catalog is no where near iTunes in comprehensiveness. For many somewhat popular songs (try, for instance, finding the original "MacArthur park" the only results you get are a zillion bad karaoke albums, or covers. They have lots of random crap though. They are not really a competitor to iTunes, but rather a complement to it.

      They're just stealing Apple's genius marketing strategy for the iMac. An inferior product with less choice at a higher price.

      The hipsters will be all over it in and acting like it's awesome in days!

  6. Re:major "new" features? by Stewie241 · · Score: 2

    iPods (and apparently all Apple devices) munge filenames on the devices so that you are forced to install a music management application like iTunes. Apple chose not to follow the standard that every other device manufacturer was using and went their own proprietary route.

  7. Re:major "new" features? by MBGMorden · · Score: 4, Informative

    Aren't those features of, well, pretty much any online music store at all, such as Amazon?

    With Amazon I can buy mp3s, and syncing mp3s to my player is not a function of the damn store I bought it from! Drag and drop through USB mass storage has been around forever - I was doing that on my old IRiver player back ages ago.

    I don't understand stories like this. Mp3s can be bought in a million and four ways, and syncing them to my own devices (although I don't own an iPod) has been possible for as long as there have been mp3s at all. What's the big deal here? If something today couldn't do that, it means it was behind basic functionality of the early 1990s.

    Note to most Slashdotters - almost every time you stamp your feet declaring something unnewsworthy, you're usually missing something.

    The key point here is that it syncs with iPods. Not "MP3 Players", not to a USB Mass Storage Device, but to an actual honest to goodness iPod. Amazon doesn't do that, specifically because iPods use a proprietary sync routine and can't be synced like most other players.

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  8. Re:A new lawsuit by AndrewNeo · · Score: 2

    Sued for what? When did Apple sue AOL for Winamp's iPod sync support?

  9. Re:A new lawsuit by hedwards · · Score: 2, Funny

    Don't worry, they were able to sue Samsung over a rectangle with rounded corners, I'm sure they'll devise something to get rid of the pesky competitor.

  10. Re:A new lawsuit by GameboyRMH · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah they won't sue. They'll just make the next generation of devices harder to interface with. This is what they've done in the past to block 3rd-party iTunes alternatives.

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  11. Re:Changeup by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2

    This. If you care about software freedom you shouldn't buy from Apple. You're destroying your hobby and your job prospects. It's like a gearhead buying a Maybach.

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  12. Re:A new lawsuit by CrackedButter · · Score: 2

    I can't believe people simplify the issue to this extent (but reveals their bias). Even respectable sources for news have done it (FOTO8) and yet Nilay Patel has explained it in great detail: http://www.macgasm.net/2011/04/19/recommended-read-nilay-patel-apple-samsung-lawsuit/.

  13. Re:Not Hard to Challenge iTunes by Americano · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Itunes' (and other softwares') "organising media crap" amounts to the software creating and managing a bunch of directories on disk for you. I'd respectfully submit that anybody who's managing their music collection by manually creating and shuffling folders around, and manually updating filenames should turn in their self-congratulatory geek card.

    I'm pretty sure being someone "with brains" amounts to more than "right click -> new folder..." or "cd ~/music; mkdir 'The Beatles'", and doing that a thousand times doesn't make you any more of a geek than doing it once. In fact, insisting on doing something manually which is adequately, consistently, and automatically performed by software would tend to make you a luddite.

    WRT to your follow-up to your own post: perhaps some perspective would be helpful when you find yourself getting "angry" over the opinions other people share about a piece of media playback software? The submit button will still be there after you've proofed your comments, and spewing bile doesn't generally make people more likely to want to spend time reading your opinions.

  14. Re:Changeup by stewbacca · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...even worse support for those of us who use free software.

    I didn't realize iTunes wasn't free.

  15. Re:Good by billcopc · · Score: 2

    There are some of us who believe in a resource-based economy, rather than the current money-based system which is broken beyond repair. Within that context, resources expended to compete, are resources wasted outright. Competition is a destructive process.

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  16. Apple is a hardware company by DaveOrZach · · Score: 2

    Apple only blocks their software from working with other people's hardware (Palm syncing with iTunes) or if the software turns their hardware into a commodity (Flash on iOS.) Once you buy their hardware, they couldn't care less if you use non-apple software.

  17. Re:Not Hard to Challenge iTunes by jo_ham · · Score: 2

    Yes you can, at least in iTunes.

    Preferences > Advanced > uncheck "keep iTunes Media folder organised"

    Then it behaves exactly like Winamp if you want to do all the folder and music management yourself.