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World's Servers Process 9.57ZB of Data a Year

CWmike writes "Three years ago, the world's 27 million business servers processed 9.57 zettabytes, or 9,570,000,000,000,000,000,000 bytes of information. Researchers at the School of International Relations and Pacific Studies and the San Diego Supercomputer Center estimate that the total is equivalent to a 5.6-billion-mile-high stack of books stretching from Earth to Neptune and back to Earth, repeated about 20 times. By 2024, business servers worldwide will annually process the digital equivalent of a stack of books extending more than 4.37 light-years to Alpha Centauri, the scientists say. The report, titled 'How Much Information?: 2010 Report on Enterprise Server Information,' (PDF) was released at the SNW conference last month."

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  1. But... by camperslo · · Score: 1

    Does this count Sony?

    1. Re:But... by JavaBear · · Score: 2

      Sony don't process, they just prosecute, at least when they don't leak data like a sieve, and then prosecute others for their own mistakes.

    2. Re:But... by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 1

      I think we need to run a big data de-dupe.

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    3. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Speaking of Sony, a small suggestion from the 8-ball:

      Integrate a gaming platform that is free and open, yet offers crack/keygen-proof security. No PC-based system has ever actually delivered the goods on this point.

      Instant niche. If you go that route 200 million is a modest goal. Like anything else, when you make your platform into a cash cow, you get companies pouring resources into it and defending it.

      If you build it, they will come.

    4. Re:But... by Even+on+Slashdot+FOE · · Score: 1

      The only way to do this with modern technology is called an Arcade. Yeah, I went there.

      If people have physical access to the hardware and software, all the security in the world won't stop them from doing what they want to it in the long term.

    5. Re:But... by conspirator57 · · Score: 1

      I think we need to print all this data to embody the authors' chosen analogy. It might be the fastest way to Alpha Centauri. If a few forests have to bite it in service of this noble goal then that's fine with me.

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  2. How many of those requests... by MrEricSir · · Score: 2

    ...involved "v1agra" and fake Rolex watches?

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    1. Re:How many of those requests... by tom17 · · Score: 2

      That 'pile of books' would get you to Uranus.

    2. Re:How many of those requests... by feedayeen · · Score: 3, Informative

      That 'pile of books' would get you to Uranus.

      That's good. If each pill can 'double your penis', I'd only take me 46 or so go get there*

      *Citation: Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - 1737

  3. Units of measurements by beowulfcluster · · Score: 3, Funny

    How many libraries of Congress is one Neptune height stack?

    1. Re:Units of measurements by ameline · · Score: 2

      Is that a metric or imperial Library of Congress?

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    2. Re:Units of measurements by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      12 Shit Tonnes.

      (which is around 13.22 Shit Tons and almost 100 Shit Loads)

    3. Re:Units of measurements by swanzilla · · Score: 1

      (Pluto weeps)

    4. Re:Units of measurements by beelsebob · · Score: 1

      I think you mean shit mega grammes.

    5. Re:Units of measurements by i+kan+reed · · Score: 4, Funny

      Both if you crash into Mars along the way.

    6. Re:Units of measurements by camperdave · · Score: 1

      There, there, Pluto... You're still a planet in my books.

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    7. Re:Units of measurements by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Let's see. ~1MB per book.
      22,194,656 per LOC.
      22,194,656,000 bytes per LOC.

      9,570,000,000,000,000,000,000 bytes = 20 NHS = ~431,184,876,000 LOCs

      So very very roughly speaking a Neptune-height-stack (NHS) is around 21,559,243,800 Libraries-of-Congress (LOCs)

      The real question is, how many Burning-Libraries-of-Congress (BLOCs) are spent processing all of this information?

    8. Re:Units of measurements by Chowderbags · · Score: 1

      In case anyone was wondering, the 5.6 billion mile stack is about 6.6 million Library of Congress Distance Units right now (exact amount is subject to uncertainty in the measurement and drift of the Bookshelf Inflationary Constant, consult your local Librarian of Congress for more details).

    9. Re:Units of measurements by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oops. That's 20 round-trip NHS = 40 NHS = ~431,184,876,000 LOCs.

      So 10,779,621,900 LOCs.

    10. Re:Units of measurements by bennomatic · · Score: 2

      I know, right? I was thinking, they could totally make that stack smaller by reducing the font size and spacing of the text. And definitely get rid of hardcover books.

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    11. Re:Units of measurements by MaWeiTao · · Score: 1

      According to this site that would be 9.57 billion Libraries of Congress. If you only consider the printed collection.

    12. Re:Units of measurements by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      0.0000000000000000000001 if you like pages as thick as I do.

      Death to trees!

  4. What's that in by xMrFishx · · Score: 1

    libraries of congress per pencil sharpener?

    1. Re:What's that in by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 1

      How many cubic Watts are in that Furlong.

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  5. Neptunians did it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...no human being would stack books like this.

  6. How long to one hellabyte? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hellabyte is a word now, right?

  7. from Earth to Neptune and back to Earth by tverbeek · · Score: 1

    At what point in their respective orbits? The distance from Earth to Neptune varies by about three hundred million kilometers depending on what time of year.

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    1. Re:from Earth to Neptune and back to Earth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This would cause a variance of only 5%, which is insignificant.

    2. Re:from Earth to Neptune and back to Earth by tom17 · · Score: 1

      I'll just let the business know that this 5% downtime is insignificant. It's only 8.4 hours downtime a week guys, come on!

    3. Re:from Earth to Neptune and back to Earth by berashith · · Score: 1

      we can just place copies of flatland or war and peace in the stack to cover the variations.

    4. Re:from Earth to Neptune and back to Earth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hello, I am one of the researchers. The answer to your question is "yes". As it turns out, amount of data processed varies by about 0.1% as well, and it seems to depend on Neptune's orbit. We're now investigating this. Seems it has to do with gravitational waves from colliding black holes which is interfering with the speed of light, in turn impeding the number of bits per second that can be sent through fiber connections on earth.

      Thank you for your insightful comment.

    5. Re:from Earth to Neptune and back to Earth by iinlane · · Score: 1

      Not if you're creationist - for them Neptune revolves around the earth and hence the distance does not change much.

    6. Re:from Earth to Neptune and back to Earth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just do it like Sony. Do it all at once.

    7. Re:from Earth to Neptune and back to Earth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most Creationists accept the heliocentric model of the solar system. They just think it got that way by Magick.

    8. Re:from Earth to Neptune and back to Earth by bughunter · · Score: 1

      So now 5e07 LoC's are 'insignificant...'

      Tell that to Conan the Librarian!

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    9. Re:from Earth to Neptune and back to Earth by darkshadow88 · · Score: 1

      We're talking about variance, not downtime. It's more analogous to having some sort of rigged 20-sided die that rolls 10 almost every time, except in the occasional extreme case where it might roll, say, an 11.

  8. units by kipsate · · Score: 1

    equivalent to a 5.6-billion-mile-high stack of books stretching from Earth to Neptune and back to Earth

    Glad to see we finally got rid of that silly "library of congress" unit.

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    1. Re:units by mr1911 · · Score: 1

      Don't forget the added precision offered by the distance-to-planet unit.

      The stack could be shortened to Saturn and back if they would reduce to 10 point font.

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    2. Re:units by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      Of course not, silly. The Library of Congress is a measure of volume, not length.

      Sigh, what do they teach people nowadays.

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  9. tired by aintnostranger · · Score: 1

    I'm getting a little tired of science stories dumbing down things to "piles of books", "libaries of congress" etc... This site's is news for nerds, not news for Joe Sixpack.

    1. Re:tired by udoschuermann · · Score: 2

      Have one of these, instead: xkcd.com

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    2. Re:tired by berashith · · Score: 1

      a real nerd would calculate the speed of the top book in the stack relative to the bodies it would pass on the way, given that the stack is in a static location on earth.

    3. Re:tired by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      This site's is news for nerds, not news for Joe Sixpack.

      That's precisely the reason it's measured in books and not in football fields.

    4. Re:tired by sexconker · · Score: 1

      Pretty sure such a stack, properly affixed to the earth, would slow down the earth's rotation significantly.

    5. Re:tired by cpu6502 · · Score: 1

      9.6 billion terabyte USB drives.
      Better? Oh should I say: Nerdier? ;-)

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    6. Re:tired by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm pretty tired of the term 'Joe Sixpack'. It implies that the poster is 'self-aggrandizing nerd still angry that he wasn't popular in high school who trolls online forums all day, looking down at the rest of the populace who don't give a shit how smart he thinks he is'.

    7. Re:tired by aintnostranger · · Score: 1

      no, no disregard for "the rest of the populace". But, if I wanted to read science news in imprecise terms I would go to cnn, msnbc, etc... Maybe using the expression "joe sixpack" wasn't the most appropiate. Still, I expect better of slashdot news summaries.

  10. How many... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...neptunes of porn are contained in this?

  11. And then it all collapsed by cpu6502 · · Score: 1

    "By the year 2100, old had become so scarce that it was worth more than an ounce of silver, creating an energy drought. Citizens could barely afford to turn-on a 10 watt lightbulb..... forget the high expense of a computer and internet network."

    Surely there must be some Science-based fiction that deal with this negative future?

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    1. Re:And then it all collapsed by DriedClexler · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I'm totally up for reading some good LED fic.

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    2. Re:And then it all collapsed by cpu6502 · · Score: 1

      LEDs use a Lot more power. They would not be used during an energy drought. Probably e-ink would be used (like the kindle), although it would cost $50 per battery charge (ouch). Maybe society would revert to paper, since it requires no energy to use a book.

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    3. Re:And then it all collapsed by camperdave · · Score: 1

      "By the year 2100, old had become so scarce that it was worth more than an ounce of silver, creating an energy drought. Citizens could barely afford to turn-on a 10 watt lightbulb..... forget the high expense of a computer and internet network."

      Surely there must be some Science-based fiction that deal with this negative future?

      There's a seniors home near my place that's full of old. Come and get it.

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    4. Re:And then it all collapsed by DriedClexler · · Score: 1

      LEDs use a Lot more power.

      No, they don't. Not light emitted per unit of electrical input, anyway.

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    5. Re:And then it all collapsed by sexconker · · Score: 1

      Assuming you meant "oil", the premise is still preposterous.

      We have dams.
      We have nuclear reactors.
      We have vegetables that literally ooze disgusting oils useful only for burning and causing diabetes.
      When we run out of all of those, we can burn the diabetics.

      Then, we have human-powered generators such as hand cranks, and flesh lights.

    6. Re:And then it all collapsed by vlm · · Score: 1

      Maybe society would revert to paper, since it requires no energy to use a book.

      LOL good luck reading paper books without gas for the chainsaws, diesel for the cranes and trucks to the mill, hundreds of megawatts of electricity for the paper mills, diesel for the trucks to the printers, oil for the printing press ink, propane for the pallet forklifts, diesel for the trucks to the store, gasoline to drive to and from the store...

      Would be easier and probably more ecologically sound to stick to wireless kindles.

      Also I find it unlikely a kindle charge would require $50 at present value... That would imply the food to keep a bicyclist pedaling very hard for about six minutes would cost over $50... In the inevitable hyperinflation scenario, a single M and M candy might sell for $50 when a starbucks coffee is a million bucks.

      I'm guessing a kindle has a single cell battery so figure 2 volts and at most lets say 5 amp hours of capacity. That's a whopping 10 watthours. So, a bicyclist can pedal a good 100 watts for quite awhile, so estimate you could theoretically charge a kindle using 6 minutes of bicycle pedal power. Most likely someone pedals very hard for an hour to charge a big battery, which slowly trickle charges the Kindle over the course of hours. Another way to estimate is a USB port can charge a kindle in a couple hours, and USB ports struggle to output much more than a watt, so it can't be more than a couple watthours.

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    7. Re:And then it all collapsed by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      Come and get it.

      But you have to hurry or all the old will be gone.

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    8. Re:And then it all collapsed by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      I agree that it's silly to think that electricity will disappear forever. However when you sit down and think seriously about the problem involved in say, powering your home through alternative energy, it dawns on you what a huge amount of power we consume with our basic house-hold appliances. I just have to look at that 125 amp breaker - with 240V that is 30kW that can be sucked through it. Of course I never get close, even with the water heater, clothes dryer, fridge, stove and computer running at the same time, but for peak power that is one crapload of solar panels, batteries and/or wind turbines just for little old me. PS - I am not in the US, your building codes may vary.

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    9. Re:And then it all collapsed by haruchai · · Score: 1

      Let's start stockpiling the fat from dead people and turn it into biodiesel. All those Western world lardasses must be good for something.

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    10. Re:And then it all collapsed by fireforadrymouth · · Score: 1

      LOL good luck reading paper books without gas for the chainsaws, diesel for the cranes and trucks to the mill, hundreds of megawatts of electricity for the paper mills, diesel for the trucks to the printers, oil for the printing press ink, propane for the pallet forklifts, diesel for the trucks to the store, gasoline to drive to and from the store...

      Because paper was invented after industrialisation, am I right?

    11. Re:And then it all collapsed by vlm · · Score: 1

      Because paper was invented after industrialisation, am I right?

      Because the average citizen being able to afford more than one book (probably just a religious text) was invented after industrialization, you are correct.

      There was time when "owning many books" was considered conspicuous consumption for rich people, not just "being weird or nerdy" like it would be considered now.

      I would assume in the "post oil era" book ownership and reading would drop back to "pre oil era" levels, in other words, for 99% of the population, it would not be financially possible.

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    12. Re:And then it all collapsed by torgis · · Score: 1

      Let's start stockpiling the fat from dead people and turn it into biodiesel. All those Western world lardasses must be good for something.

      Soylent Benzene?

  12. A stack of books... by cmeans · · Score: 2

    ...so high, or just 1 really large PDF.

    1. Re:A stack of books... by blair1q · · Score: 1

      ...that has only three words of text in it...

  13. Measurement we can relate to. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    9,570,000,000,000,000,000,000 bytes of information. Researchers at the School of International Relations and Pacific Studies and the San Diego Supercomputer Center estimate that the total is equivalent to a 5.6-billion-mile-high stack of books stretching from Earth to Neptune and back to Earth, repeated about 20 times.

    Enough of the "book" analogy. How many 3 minute clips of porn is that?!

    1. Re:Measurement we can relate to. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At Blu-ray quality of 13 gigabytes per hour, that's about 83 million years of... video.

  14. can we get a picture of this idea? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it would look cool hopefully

  15. And how much is that at retail? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow, according to Bell Canada, that means those companies are paying $14.355 trillion a year on internet access alone, never mind the machines.

    You could solve world hunger with that kind of money, and there's 27 of them? That's enough to feed everyone on the planet and pay for their housing for the next 6 years.

    Hey, this is what your government believes...

    1. Re:And how much is that at retail? by Daniel_Staal · · Score: 1

      Hmm. That's about 25% of the world's GDP spent on internet access.

      (Assuming, of course, that all that data actually transferred over the internet. Which is actually not all that likely: Much of that data would be data generated in-house, and transfered - if not not processed on the same server which generates it - over local networks. After all, if you generated a few TB of data every day that needed to be processed, why spend money to send it someplace if you don't have to?)

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  16. What are we going to do now? by JavaBear · · Score: 1

    After Zetta (10^21) comes Yotta (10^24), but then what? Are SI going to come up with new prefixes for values 10^27 and up?

    1. Re:What are we going to do now? by new+death+barbie · · Score: 5, Funny

      After Zetta (10^21) comes Yotta (10^24), but then what? Are SI going to come up with new prefixes for values 10^27 and up?

      Lotta
      Buncha
      Loada
      Tonna

      That should hold us for a while.

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    2. Re:What are we going to do now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pretty sure that's when we start using the "quad" system.

      Kiloquads, Megaquads, Gigaquads.

      If you want you know what's after that, you'll have to invent your own Sci-Fi show.

    3. Re:What are we going to do now? by jo_ham · · Score: 1

      There's a movement to do just that:

      http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Official-Petition-to-Establish-Hella-as-the-SI-Prefix-for-1027/277479937276

      heh.

      Personally I'd have gone for "gigantor-"

    4. Re:What are we going to do now? by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      You're not considering uniqueness for abbreviation purposes.

      Anyway, next will likely be something starting with X, such as Xerta- (and xekto- (10^-27) and Xerbi- (2^90)), and continuing to work backwards through the alphabet, skipping T as it is already taken.

      I expect there to be a fight over who gets naming rights for 10^±30 and 2^100 with resistance to using W for various reasons.

      Also we're not beyond using characters not in our 26 letter set. See micro-.

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    5. Re:What are we going to do now? by ArsonSmith · · Score: 1

      a Yottabyte?

      "How you get so big eating food of this kind?"

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    6. Re:What are we going to do now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Whatta-
      Hella-
      Shitta-
      Fucka-

      Pretty sure these won't be standard, just common

    7. Re:What are we going to do now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would love to see squilobytes and zilobytes as well.

    8. Re:What are we going to do now? by ShakaUVM · · Score: 1

      IIRC, there was a movement to get it named the hella-byte. (Or hecka-byte, maybe.)

    9. Re:What are we going to do now? by giorgist · · Score: 1

      :-) Being Greek and all ...

      Zetta, Ita, theta, iota, kappa ...

      "Z" is not the last letter, Omega is. So we have quite a bit of libraries we can acomodate

    10. Re:What are we going to do now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wasn't there a petition to make "hella" (South Park reference needed) the prefix for 10^27.

      http://boingboing.net/2010/03/01/petition-to-make-hel.html

      hella cool.

    11. Re:What are we going to do now? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have missed the Hella-discussion:
      http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2010-03/physics-student-petitions-hella-si-units

  17. I assume by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that a significant part of those bytes is just pr0n.

  18. We've come a long way by udoschuermann · · Score: 1

    "I have travelled the length and breadth of this country, and have talked with the best people in business administration. I can assure you on the highest authority that data processing is a fad and won't last out the year." — Editor in charge of business books at Prentice-Hall publishers, responding to Karl V. Karlstrom (a junior editor who had recommended a manuscript on the new science of data processing), c. 1957

    It's been hardly more than fifty years. Where will we be in another fifty years, say by 2057? A virtual stack of books to circumscribe the whole galaxy? I, for one, am impressed that despite our propensity to beat each other into a bloody pulp over differences in opinions, we hairless apes have come this far!

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    1. Re:We've come a long way by blair1q · · Score: 1

      I have travelled the length and breadth of this internet, and have talked with the worst people in web 2.0. I can assure you on the highest authority that people's hunger for unoriginal content is a fad and won't last out the year.

    2. Re:We've come a long way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A virtual stack of books to circumscribe the whole galaxy?

      I didn't know the galaxy was uncut...

  19. the real question by dainbug · · Score: 1

    where does the 'cats wanting cheeseburgers' section start and how big is it?

  20. Better visual by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Informative

    Most people cannot imagine the distance to Neptune, so that is a bad visual. Here is a better one:

    9.57ZB is approx 10^22 bytes. A typical laptop HDD can hold a terabyte, so you would need 10^10, to about 10 billion. A laptop HDD is about 3 cubic inches. A standard shipping container (40x8x8 ft^3) would hold about 1.5 million if they were packed tightly. So you would need about 6800 containers. That would be a train about 75 miles long.

    If each byte in 9.57ZB was a water molecule. It would be slightly less than a teaspoon.

    1. Re:Better visual by Dunega · · Score: 1

      So how many Libraries of Congress are in a teaspoon?

    2. Re:Better visual by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Compressed or uncompressed?

      Remember: this is important.

    3. Re:Better visual by mr1911 · · Score: 1

      Isn't a teaspoon just a compressed tablespoon anyway?

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    4. Re:Better visual by adavies42 · · Score: 1

      i thought water was incompressible?

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    5. Re:Better visual by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      So you would need about 6800 containers.

      So about 1 Sendai tsunami's worth of containers?

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    6. Re:Better visual by blair1q · · Score: 1

      Maybe in Sendai alone.

      This is about a thousand containers:

      http://www.flickr.com/photos/bcnbits/2859509269/

      Doesn't look like much from that angle.

    7. Re:Better visual by sootman · · Score: 1

      > Most people cannot imagine the distance to
      > Neptune, so that is a bad visual.
      > ...
      > If each byte in 9.57ZB was a water molecule. It
      > would be slightly less than a teaspoon.

      Most people can't visualize the size of a water molecule either. ;-)

      Good HDD analogy though. I agree that the original "stack of books" one is dumb. Though I wouldn't even break it down to hard drives. Just say "it would take X many containers full of laptops* to hold all that data."

      * or iPods.

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    8. Re:Better visual by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      not many... about a spoonful

    9. Re:Better visual by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think books probably are a good start, cause they make even one terrabyte look like a lot. My suggestion, (though I am too lazy to do the math) would be, put the books not in nice stacks but all over earth surface, and see how many layers you get.

    10. Re:Better visual by ian_from_brisbane · · Score: 4, Funny

      A laptop HDD is about 3 cubic inches.

      What's that in cubic centimetres?

      A standard shipping container (40x8x8 ft^3) would hold about 1.5 million if they were packed tightly.

      What's that in cubic metres?

      That would be a train about 75 miles long.

      What's that in km?

      If each byte in 9.57ZB was a water molecule. It would be slightly less than a teaspoon.

      You mean 5ml?

      I think I'll go back to thinking of the distance to Neptune.

  21. Who really cares? by LordStormes · · Score: 3, Informative

    The vast majority of this data isn't stored. The vast majority of it is streaming porn and Netflix. Why did we pay some "scientist" for 3 years (read the summary, it says "three years ago") to calculate this, so we can all be amused by it on /. for 10 minutes? Part of the reason nobody's working in science anymore is that most of our government- and university-backed science is fluff like this to get your soundbite, rather than stuff that makes a difference in our world. Figure out how to GET to Neptune, not how to stack virtual books that high with 30-second free trials of every porn site in Russia.

    1. Re:Who really cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah man, I'm right with you. Fuck this learning shit. If a piece of information isn't immediately useful in my life, it is completely useless and a complete waste of my time. What has learning ever gotten us? NOTHING, that's what.

    2. Re:Who really cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The vast majority of this data isn't stored. The vast majority of it is streaming porn and Netflix. Why did we pay some "scientist" for 3 years (read the summary, it says "three years ago") to calculate this, so we can all be amused by it on /. for 10 minutes?

      Because that's all he did for three years. Three years. Just to say that number. Obviously if his research had achieved anything else it would have been mentioned in the summary.

      No-one gives a shit about real science - not even /., so the press churn out reports of some of the lightest fluff, skimmed from the surface of science and dressed up in kindergarten speak. Then everyone complains that no-one does any real science any more. #idiocracy

    3. Re:Who really cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Actually its data to get businesses to realize that they need to invest in more hardware. Hardly fluff for them. To places like the potential Netflixes and future porn sites they need to know how much data they can realistic expect to have to handle projected outward. The last time I checked the world ran on money not nice thoughts and Star Trek utopian concepts. I'd love nothing more than to see a trip to Neptune in my life, but unless it can be proven profitable by studies like this one it isn't going to happen. Science like this is how those businesses make decisions for future revenue. If you ever want progress, its through these outlets that you're going to see it.

    4. Re:Who really cares? by b4dc0d3r · · Score: 1

      FTFA "Most of this information is incredibly transient: it is created, used and discarded in a few seconds without ever being seen by a person," said Bohn, a professor of technology management at UC San Diego.

      XML overhead, HTTP headers, page reloads instead of AJAX/DOM updates. And much of it is identical, just served to different people, such as the dynamically generated static pages of slashdot.

      There is no point to this number other than illustrating how much data goes over the pipes. And even then, it studied only servers, not p2p or darknet traffic.

      The analysis relied heavily on data and estimates from researchers at IDC and Gartner, which compile regular reports on server sales.

      So people buy servers, which translate into bytes served. Brilliant! the underlying data isn't even representative, just extrapolated. There is no content to this story other than back-of-the-envelope arse-originated SWAG.

    5. Re:Who really cares? by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      Don't worry there is real science going on, but unfortunately you don't speak Mandarin.

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    6. Re:Who really cares? by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      The vast majority of this data isn't stored.

      Contrary to legislative intent.

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    7. Re:Who really cares? by VortexCortex · · Score: 1

      The vast majority of this data isn't stored. The vast majority of it is streaming porn and Netflix. Why did we pay some "scientist" for 3 years (read the summary, it says "three years ago") to calculate this, so we can all be amused by it on /. for 10 minutes? Part of the reason nobody's working in science anymore is that most of our government- and university-backed science is fluff like this to get your soundbite, rather than stuff that makes a difference in our world. Figure out how to GET to Neptune, not how to stack virtual books that high with 30-second free trials of every porn site in Russia.

      Who cares? I'll tell you who cares -- Copyright holders. I may have a website, but I did not authorize you or all the intermediary routers to copy my work multiple times per view! Just because I put my HTML e-book on my web-server doesn't give you or your ISP the right to make so many duplications!

      I'm positive if you further analyzed the data that was transmitted you would realize that there are Billions and Billions of illegal reproductions in that dataset!

      iTunes doesn't license AT&T's routers to make duplications of the songs you download -- And yet there they are! 9 Zetabytes worth of illegal downloads!

      (Seriously folk -- Destroy Copyright laws or reform them, they do not apply anymore, this is the Information age.)

    8. Re:Who really cares? by blair1q · · Score: 1

      You read a soundbite filtered through multiple internet links at sites given to hyping soundbites and from that you conclude that all government science funding is going to producing soundbites.

      Just how big is the cluebat hanging over your head?

    9. Re:Who really cares? by kesuki · · Score: 1

      in tfa it read this

      "The scientists estimate there were 3.18 billion workers in the world's labor force at the time, each of whom received an average of 3TB of information per year."

      was only business workers. so your point is invalidated.

    10. Re:Who really cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the immortal words of Tom Baker/Douglas Adams: What is it all for!?

    11. Re:Who really cares? by sco08y · · Score: 1

      Why did we pay some "scientist" for 3 years (read the summary, it says "three years ago") to calculate this, so we can all be amused by it on /. for 10 minutes?

      Astounding as it may seem, researchers don't just work on one project to the exclusion of all else. This is probably the "human interest" stuff they do on the side.

    12. Re:Who really cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Figure out how to GET to Neptune
      How about "on top of a stack of books" ?

    13. Re:Who really cares? by LordStormes · · Score: 1

      I read the COMMENTS on the site, to see if anybody else felt the same way I did.

    14. Re:Who really cares? by LordStormes · · Score: 1

      Yes, but Netflix and porn sites don't need to buy enough servers to serve up THE ENTIRE INTERWEBS. How much bandwidth did Netflix use? If we're lucky, your movie site will be that big.

  22. Bits and Bytes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    11,298,261,810,265,626,173,768 bytes... please multiply by 1024.

  23. This by Konster · · Score: 1

    This needs to be put into A Library Of Congress context before I can understand it.

    1. Re:This by idontgno · · Score: 1

      I can't understand this, really, unless it's a pizza analogy. Or maybe a car analogy. Best yet, a pizza delivery car analogy.

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  24. Meaningless... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unless you can quantify this in terms of number of football fields I cannot comprehend the size of this value.

  25. Analogy by gwstuff · · Score: 2

    Unless you count the bits, rather than the bytes. That gets you all the way to Alpha Centauri *and* three planetary blocks further down the starway to the nice, homely pizzeria at the intersection...

  26. Symmetrical book stacking... by jimmydigital · · Score: 1

    You're right, no human being would stack books like this.

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    1. Re:Symmetrical book stacking... by gspock · · Score: 1

      You should try, only 13 years of stacking to be the first human to travel to Alpha Centauri. I'm telling you, book stacking is the space engine of the future.

  27. Getting close to a mole by Megahard · · Score: 1

    This is within a factor of ten to a mole of bits. That's an analogy science geeks can relate to.

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    1. Re:Getting close to a mole by jo_ham · · Score: 1

      Great, I can just see someone at Best Buy in a few years:

      "Yes, I'l like to buy a hard drive please, 0.2 mol dm^3 or more...

    2. Re:Getting close to a mole by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, and it makes me think how ridiculously little information we think we're processing compared to the extant information in our world, or even just the room we're in currently.

      Take a bottle of Dasani water and count the molecules, say it takes a byte to count one molecule. It would take 184 years for the worlds servers to process as many bytes as you would use up just counting the molecules, let alone locating them or describing them in any other way.

  28. Innumeracy by cohomology · · Score: 1

    Three significant digits?

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  29. Your brain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    In related news, your brain processed 10 zettabytes in the four months. Seriously. Even if you take the minimalist view that each neuron is just doing a simple summation and threshold, and each synapse is a simple multiply, there are over 10^14 synapses in the human brain. The brain runs at 100 hz, meaning 10^16 bytes processed per second. There are about 10^7 seconds in four months, which comes out to 10^22 total operations, or about 10 zettabytes. So really, I'm surprised how *small* the number is for the worlds networks. Clearly, true AI is still a long ways off.

  30. base 10? by oneiros27 · · Score: 1

    It's only 8.1 ZiB.

    If they wanted to be impressive, they could've said it was more than 10^7 porn years.

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    1. Re:base 10? by blair1q · · Score: 1

      I swear officer, she told me she was 10^7!

  31. Why not use relavant terms? by Time_Ngler · · Score: 1

    Isn't a lot clearer just to say it's equivalent 9.57 billion terabytes?

    I mean you could also make it seem really small by saying it was equivalent to the size of a 1 second clip of the beating of a fruit fly's wing recorded as uncompressed 4096x4096 video at 71.3 picohertz.

    1. Re:Why not use relavant terms? by blair1q · · Score: 1

      It's 1.2e16 Lennas.

    2. Re:Why not use relavant terms? by SydShamino · · Score: 1

      Zettabyte already is a relevant term. It means 10^21 bytes. Using "billion terabytes" is more confusing because you're using two different scaling factors. It would make more sense to say "billion trillion bytes".

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    3. Re:Why not use relavant terms? by Time_Ngler · · Score: 1

      It just seems that most people who use the internet know what a terabyte is. Terabyte size hard drives are pretty common, so it's easy to understand how much space that is. And although 10 billion is hard to imagine, "billion" is a commonly used term and understood.

      Whereas people aren't familiar with a zettabyte, or a 10^21 bytes, or 1 with 21 zeros, any more then they are familiar with the space required to hold a 4096x4096 1second video running at 71.3 picohertz, or how much data is in a stack of books 5.6 billion miles high.

    4. Re:Why not use relavant terms? by SydShamino · · Score: 1

      Most people who use the internet have no idea what "terabyte" means. They probably think it's a marketing term like "Pentium".

      And if I recall correctly, the U.S. uses "million" and "billion" differently than Europe does. I'm too lazy to Google the difference now but I don't think those translate very well either.

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    5. Re:Why not use relavant terms? by Time_Ngler · · Score: 1

      Most would have a better idea of what a terabyte that is compared to zettabyte. And we are talking about network traffic, which is a subject that the people would would be interested in and the people that know what a terabyte is probably overlaps somewhat, I'm guessing.

      Europe, right... and not the UK, though, because they use billion as the US does.. so people speaking other languages. I apologize, I should have thought about them.. I can't be English centric, regardless if we are talking about terms in the English language.. sorry, I should have put that in my post, "English only". Next time.

      And that reminds me, didn't you just write that to use billion trillion bytes is a better term? So, wait, I'm trying to think here... when you write billion and trillion, it makes sense... but when I write it.. it confuses European people.. Hmm.. maybe you could help out here?

    6. Re:Why not use relavant terms? by SydShamino · · Score: 1

      Using "billion trillion" is at least using two terms from the same nomenclature. Using "billion terra" is mixing SI nomenclature with standard counting nomenclature - which just seems silly.

      And the only reason some number of people know what a terabyte is? Because people started using it when the term was appropriate, instead of using "one million megabytes". Now zettabyte is the relevant term and people need to learn it. Fortunately they can drop kilobyte from their memory to make room; no one cares about those any more.

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    7. Re:Why not use relavant terms? by Time_Ngler · · Score: 1

      Using "billion trillion" is at least using two terms from the same nomenclature. Using "billion terra" is mixing SI nomenclature with standard counting nomenclature - which just seems silly.

      You didn't blink when I pointed out you just contradicted yourself, and then you hit me up with that?

      Is "billion trillion" less silly? Why not thousand million million? How about gigaterabyte? Does that sound better?

      Anyway, the term "billion trillion bytes" is confusing to more people than "billion terabytes", because terabytes is a more familiar term. When was the last time you saw a hard drive advertised that it held "one trillion bytes"? You even wrote,

      Fortunately they can drop kilobyte from their memory to make room; no one cares about those any more.

      If they can drop "kilobyte" from their memory already, when have they dropped "byte"?

      And the only reason some number of people know what a terabyte is? Because people started using it when the term was appropriate, instead of using "one million megabytes". Now zettabyte is the relevant term and people need to learn it.

      Which is why the original article tried to explain what "zettabyte" was. I simply objected to the comparison of 6.5 million miles of stacked books. "billion terabytes" goes a lot further towards giving people a grasp of what zettabyte means.

      I don't even understand your position, anyway. Care to clarify? Do you just want the article to drop "9.57 zettabytes" without explaining further? Do you want it to be "9.57 zettabytes is the same as a billion trillion bytes"? Or do you, as it seems increasingly obvious, just like to nitpick without revealing any opinion of your own, flipping from one position to another in the hopes of "winning"?

  32. That's a messed up metric... by VortexCortex · · Score: 1

    Why the hell would they measure the data in Zetabytes? That comes out to an unwieldy 9.57 ZB.

    Books between planets? Common folk don't comprehend global scales, much less interplanetary scales... Want proof? Did anyone ask at what time of year the measurement was taken? An exact date would be required, and even then, most common folk don't know if we are closer or nearer to the planets mentioned at that date -- It's a ridiculously obtuse measure since the unit (planetary distance) wildly varies by date.

    Besides: What size book? How many pages per book? Lines per page / Font size? Vellum or Parchment? Standard 20Lb copier paper? Every example in the whole article is totally inaccurate. Additionally, Libraries of Congress (as some commenter's have inquired about) is an antiquated measurement that also varies.

    I prefer using the already firmly established measure, thus, TFS should read: "Three years ago, the world's 27 million business servers processed exactly 1 Internet of information..."

    How much data is a 2008 Internet worth in today's Internets? Exactly 1 TL;DR.

    (On a more serious note, are we sure they don't mean Zebbibytes?)

    1. Re:That's a messed up metric... by Laxori666 · · Score: 1

      That could actually be a good measure for relative purposes. Measure the internet's worth of info for each year. See how 2001 compares to 2000, 2002 to 2001, etc, or 2010 to 2005, 2010 to 1995, etc.

  33. And to think.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I more impressed with myself after reading this considering I know EVERYTHING!!

  34. IPv6 by dalleboy · · Score: 1

    Even if each byte of these 9.57 zettabytes were assigned it's own IPv6 address the address space would suffice for additionally 35 Petayears.

  35. Then in 25 years. by jellomizer · · Score: 1

    We can carry that much information in our cellphones. We go back in history see this article and laugh at their puny attempt to impress our future selfs on the amount of data we once processed.
    I remember back in the late 80's people were talking about the amount of data that can be stored on 3.5" Floppy. And was impressed they could fit the text of an encyclopedia onto it.

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  36. More meaningless numbers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a book which is approximately 1.88 inches thick. It weighs 2.8 pounds.

    It takes 24 trees to create a ton of printing paper. Those trees would be 40 feet tall and ~7 inches in diameter. A ton of this book would have nearly 715 volumes.

    2808 copies of this book would cover a mile and weigh a little less than four tons. A stack of these books going to Proxima Centauri would comprise 69.64 quadrillion volumes and weigh 13.92x10^14 tons (note our home planet weighs approximately 1.316x10^25 pounds) requiring a forest of 3.8976x10^15 trees. Considering a little less than 1250 trees per two and a half acres becomes 5000 trees per ten acres. 3,200,000 trees fill a square mile requiring 1.24x10^23 square miles for the trees.

    Goodness knows how much water would be needed for irrigation, the biomass for fertilization, the joules necessary to render the wood into paper let alone the necessary distribution/dispersement and people power needed to make this a reality.

    From this brief thought experiment I have come to one conclusion. The USA needs to convert to metric.

  37. Civilizations and efficiency by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't these kind of stats bring home, presently, how utterly inefficient we are as a technoligcal species? With all that data being processed, how many times has the same problem, and scenario, been calculated, and recalculated again? How much information was processed, and power used to be more specific, that produced nothing of intrinsic, redeeming value to society or advanced civilization in some form more than the stifling the moments for the purpose of entertainment? Yes the social masses must have their break and lethargy, however it's hard to see the gold in stream when we muddy so much water.

    I must apologize, though. Me being the dreamer that I am, hoped we'd be furthur along in our spacial exporations than we are at this point in time.

  38. Energy requirements by Luckster7 · · Score: 1

    It's a good thing that the Zettabyte File System (ZFS) stores more than a few zetabytes or we wouldn't be able to go swimming anymore.

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  39. Blizzard And Activision by xQuarkDS9x · · Score: 2

    I wonder if this counted all of the World of Warcraft servers worldwide as well? Since 2004 I'm sure there's been a LOT of information sent back and forth between millions of players! :)

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  40. I just don't believe it by lsolano · · Score: 1

    I do not want to under appreciate the people that made this research, but I just don't believe it. At all.

    Evey time I see any of this studies I wonder if there exist on this planet any way to know, not even an approximation, a thing like that.

    Thousands of private servers can not be count on.

      9.57 zettabytes ? Wow, how did you get the .57? Maybe it was rounded from the real 9.56873981273982173 zettabytes calculated.

    A more serious conclusion would have been "about 10 zettabytes".

  41. Artificially inflated count by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How much of this data is redundant? I'd be willing to bet on closer examination at least half the processed data is for backup purposes.
    Oh, and don't forget what spam brings to the table.

  42. "5.6-billion-mile-high stack of books" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    >"total is equivalent to a 5.6-billion-mile-high stack of books5.6-billion-mile-high stack of books"

    No it isn't. It's actually equivalent to a 5.5-billion-mile-high stack of porno mags with a 0.1-billion-mile-high stack of books on top.

  43. 20 Neptune high stacks of books by rossdee · · Score: 1

    That would presumably cause a wobble in the sun's rotation, which could be detected at interstellar distances. We finnaly have a way of finding intelligent civilisations (even if they don't broadcast radio or TV signals.

  44. How much of that is redundant? by Snotman · · Score: 1

    Nuff said!

    1. Re:How much of that is redundant? by Legion303 · · Score: 1

      Sorry, could you repeat that?

  45. Harnessing this information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can we somehow harness all this information for NLS (near-lightspeed) space travel?

  46. Official: the "Book lightyear" by Namarrgon · · Score: 2

    I'd like to nominate the BkLy (about 5.5e26 bytes) as the new official information metric, to replace the sadly outdated LoC.

    For comparison, there are about 50 teraLoCs to the BkLy, or 2 attoBkLy in a LoC.

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  47. 9.57ZB of data... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In Porn.

  48. Relevant compression technique by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Reduce the font size of all that data, then it will fall far short of Alpha Centauri. Brilliant.

  49. Friday by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Damn it! We had a 9 ZB cap. We would have been fine if it wasn't for Rebecca Black.

  50. MOD PARENT UP by gumpish · · Score: 1

    Not sure why I don't get mod points anymore, so I'll just do what I can by getting the more suggestible /. types to mod your post up by instructing them to do so in my subject line.

  51. Another study suggests that 90% of it is porn by garompeta · · Score: 1

    ...and reposted RickRolls in YouTube

  52. How much of that is banner ads? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    See question in my subject please, and thank you if anyone has any information that's been collected by a fairly reputable enough source (or any at this point for starters at least), on how much of what we see in webbrowsers online, by percentage, is ad banners. I have always wondered about that.

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  54. Ringworld Units by bryan1945 · · Score: 1

    It may be time to come up with a new unit: how many Ringworlds would that be?

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  56. Arbitrary precision by damn_registrars · · Score: 1
    I rather doubt the processing volume was precisely

    9,570,000,000,000,000,000,000 bytes

    As stated in the summary. While the mark of 9.57ZB implies that number, it does not inherently mean that exact number - especially in a situation like this where that precise of a measurement is pretty well impossible.

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  57. thats a lot of porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    wow 9.5699 ZB of Porn, porn, porn

    1. Re:thats a lot of porn by bigsteve@dstc · · Score: 1

      wow 9.5699 ZB of Porn, porn, porn

      Nah. Porn is measured in jigajigabytes.

  58. I immediately wondered... by rnturn · · Score: 1

    ... whether Sturgeon's Law applies to that business data. (Yeah... it probably does and it's likely an underestimation.)

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  59. How far is it in stone tablets? by scrib · · Score: 1

    What have books got to do with anything?

    I know the zettabyte is really hard to conceptualize, but does it help to convert it to some equally ludicrous measurement? Neptune and back, 20 times? Is that when Neptune is closest to Earth, furthest, or some sort of average? I mean, there is the possibility of a 2 AU difference in EVERY STACK! 2 AU x 2 stacks x 20 round trips is 80 AU of uncertainty! That enough for at least a round trip to Neptune!

    Or, to put it more understandable terms, that's at least 50 exabytes worth of stacked books in distance...

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  60. porn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    of this 9.7699ZB was porn.

  61. subject by Legion303 · · Score: 1

    "the total is equivalent to a 5.6-billion-mile-high stack of books stretching from Earth to Neptune and back to Earth, repeated about 20 times."

    I'm American. How many football fields is that?

    And how much of that is only "information" in the most technical sense of the word, consisting of LOLcats, ASCII dongs and such?

  62. Criminal Activities by brrgo · · Score: 1

    I believe that the criminals too are in information overload. They have sooooo many stolen identities that they just don't know what to do with them all. .... NOW.... All we need to do is pollute that with bad information as to cause them and their customers to question the validity of the data and stop buying it.

  63. WoW is surprisingly low bandwidth by sirwired · · Score: 1

    WoW is surprisingly low bandwidth; it's even less than simple music streaming, much less video streaming.

  64. process? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kind of a misnomer. Nobody comes near processing that. Pretty much just a loop from cache to network card/internet for most things I think. You can't really count the latest house episode as 100TB just because 100k people download it. It is far far less "processing" and much more ~1s of CPU time saying send this 1MB chunk now repeatedly. To me processing = actually computing something against the data. This simply isn't happening (at least on the server side) at this scale yet.

  65. Units conversion by nicomp · · Score: 1

    Thank goodness they present the quantity in terms of an intergalactic stack of books.