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Cellphones Get Government Chips For Disaster Alert

Jeremiah Cornelius writes "The chairman of the Federal Communications Commission, Julius Genachowski, said the Commercial Mobile Alert System that Congress approved in 2006 will direct messages to cellphones in case of a terrorist attack, natural disaster, or other serious emergency. There will be at least three levels of messages, ranging from a critical national alert from the president to warnings about impending or occurring national disasters to alerts about missing or abducted children. The alert would show up on the phone's front screen, instead of the traditional text message inbox, and arrive with a distinct ring and probably a vibration. People will be able to opt out of receiving all but the presidential alerts."

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  1. No Texting While Driving! by billstewart · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yes, Officer, I was just reading this text while I was driving because it might have been from the PRESIDENT!

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    1. Re:No Texting While Driving! by billstewart · · Score: 4, Insightful

      More seriously, it's kind of annoying that the system for telling you to turn around and run away because of tornadoes or nuclear explosions or big car accidents or whatever requires you to read texts while driving. (I can't do that - I need to wear my reading glasses to read texts, and need to not wear them to be able to drive.) I hope they'll also use the Emergency Broadcast System if they're playing games with texts. And it's annoying that you can turn off local emergency alerts (which you might actually need to receive), but can't turn off texts from the President (which are either about Nuclear War, in which case a text message is rather too late, or else they're political spam.)

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    2. Re:No Texting While Driving! by rainmouse · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The presidential ones could also be about NY, California or DC.

      Or from a different source altogether. I bet hackers are already desperate to break into this system and issue world wide zombie apocalypse warnings!

    3. Re:No Texting While Driving! by kmoser · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And I wouldn't worry about political spam. The first administration that abuses it for that purpose will be thrown out of office in no time at all.

      Right. Because even far more egregious abuses of power, such as unconstitutional, warrantless search and seizure, have always resulted in the current ruling party being thrown out in a timely fashion.

    4. Re:No Texting While Driving! by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 3, Interesting

      People tend to be lazy and clueless. Warrantless search & seizure is not so routine that every single American is affected by it directly, and in many cases those affected don't even know that. Many don't really care about the Constitution either, or don't understand it to realize that it's being violated.

      Unblockable political spam that everyone gets, on the other hand, is very easy to understand as "bad". Don't worry about that.

  2. Abducted children alerts? Yeah right. by snsh · · Score: 3, Informative

    Every Amber Alert I've seen was related to simple custody disputes among mothers, fathers, and relatives. The kids are not in real danger, but sometimes on TV they claim danger because the kid is on insulin or Ritalin or something.

  3. Re:What the? by jpapon · · Score: 5, Funny

    Like you, I yearn for the days of yore. Back when men were men, books were made out of paper, and people died from disasters the old fashioned way... surprised.

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  4. Presidential Alerts? by mr100percent · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Smacks of V for Vendetta to me. "You designed it, sir, you wanted it foolproof. You said every television in London!"

    1. Re:Presidential Alerts? by Eightbitgnosis · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Oh Jesus...

      I can just now see Anonymous bringing havoc to the alert system with announcements from President Pedobear

    2. Re:Presidential Alerts? by Professr3 · · Score: 3, Informative

      I would buy a phone for this.

  5. you'll find out a lot more than you bargained for by Lead+Butthead · · Score: 5, Insightful

    actually, I fully expect the system will be hijacked to disseminate spam within hours after going live.

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  6. What else is in the chip... by girlintraining · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I have only one question: Will this standard be open for public inspection?

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  7. Re:What the? by MoonBuggy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So buy a basic phone, opt out from the alert messages, and you're done. Sure, it sounds a bit unnecessary, but it does no harm if unused and is potentially helpful if it is used - that's better than can be said for a lot of things your taxes are funding. If the 'presidential warning' system gets overused (and I'd estimate more than once every decade is overuse) then you've got a legitimate complaint. Emergency warnings seem to be one of the few areas that the government don't have a history of screwing up, so I'll grudgingly give them the benefit of the doubt here.

  8. Re:you'll find out a lot more than you bargained f by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Good evening, London. Allow me first to apologize for this interruption...

  9. Disable it by sv_libertarian · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wonder if there will be an easy way to disable the chip without ruining the whole phone, or perhaps in Android at least a software hack to completely turn it off. I don't want to get messages from .gov on my hardware without consenting to it.

    1. Re:Disable it by mtxmorph · · Score: 5, Informative

      I don't know where the article gets this "chip" idea from -- that is completely bogus.

      The system uses the standard cell broadcast system (CBS) as its backend, and most phones have supported that forever. It is basically an application which sits on top of CBS.

  10. Tinfoil hat time by Dunbal · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I wonder what other "features" this chip will have. In the land of the free, you are free to do as you are told.

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  11. NL has this on standard text messages by QuasiSteve · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Netherlands has such a system on standard text messages. The broadcasting agency in question simply selects what region to broadcast an SMS-alert to, and all cellphones within that region (basically the ones currently registered to given towers) get the SMS if the user signed up for the type of alert in question (though some can override, i.e. in case of major disaster.. say a chlorine spill).

    Before the text messages, they used a different system - the SMS-cell broadcast channels. Many older phones are capable of receiving these, but most users aren't signed up for the channels in question. Many newer phones don't even offer an interface to this anymore. Hence the switch to SMS.
    Most of the channels are also not used by providers in NL. They figured out that they could get more money by offering information for-pay, or letting for-pay SMS operators pay them, than giving the information for free. I.e. current local time, weather, etc. The only one that seems to be consistently available is channel 050; area code. Even though NL hardly has area code segmentation anymore, and certainly not for cellphones, it's still reported, and crossing into some other municipality does cause a cell broadcast notification on my older phone.

    Long story short - why do they want a separate chip, exactly?

    1. Re:NL has this on standard text messages by AndroSyn · · Score: 4, Informative

      Long story short - why do they want a separate chip, exactly?

      Nowhere on the fcc.gov site linked in the story does it say anything about phones requiring any sort of chip. Basically the important part of the system is the secure interface between government and the wireless providers. In short this is more like the EAS system, but for mobile phones. Chances are most network carriers *will* implement this over SMS.

  12. I hope it is a good design by wkk2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The messages need to be digitally signed or we are going to get spam claiming to be from the president. It also needs to be better designed than weather radios. For example, I can turn off thunderstorm watch alerts but not tornado watch alerts. I might understand requiring warnings but not watches. It cries wolf, in the middle of hot muggy nights, so often it gets turned off.

  13. Re:Government propaganda on a chip. by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 3, Insightful

    No shit. We have a "Department of Homeland Security" (without irony) cranking out this kind of shit every day. Because we must protect Der Vaterland from unnamed (foreign and domestic) evil menaces who want to kill us all. Hey, at least the Terror Level is permanently (only) "orange". I'm afraid if it ever gets to "red" we're going to have to start rounding up Japs, Jews and Gypsies - or at least keep a really really really close eye on them.

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  14. RAGE by OrangeTide · · Score: 3, Informative

    If they start testing it on my cellphone that often I'm going to pretty much go berserk.

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  15. Re:propaganda in your pocket! by inputdev · · Score: 4, Informative

    wow, scary, thanks for the history lesson, I knew Hitler was big into TV, etc., but I didn't know about this. The link didn't work for me, though: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volksempfanger
    I'm glad I'm not the only one that doesn't think this is "good for the people"

  16. No legitimate use by The+Man · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Can anyone come up with an example of a "national disaster" (i.e., a disaster affecting most or all of the contiguous United States) in which any significant part of the telephone network would still be functioning? Because I can't. All sub-extinction-level disasters are inherently regional and nearly all are local. As an example, Japan just suffered a colossal earthquake and 15-meter tsunami... and yet despite the catastrophic loss of life and property, nearly all major damage is confined to a few prefectures; many parts of the country didn't even feel it. And Japan is about the size of California.

    But go ahead, prove me wrong: come up with a disaster that takes out Miami and Seattle but leaves the phones intact.

  17. Yeah, fixed that for ya... by Panaflex · · Score: 4, Informative

    First off, there are no new chips required... this standard is designed to operate off existing 3gpp type interfaces over gsm/cdma/etc.. The standard is pretty open ended on the handset as far as protocols, only specifying that the message be presented in a an attention getting way.

    The interesting thing I think is how to secure the federal gateway... I'm guessing they'll use a dedicated frame relay from the federal CMAS system to the commercial gateways.

    These standards are being published by ANSI, they are J-STD-100, J-STD-101, J-STD-102. You may be able to find some of the documents on the 3gpp2.org web site.

    If you've got $850 bucks laying around, you can read all three interface specifications yourself below:
    Device presentation specs:
    http://webstore.ansi.org/RecordDetail.aspx?sku=J-STD-100

    Federal CMAS gateway specification (http specs):
    http://webstore.ansi.org/RecordDetail.aspx?sku=J-STD-101

    Federal CMAS gateway specification (testing specs):
    http://webstore.ansi.org/RecordDetail.aspx?sku=J-STD-102

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  18. I'm in my 40's and I remember getting by Nyder · · Score: 4, Informative

    no messages from the president that took over TV & Radio. Closes I've ever seen was when Reagen was shot, but that wasn't a message (well, it was a message to Reagen) to the people.

    Shit, the first Gulf War is probably the only thing I've ever seen that took over almost all the TV Stations.

    No, the president doesn't need a direct communicans with me. Never has, never will.

    If he needs me to fix his computer, he can call me like everyone else.

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  19. Re:What the? by AK+Marc · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'd see a separate vector against iconoclasts. Imagine if jailbreaking your phone was a federal felony because it could be used to block the required messages. Who needs to persecute some jailbreak groups if you can get the government to bust them for you and put them in jail, in addition to ordering the reparations you wanted.

  20. Re:Useful but invasive by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    People must think carefully about the power the government is giving itself there. I'm not saying people should be against it, just that if they approve of it they should at least realize the implications of this.

    The problem is...whatever power you give to this current government you like, you also give to the next government you don't like.
    And governments evolve and change. In the US, lately we've had Reagan-Bush-Clinton-Bush-Obama. Give Clinton some power, and its still there for Bush the Lesser to abuse. Grant Bush something, and its still there for Obama to use/abuse as he sees fit.

    Be wary of giving too much power to whatever current guy you like. The next guy may not use it to your liking.

  21. Re:Specificity by cbunix23 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I wonder what level of geographical specificity is possible? Hopefully this will broadcast to selected towers instead of selected phone numbers.

    I work on the Alcatel-Lucent product being used by AT&T, VZW, Sprint, and others. I've been involved with this product since day one. Alert areas can be as small as one cell, or it can be the entire United States. Target areas can be based on geocodes (states, counties, some cities, FEMA regions, NWS regions, and some others), polygons, circles. How FEMA and NWS end up using it is an open question, but I get the impression most of the alerts they will generate will go out at the county level. Just like the "tornado sirens" now. This may get refined over time to smaller areas as they gain experience with the system.