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Assange Handed Sydney Peace Medal

hihihihi writes "WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has been awarded the Sydney Peace Foundation's Gold Medal for 'exceptional courage in the pursuit of human rights.' It is only the fourth time in the organization's 14-year history that the prize for extraordinary achievement in promoting peace with justice has been given out. Previous winners are Nelson Mandela, the Dalai Lama and Japanese Buddhist leader Daisaku Ikeda. Foundation director Professor Stuart Rees accused the Australian government of demonizing Mr Assange and aiding US efforts to behave like a totalitarian state."

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  1. yes by unity100 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    contrary to what you arrogant and self-centered right wingers in america tend to think, the people around the world think good of assange since he is exposing the SHIT that u.s. perpetrates around the world, ranging from bullying germany to prevent prosecution of the cia agents who kidnapped german citizens and tortured them in syria, to bullying spanish government to put out 3 strikes law to censor people for american copyright interests.

    i find your disgust at exposition of such information, disgusting.

    now scram.

    1. Re:yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      That's because whilst America screams about free speech, justice, liberty and so forth the only thing America really actually stands for is hypocrisy.

      - Condemning countries who torture whilst torturing

      - Screaming about justice and liberty whilst performing detention without trial, extraordinary rendition, and having a long history of assassinations

      - Fining foreign firms for dodgy dealings whilst turning a blind eye to it's own

      - Touting the importants of the WTO and how everyone should join it and adhere to it's rulings whilst ignoring rulings by the WTO against it

      - Putting free speech at the centre of everything America claims to be about, whilst trying to silence the likes of Wikileaks

      - Talking about peace, whilst being the largest warmonger of the last 50 years

      - Complaining about terrorism whilst having a long history of having funded terrorists

      - Patriotic talk of how their military is the greatest, and making fun of countries like France for their military history, whilst having lost or at least definitely failed to win pretty almost every major war or military incursion they've been involved in since World War II (e.g. Korea, Vietnam, Lebanon, Somalia, Iraq x2, Afghanistan)

      - Talk about how China should stop polluting despite the fact China has far more investment, a far bigger programme, and a far better ratio of renewable energy use than the US and a third of oil use despite having over 4 times the population

      Really, the list goes on, the case with Assange and American attempts to supress Wikileaks is just one of many examples of American hypocrisy lost in a sea of such problems. Americans fear the rise of China, India and so forth and talk of how dangerous the rise of these countries are, when really, the only thing that's causing the decline of the US is it's own complete and utter hypocrisy and the knock on effects of that.

  2. Awarding the idea by jhoegl · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I like the fact that they are awarding the idea of open government and open corporatism, but what has been released that has been worth all the hub-bub?

    1. Re:Awarding the idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Iraq war documents, for example.

    2. Re:Awarding the idea by TemperedAlchemist · · Score: 3, Informative

      Showing how great of pains the US government goes through to prevent us from learning that their military doesn't live up to their propaganda.

    3. Re:Awarding the idea by aarggh · · Score: 3, Funny

      I like the fact that they are awarding the idea of open government and open corporatism, but what has been released that has been worth all the hub-bub?

      We could tell you but the U.S. gov would then probably have to kill you!

    4. Re:Awarding the idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      leaked diplomatic cables have been instrumental in the "arab spring"

    5. Re:Awarding the idea by mykos · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And if you think every other government doesn't do exactly the same thing, then you're a fucking retard.

      Everyone hiding secrets doesn't make hiding secrets the right thing to do, so you gotta start somewhere. Also, I don't think he claimed that nobody else was doing it.

    6. Re:Awarding the idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Showing how great of pains the US government goes through to prevent us from learning that their military doesn't live up to their propaganda.

      And if you think every other government doesn't do exactly the same thing, then you're a fucking retard.

      There is a scale of 1 to 10. Most countries is somewhere around 3, but USA, North Korea, Libya and some other countries is set to 11.

    7. Re:Awarding the idea by sortius_nod · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Exactly. Add to this that the US has dragged other nations into their criminal wars. More people have died at the hands of US forces committing war crimes than any other nation over the last two decades.

      Again, this is not to say other countries aren't doing this, but to claim that taking down Sadam for gassing 30 000 people by killing more than 10 fold people is fine is just wrong.

      I know I'll get modded down by the US patriots, but war crimes are war crimes. No escaping it, no matter how just you think they are.

    8. Re:Awarding the idea by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Informative

      Wait, what? What propaganda haven't they lived up to that was revealed by Wikileaks? As far as I can tell, the worst thing the military has done in the current campaigns was the Abu Ghraib scandal. I like reading Wikileaks stuff, but it seems to me that anyone who pays attention to the news and such will have a good idea of what the US military is capable of, and what it is doing. Some people were surprised by the Wikileaks releases, but that's because they don't pay attention.

      That said, I really liked reading about US diplomats opinions of French racial issues. Or Yemen's attempts to take credit for US actions. Stuff like that is really fun to read.

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    9. Re:Awarding the idea by AGMW · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What about them?

      Maybe I got it all wrong, but in amongst all the info exposed, didn't US forces kill a couple of Reuters reporters? Didn't they lie about it? Didn't they say there wasn't any film of the incident when approached (FOI request) for the footage? Didn't that footage then miraculously appear? Ditto for a number of 'friendly fire' incidents?

      Accidents happen, and when you're at war they can be bad, but you don't lie and cover it up or it's far more difficult to work out what happened to try and stop it happening again! It's like a four year old saying "it wasn't me", then wikileaks pointing out the chocolate all around your mouth!

      Now the US (and others!) are trying to make Wikileaks out to be the bad guy - continuing the analogy, the US is saying "yer, but Wikileaks smells of wee!".

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    10. Re:Awarding the idea by rainmouse · · Score: 2, Informative

      And if you think every other government doesn't do exactly the same thing, then you're a fucking retard.

      True, but consider that Bush quite freely admits that God told him to invade Iraq and that it was a holy crusade. Shame God couldn't also tell him there were no WMD there. The fact that a Country with frequently elects religious fundamentalist presidents who genuinely believe invisible men are telling them to invade other nations, also has enough nuclear weapons to extinguish all life on the planet. Yes this deserves some serious scrutiny and a man willing to risk his freedom and his life exposing the dirty things their military and global corporations get up to does actually deserve some kind of recommendation.

      Now read through this staggeringly long list of military engagements and consider how many of them were necessary :- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_United_States_military_operations#2000.E2.80.932009

      http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/bush-god-told-me-to-invade-iraq-509925.html

    11. Re:Awarding the idea by metacell · · Score: 4, Informative

      The Iraq war documents exposed that the number of civilians killed had been downplayed by the US military. If we are going to safeguard human rights, we first need to know the truth.

      The "Cablegate" documents showed that my own country's toughened copyright legislation was due to pressures from the USA.

      One of Wikileaks' most recent leaks exposed child slavery and prostitution in Saudi Arabia, which the Saudian government denies exists.

    12. Re:Awarding the idea by metacell · · Score: 2

      What propaganda haven't they lived up to that was revealed by Wikileaks?
      The US military likes to pretend their strikes are very precise and kills few civilians. The Afghan and Iraq war documents show that they fail to disclose many civilian deaths.

  3. Articles about revelations by traindirector · · Score: 5, Informative

    what has been released that has been worth all the hub-bub?

    Here's an article listing some of the revelations from 2010.

  4. The real question is - by Black+Parrot · · Score: 5, Funny

    Did he know before they announced it?

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  5. Sydney says: Me too! by donscarletti · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So it's been around 14 years, so basically before Assange it has only awarded one prize to someone who did not already have a nobel peace prize at the time of the award. Having grown up in Sydney I have got to say I am pretty uninterested in this me-too institution. Since I doubt many Australians will do anything worthy of the attention of the Norweigian government or whoever awards these things, maybe starting with Assange they can make it a sort of domestic competition with lesser criteria.

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    1. Re:Sydney says: Me too! by Jeek+Elemental · · Score: 3, Funny

      The nobel peace prize committee is chosen by norwegian parliament but is otherwise independent.
      I have no idea how Obama got it tho, maybe it was to show they have a sense of humour.

      Id say Wikileaks, Assange and Manning would be worthy recipients.

  6. Bradley Manning? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm just saying.

  7. Re:must be a by Hazel+Bergeron · · Score: 2

    A. Different brains?
    B. Different culture?
    C. Favouritism?

    Unfortunately, racists on either side are quick to highlight A or C. I'm not so fanatically politically correct that I'm going to dismiss A (we don't really know enough about the brain nor have we devised any suitable tests to determine) and C (it is human nature to support your own group, so if one group is already well established it might foster further success for that same group), but maybe there's quite a lot of B.

    I mean, why are such a great proportion of students at Oxbridge from private schools? Could it be because the parents who have given their children a private education have tried to prioritise good education? We're not saying that every parent has the means to do that, but neither does every Jewish family have the means: all you need is significantly more Jewish families to want to prioritise their children's education, some of whom will also have the means to action their want, for them to end up overrepresented in some professional field. This sort of sentiment is cultural, passed down through families and community groups. It is a spirit perhaps to be learnt from, though perhaps not adopted wholesale: a graduate from a top university is just as likely to become a wanker banker as a life-enhancing scientist.

  8. Re:Hateful and Evil Organization by mcvos · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There's a big difference between hating Jews and hating an oppressive regime. Not all Jews support Israel. I think that deserves to be pointed out every once in a while.

  9. Re:Hateful and Evil Organization by TheMiddleRoad · · Score: 2, Informative

    So you're saying Israel is a repressive regime? Do you know anything about the Middle East or the world for that matter? I bet you view Israel as a far greater problem area than Syria, but Syria is the one that has a repressive regime. Israel has a Democracy with citizens of all religions. Homosexuals can walk the streets holding their lover's hand without getting stoned to death. Christians don't run in terror from angry mobs, expect in the West Bank and Gaza. What an unusual repressive regime.

  10. Manning? by muffen · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Bradley E. Manning should get this price, he is the real hero. He put his life on the line to release this information, what did Assange risk?
    Manning was held naked in a prison cell without windows for 23 hours a day, Assange won't even go to Sweden to face the charges for sex-crimes (not even after being assured he will not be sent to any other country without britains concent).

    1. Re:Manning? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Assange won't even go to Sweden to face the charges for sex-crimes (not even after being assured he will not be sent to any other country without britains concent (sic) ).

      There are no charges.

    2. Re:Manning? by LordLucless · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not to disagree with you on Manning being a hero, but why should the criteria be how much they "risked" rather than how much they accomplished? Wikileaks has released more than just Manning's material.

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      Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean there isn't an invisible demon about to eat your face
  11. Re:Hateful and Evil Organization by mcvos · · Score: 3, Insightful

    But it also kicks families out of the house where they've lived for generations. It built a wall that separates farmers from their fields. Israel goes out of its way to disrupt the lives of normal Palestinian families. It's not oppressive to the people it likes, but it is oppressive to the people it oppresses. The fact that there are also people who are not oppressed by the Israeli government doesn't change this simple fact.

  12. Irony by lyinhart · · Score: 2

    How ironic. I have varying opinions on all the past recipients named, but all of them have actually been the center of conflicts, more so than defusing them. So in retrospect, Al Gore winning the Nobel Peace Prize wasn't such a bad idea since most folks agree on global warming and don't launch armed conflicts about the issue.

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  13. Swedish Court System - A medieval political circus by FriendlyLurker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The Sweden "court system" for this issue is almost a regular medieval political circus. Look at what Sweden has all but promised Assange in his "fair" trial: Solitary confinement before trial without access to his lawyers. Closed door secret court - no one will hear let alone be able to refute any testimonies. Three of the four judges to be (or appointed by) politicians! Not to forget that the case was closed before being reopened by, you guessed it, a politician - apparently because they say the girls did not know they were being raped at the time and it is up-to their court of laypersons to decide (I kid you not, crazy system Sweden has, huh). The rabbit hole of deceit by Swedish authorities goes way deeper than most would like to see however - in this case starting with the Swedish prosecutor Marianne Ny, lawyer Mr Claes Borgström and their relationship with the Swedish Democrat party which stands to gain from this circus.

    Who in the right mind would not try to fight for a fairer trial than this? I don't care if it is Assange or anyone else, Sweden should be ashamed of these "courts", if you can even call them that.

    The only good thing coming out of this abuse is the increased scrutiny on the very broken European extradition laws - and perhaps some Swedish rethinking their leaders (although the last election shows this to be unlikely).

  14. Re:About as meaningful... by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2

    Why would you compare the two? Obama did nothing to deserve a Nobel peace prize (and most disappointingly, still hasn't since) unless you count bringing grammar back to the White House. Assange has actually done things to further world peace, whether you agree with the means or not. The two are not comparable.

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  15. Re:Swedish Court System - A medieval political cir by Co0Ps · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm Swedish and this is 100% accurate, +100 Insightful. The Swedish justice system is a huge embarrassment and completely broken. Hopefully this case will shed some light on it so it can be fixed.

    You also forgot to mention two other interesting facts of Claes Borgström, both of which you can find in his Wikipedia article. First of all he was the attorney of Thomas Quick, a case that is one of the biggest scandals in Swedish justice history. Basically Quick was mental and admitted to a whole bunch of murders he never committed and was sentenced guilty without a shred of evidence. Secondly Claes Borgström is an extreme left wing feminist nutjob that thinks men has a "collective guilt" against women and should pay a special tax for being men.

  16. Re:History is written by the winners. by intheshelter · · Score: 2

    The US went into Vietnam because we were asked by FRANCE, who wanted to keep their little Asian colonial empire, which was rapidly ending as Vietnam was struggling for independence.

    And no, he's not saying that 9/11 is the same as Vietnam, what he's saying is that we in American are a bunch of hypocrites. If someone does something to us, it's terrorrism, if we bomb the shit out of someone else, it's liberation. If we repel people attacking us we are heroes, if someone else does it it's terrorism. If someone captures our servicemen we expect humane treatment, if we capture one of theirs we torture them at guantanamo.

    You can't have it both ways. We should not have been in Vietnam. We should not have been in Kuwait. We should not have been in Irag. Those last two things alone are what pissed of the Islamic nutjobs (American boots in their holy land) and caused them to plan and execute 9/11. Everyone else in the world looks at us and sees our hypocrisy. Most Americans are too busy waving the flag at the monster truck show to look deeply at how our country is behaving and face the harsh realities that we are not the world leaders in morality, justice and freedom that we like to think we are.

  17. Re:Hateful and Evil Organization by nomadic · · Score: 2

    You are incredibly dishonest, and profoundly ignorant of history. Anyone who equates criticism of the government of Israel with antisemitism is either a fool or a liar.

  18. Re:WHO THE FUCK DOES HE THINK HE IS? by Kagura · · Score: 2

    Really? Let's try this. U.S.A. is Number One!!