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Kaspersky Calls For 'Internet Interpol'
angry tapir writes "With cybercrime now the second largest criminal activity in the world, measures such as the creation of an 'Internet Interpol' and better cooperation between international law enforcement agencies are needed if criminals are to be curtailed in the future, Kaspersky Labs founder and security expert Eugene Kaspersky has argued. He said, 'We were talking about that 10 years ago and almost nothing has happened. Sooner or later we will have one. I am also talking about Internet passports and having an online ID. Some countries are introducing this idea, so maybe in 15 years we will all have it.'"
we all lose privacy so that the fucktards can pretend they're a little bit 'safer' from their own idiocy.
fuck 'internet passports' and 'online ids'. it's time for citizens to quit being chickenshits or eventually everything you do will be tracked back to this. this is different than the past because electronic surveillance completely erodes the natural privacy one has in the physical world. I don't want my every click, every download, every page hit recorded for some bored cop to puruse 20 years after the fact so it can be judged on current standards...all to meet a quota.
what are you talking about? The "internet ID" and "internet passport" become items of intense personal value that must be protected. The stakes will be even higher to protect your papers under a "papers, please." internet.
Can you be Even More Awesome?!
Instead of continually beating our heads on securing systems and people, let's remove the profit motive. If we fundamentally change how financial transactions are executed, security will becomes less of a problem.
Get the requirements for security out of Windows, and put it into trusted bank-issued smart cards. Separate authentication from authorization from identification. Build system that humans can manually verify without a Windows box being the portal through which this verification happens.
John
Wow, I'm afraid I have to conclude this guys is possibly a little too full of himself.
If we ever get anywhere near a "single secure cyberspace", we're pretty much all screwed.
Governments will use this to stifle your privacy, your rights, and every other thing they can think of. They'll make sure they monitor everything you do, and ensure you don't do anything they don't approve of.
Anybody who thinks the solution to cybercrime is to more or less lock down the internet like this ... well, I think they deserve a series of well placed kicks to the groin. I can only see this as more or less fascism -- though I'm sure I'll be accused of hyperbole.
Lost at C:>. Found at C.
I really want a button ... that brings up a full trace to the person who initiated the message...
You and Gaddafi both.
-- "Oh. This guy again."
That's what interpol's job is supposed to do in the first place in all forms. Coordinate police dept's and services around the world. The real problem isn't so much that police don't talk, it's that the governments don't give them the resources to deal with internet related crime. In Canada, financial crimes under $200k are done on a case by case basis, by local dept's or by the provincial police, if there's enough officers available to take them off traditional crimes. Financial crimes over $250k are looked at only by the RCMP, and the RCMP will not take any case under $200k due to the lack of manpower and resources. And financial crimes under $40k are pretty much written off unless there are officers available. That's not even touching on the training.
It's a sad state, but the problem is three fold. First people don't think you need more police. The average citizen to cop ratio is between 100:1 and 750:1, though in some parts of the US it's 4000:1. Second, while a lot of younger cops(that's under 40 as the average age here is around 45), see this as an issue but not a pressing one(too much traditional crime, and staff sgt's who have too few resources, or too few inspectors for the job and are on other cases). Third, politics and bureaucratic BS. There are either weak laws, no laws, a mishmash of laws, or politicians and chiefs stuck in 30-40 year old thinking.
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We were talking about that 10 years ago and almost nothing has happened. Sooner or later we will have one.
Nothing has happened because we the fucking people don't want it to happen. We the Geeks responsible for implementing these BS control-freak fantasies for Big Brother don't want it to happen. We the citizens of a planet rapidly coming to recognize the meaninglessness of national borders don't want our rights to depend on those available in the most restrictive theocratic dictatorship on the planet.
Nothing will happen because, for all its flaws, we designed the internet to survive government attempts to control it.
you want the rest of us to give up privacy AND take on the mantle of defending an online id that will automatically be considered legitimate by governmental bureaucracies just so you don't have a large spam folder? Wow..
Right now, any safety we have online is the fact that online ids are not taken seriously..
With cybercrime now the second largest criminal activity in the world
Seriously? Way to use vague, scary words to say absolutely nothing.
better cooperation between international law enforcement agencies are needed if criminals are to be curtailed
Why do I get the feeling that large American and European corporations will be the ones to benefit most from this "international law enforcement"?
Anytime Yevgeny Kaspersky profers his advice on how internet security should work, it should be remembered that he is a former KGB officer.
This is really allow about making it easier for States to control what people do online.
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Bingo. Someone manages to get ahold of someone's "internet credentials" can go to town, and the owner of the creds would be nailed, both civilly and criminally for this.
Remember, we have people who are unable to tell the difference between an IP address and a person. Think about the havoc someone can reach with forged credentials.
Of course, this would make the AV company fear campaigns be able to go up a notch by telling people the consequences of someone stealing their "internet passport", and how consumers need their CPU-hogging, OS-crashing, I/O intercepting, expensive [1] crap, when in reality, something like AdBlock is what actually will get the job done.
[1]: $30 to $50 per computer per year. There is just no real point to paying that, unless you have a business, and if you have a business, you should use ForeFront or SEP which doesn't care about subscriptions.
I guess an optimistic paranoid is hoping that the next security technology is better than the one before, but never really trusting anything or anyone.
There are numerous unknown enemies out there trying to get me, and my known enemies (such as the merger of govt and big business being given 1984 style tools of oppression) would of course do awful things, but its always possible to optimistically define something worse that isn't (yet) happening.
"Science flies us to the moon. Religion flies us into buildings." - Victor Stenger
...we bring the Information into the Government Age!
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Last time I checked, the majority of the criminal activity on the internet was perpetrated by Governments... what good would creating an international agency to patrol criminal activity when it would have to report to the criminals themselves?
As someone who's livelihood comes from the prosecution of child porn, you have no idea.
First off, child porn is something that can be prosecuted. The botnet creator in Romania cannot be prosecuted and is actively being protected by their government. No point in trying to go after them.
Then there are the credit card theives. They get your number and use it and you have to ... cancel the card. Well, because you're not out anything, the merchant has insurance and the credit card companies don't want to prosecute there is no point. So nobody is going after them either.
Then there are the folks selling fake pills and claiming to be in Canada when they are really in Indonesia. Well, if the Indonesian government isn't interested and is likely going to shield them, there isn't any way to go after them.
It goes on an on. Either there is nobody to prosecute or it is happening across borders with a disinterested government at the other end. The FBI has plenty of weight to throw around, but before they bring all of their focus on some international perp everyone needs to be on board with it being the "right" target - and that is very difficult to achieve. Unless of course the guy is out there on IRC bragging.
Well, I guess that leaves child porn and a few other things, like massive copyright violation. That is the day for an FBI forensic examiner. Mostly it is child porn because there is so much of it out there and nobody wants to stand up for someone involved in it. Especially when they start taking pictures and distributing them, which is how many people are caught. Forgetting to turn off the geotagging on your iPhone can be really, really embarassing. Especially when you answer the doorbell and find an FBI agent with a GPS receiver saying "Yes, it was right here" to his partner.
... that I can certainly guarantee;
Is a system so secure and able to identify you, that it CANNOT allow for crimes to be committed.
Reasonable security is good. But we want a system that NEEDS the will of the governed. If people are treated fairly -- and there is a system in place where Identity can MANUALLY be ascertained, than real security is through the GOOD WILL of the people.
Also, you need people who react, rather than waiting for some authority to come by -- but that's another discussion.
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We already have a structure in place for law enforcement across borders we just need for them to have the tools they need to work in "cyberspace"
I just wonder why Interpol does not have
1 a facebook group
2 a set of twitter accounts
3 a region in SecondLife
im sure that the companies involved would be more than happy to certify that these accounts are actually held by the REAL agents.
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Lady Gaga commented that cybercrime also is one of her concerns. There you go, that will pull in a few more search-engine hits.
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