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New Bill Ups Punishment For Hosts of Infringing Video Streams

halfEvilTech writes "Two months ago, the Obama administration asked Congress to make illicit online streaming of copyrighted movies and TV shows a felony. Such a bill has now been introduced by two senators. 'Online streamers can now face up to five years in prison and a fine in cases where: They show 10 or more "public performances" by electronic means in any 180-day period; and the total retail value of those performances tops $2,500 or the cost of licensing such performances is greater than $5,000.'"

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  1. I'd support this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If every-time a major corporation leaked my personal data (HI Sony!) they were faced with this same penalty. Per record leaked.

  2. Re:WTF? by Samalie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Simple. They have the money to buy politicians. We don't.

    And lets face it, in a 2-party system, there is no way in hell activists like us are going to get big 2 party nominations without taking the money from the lobbyists that we would thereby be bound to serve their corporate overlord interests.

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  3. Re:Well.. by cpu6502 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't think civil v. criminal is as cut-and-dried as you think. If it was, people would not be thrown into prison for smoking a naturally-growing green plant.

    The US Constitution (unfortunately) gives the US power to grant monopolies to artists and inventors. Wouldn't infringement on that monopoly be a criminal offense against the US Government?

    I think Jefferson had the right idea with his version of the Bill of Rights. He limited the monopoly to ___ years which he suggested should be 14. I agree. If you can't make money off your product during its first 14 years of existence, then too bad. Time to put it in the public domain for the benefit of ALL the people.

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  4. Re:WTF? by houstonbofh · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not downloading does not solve the problems of intrusive laws, required record keeping, and misdirected lawsuits.

  5. Re:WTF? by hoggoth · · Score: 5, Insightful

    > not even artificial life-support by governments can buy much more than a temporary stay of execution
    > I suspect, in twenty years, RIAA, the MPAA and all these ever-increasingly harsh laws will be history

    You are half right. In twenty years the RIAA and MPAA may be history... but those laws giving large corporations and the government the power to monitor everything we do and punish any individual or small business that gets in their way... they will never give up those laws.

    And THAT is why Congress is letting the RIAA and MPAA push them around. It's an excuse for both parties to get what they want.
    The same thing is going on with the "terrorism" industry.

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  6. This is ridiculous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Things I can do that will get me in less trouble than pirating a movie:

    Shoplifting the movie
    Shoplifting the movie and stabbing the manager on my way out
    Executing neighborhood pets in the street while neighbors watch
    Dealing small amounts of drugs to children

    Well, at least now I have some options for the weekend that will get me out of the house. Thank god I'm not hurting the country by stealing a movie

  7. Re:WTF? by camperdave · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Simple. They have the money to buy politicians. We don't.

    And lets face it, in a 2-party system, there is no way in hell activists like us are going to get big 2 party nominations without taking the money from the lobbyists that we would thereby be bound to serve their corporate overlord interests.

    It's only a two party system if the parties have differing points of view. If the parties are both in favour of it, then what you have is a one party system.

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  8. Re:Ugh by ALeavitt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I know the Democrats are screwing up here. As a card carrying Dem I'll apologize for my people. Something that would help us help you though is if we could get a more solid base. The Dems are running scared, and they're pandering to Hollywood just to get enough money to fight the good fight.

    So we should vote for a party that is willing to compromise its ideals on the vague promise that once they have enough power they will suddenly grow morals?

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  9. Re:WTF? by Alex+Belits · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why can't that beacon of democracy, the USA, manage to do it?

    USA is a "beacon of democracy" due to complete subversion of democracy in it.

    I would go further with that, and say that democracy is now completely worthless and its implementation should not be attempted or supported anywhere on its own, because US politicians demonstrated to the whole world how to effectively defeat it and build what amounts to a feudal society while keeping all attributes of democratic institutions and process. It's has an unfixable security bug with known exploit.

    At best, "democracy" is now a minor, and optional, part that can be used to implement all kinds of societies -- oppressive or otherwise -- and people should stop sheepishly repeat US propaganda that promotes it as a cure for all social and economic ills.

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  10. Re:Ugh by wierd_w · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Excuse me. I have had my fill of the "Democrat" this and "Republican" that argument. It is tired, useless posturing.

    The democratic national party has done what every political body has done since the organization of large government; it has arranged things to secure itself a profitable future. Pandering to it in the hopes of getting a scrap of meat on the bones thrown down is truly pathetic. Same goes for the republican GOP.

    Here's an idea. Stop voting along party lines.
    Having the "wrong" letter under their name is not grounds to exculde a candidate, nor to blanket vote.

    In fact-- Totally ignore that little letter under their names, because in the end it really is only there to distract you. Instead, vote for candidates based on their political histories, and corporate affiliation statuses (EG, if they are a corporate shill, they are a corporate shill, and DO NOT deserve your vote, regardless of what that little letter under their name is.)

    I am SICK TO FUCKING DEATH of hearing "apologies" from little Ds and little Rs about what the big Ds and big Rs are doing, spewing false hope that "If only you vote for OUR guys" things will get better. They wont. There is no incentive for things to get better for anyone other than the corporations and their hired shills, the very representatives we are arguing over.

    Here's an idea-- Instead of providing support to the people who are trying to kill us normal citizens at the behest of the monied elite, why dont we just let them die? They are losing support you say? GOOD! BOTH parties need to die.

    The US *REALLY* needs a parlamentary system with many more than 2 parties involved, where the party status is determined by percentage of popular voter registration. We need to eliminate the "Independant" registration status, and make it what it really should be: A whole new fertile list of political affiliation choices.

    Voting for the lesser of two evils is STILL VOTING FOR MORE EVIL.

    GAHH!

  11. ITT: by Legal.Troll · · Score: 0, Insightful

    a bunch of brain-dead idiots get modded +5 (Insightful) for their infantile gurgling. No one is surprised.

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