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Sony Music Greece Falls To Hackers
xsee writes "Hackers: 6, Sony: 0. It appears an attacker has performed a SQL injection attack against SonyMusic.gr. The latest attack has exposed usernames, real names, email addresses and more. Is Sony's network being used as the world's largest public penetration test?"
The most preventable of all security holes. How sad.
Isnt every network exposed to the public (esp. mid size or larger commercial ones) continously under attempted attack?
Years of half baked products, poor reliability, hostile customer service, lazy innovation, and a general disdain for security are what your customers have had to deal with. I really don't care who is doing it to you or why - but I applaud them teaching you the hard lessons of the evolving technological age. You can't keep repeatedly flipping people the finger anymore and tell them to deal with it. Evolve or die. And no, my loathing isn't related to just the recent PS3 debacle. It extends to experiences with consumer audio, professional theatrical projection equipment, and so on right down the line. The fact that you're being taken out by the simplest of attacks in most cases just makes my smile grow a little more.
Well at least they are consistent - none of their systems seem to have more than basic security.
K Man
In this case....I don't feel sorry for anyone doing business with sony. From my point of view, they made their bed, now they get to lay in it.
They decided that since people download stuff anyways, might as well save on the bandwidth and store it locally. Any time you download a file its mirrored in the cafes file server, so others can copy it without having to re-download.
And if you dont go that route, you can buy bootleg copies from any number of African immigrants on the street for just a few euro. Many times for better quality than available in stores for retail price.
The linked article also provides a screen shot with obscured personal information.
It appears the passwords are stored in plain text, not as hash: formatting makes it unclear but it seems the length varies, and the password fields are short (6-10 characters or so), while hashes are much longer than that.
Bad bad security! No wonder they also fall victim to the age-old SQL injection attack... which I thought most SQL interface libraries can automatically intercept by adding the appropriate escaping... many years ago I used Pythons MySQLdb and they were doing that for very very long already... so there should be no excuse for allowing this to happen still.
It maybe a problem for users but this is a serious wakeup call to said users, no your data is not as safe as you think it is when you are handing it over to all these companies, its about time the cracks were shown to customers and just how slack these companies can be in keeping their protocols and systems running correctly. I am still laughing, im not a sony fan in any way, shape or form, obviously its bad its happening but its hilarious that a company this big has such lax security and is being exposed on an almost daily basis.
No, every other scriptkiddie is just joining in on teh lulz of flogging the dead horse. "ZOMG I sql injectioned a SONY site! Yeah, it's got nothing to do with PS3 or PSN, and yeah it's some site in Greece, but lulz amirite!?"
It's even in the bloody article, isn't it?
I mean.. honestly?
They could be running this against $random_site and try to hit the news with it, too.. but they wouldn't.. because nobody cares about a random hack at a random site right now.. but if it's got SONY attached to it.. well.. lulz rules the news.
None of which excuses the poor security.. but none of which excuses the submitter from his choice of words either.
SONY now knows 1 good thing from this: How to stop it from happening again on this and other sites/domains they own & host websites from.
How to stop this particular attack.
Available evidence suggests they have no shortage of dailyWTF-worthy screwups that people can continue to exploit.
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I suspect that it will be a while before we see a real fix to the SQL injection problem as well.
It's called a paramterized query and pretty much every language on the planet supports this mechanism.
SQL injection is mostly a solved problem, except for programmers.
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So your saying, by doing this they're going to drive customers away from Sony, reduce their income stream, and eventually remove them from the world of global commerce?
Wow, that sounds...terrible
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean there isn't an invisible demon about to eat your face
No more than HB Gary was.
To wit: This is the prescription for being attacked mercilessly, for months on end:
At that point you will discover what sort of damage a bunch of really pissed off top notch programmers can do.
With luck all the other psychopathic mega corporations around the world are watching and learning. The lesson is simple: don't poke a hornets nest.
Honestly is this really that much worse than when Sony decides to vandalize customer equipment?
One of the first things you learn about web programming is to clean any string a user touches. If there's even a remote possibility that a user submitted something, clean it before putting it in your query. How is it even possible that someone would be given money for web programming before learning this? That's not even a rhetorical question; I'm genuinely interested in the answer.
It's cheaper not to hire or pay for information security.
And when they do they probably don't hire the best. Let's face it, Sony is not innocent and I could care less what happens to Sony. I don't own Sony stock, I don't work for Sony, and I don't own any Sony products except for an old PSX. So I just don't care what happens to Sony.
Maybe other companies will now give a shit about information security.
ohh, wait I have to say something about this!!!!
I was in a bank once, while it was being robed! Ok, it wasn't the nicest experience I ever had and I might have been inconvenienced a bit.
Did I lose the money I had in the bank? No.
Did I loose the info I had stored in it? No.
Did I manage to do the jobs I had with the bank? Yes, I just went to another branch.
So if you are going to create a service infrastructure that hasn't enough failsaves and backup plans to deal with a simple digital break in then you damn well deserve to be reduced to the economic equivalent of decarbonized organic material... And all people who trusted your Services (including Yours truly) deserve a very big refund for your incompetence and a big slap in the face for being such fools!
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ftfy
It's heading rapidly towards the level of incompetence that the rootkit fiasco was...
It would be funny if the vulnerability that was exploited came from that very rootkit, installed by some unsuspecting employee putting a Sony CD into the computer ...
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I know you were trying to make a joke, but since about 2-3 weeks ago, if I click my username in the top right, I get "The user you requested does not exist, no matter how much you wish this might be the case. "
It's just a theory, but I think the != in the middle of my username has something to do with it.
This sentence no verb.