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Muon Suite To Be Kubuntu's Software Center
mukt77 writes "The Muon Suite has been chosen to be the default package manager for Kubuntu 11.10, the Oneiric Ocelot. By the time Kubuntu 11.10 is released the Muon Suite will have had its first birthday. In this year I believe that the Muon Suite has vetted itself, proving to be a robust package manager as well as a stable set of applications. With my Kubuntu developer hat on, I believe that it was a good move to wait a bit before jumping on the 'latest and greatest' for its shininess value, though I can't deny that it would have been neat to have the Muon Suite included a bit sooner."
This is needed. The package management in Kubuntu has always been half-baked compared to its Gnome-based counterpart.
Now if they could just make the other system utilities as robust as the ones in Ubuntu...
There's no -1 for "I don't get it."
dunno, i always install synaptic on a Kubuntu system. pity its a Gtk app and drags lots of Gnome stuff in,
i cant stand Gnome or Gtk - its too dumbed down and old fashioned looking for me, so, a new QT app,
will be a welcome improvement.. about time Kubuntu got some preference anyway.. hope Muon has a good search..
Just went to download Kbuntu as I haven't used a KDE environment for a while, and figured I'd stick it on an older laptop. I hit up the download page, and after selecting the version and 32-bit, I click "Begin Download" in Chrome.. and nothing happens!
Still a feature-starved sparse looking uninspired clone of USC (which still has a kludgey unfinished feel), copying the abysmal rating system. Desktop linux could benefit greatly from a decent App Store.
I really wish developers would actually take a look at competitors are doing and get some inspiration.
Taking a look at, for example: Mac App Store, Android Market web store, Intel's App-up, Chrome Web App store, even AllMyApps for windows is a good one to look at. Even Linux Mint's App portal is a good effort.
Linux has had good package management and delivery for a long long time, all it's been missing is a good, navigable and appealing front end for it.
After logging in slashdot still does not take you back to the page you were on. It's been that way for 20 years.
do you know what a muon is?
Change the spelling of what? 'Muon' is in fact a perfectly valid English word as can be seen in e.g. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/muon :
muon [mjun]
n
(Physics / General Physics) a positive or negative elementary particle with a mass 207 times that of an electron and spin ½. It was originally called the mu meson but is now classified as a lepton.
How about 'Moon Unit'?
Muon Suite isn't quite a "package manager" so much as it is a graphical interface to apt/dpkg.
Never eat more than you can lift -- Miss Piggy
distros keep neglecting the fact there are lots of people out there who don't speak English, and while you can install the language packages, package descriptions are in English.
The only distribution I know that supports translated packages descriptions is Pardus... BTW I don't know if even apt/deb or rpm/yum support translations...
Good lord! Enough with package managers/packaging systems/new frontends.. They're like paint programs in Linux. 15 half-assed ones but not one single great one, because every developer with NIH feels like he has to create another one because 'nobody else has these features.' ENOUGH ALREADY! at this point, it has nothing to do with choice and everything to do with developer ego and NIH.
It's just a frigging package manager/frontend/system. Can we get past this already?!?!?!?!
Seriously, this is why Vista's failure didn't hurt Microsoft. Linux devs are too busy reinventing the wheel every 6 months. Devs will get 80% there and then stop and then all the other devs decide they know a better way to do it, and they get (if they're lucky) 80% there and stop. rinse and repeat.
And don't give me that "If you don't like it, you don't have to use it." Now instead of 15 half-assed ones, we have 16 half-assed ones. Kubuntu will use it, no one else will, and users have to learn yet another interface.
Ugh, I need a drink.
So, no?
sic transit gloria mundi
KDE seems to suffer terribly from re-writer's disease. They'll write a good piece of software, possibly lacking a few features and a bit buggy in places. Rather than polish it and fill in the gaps, they nearly always decider to write something Newer and Better.
Almost invariably the new application won't be the latter, because immature software tends to lack a few features and be a bit buggy in places.
I still prefer KDE to Gnome, and Kubuntu is my main desktop, but I really wish the developers would settle down and get a bit less skittish.
Never trust a man in a blue trench coat, Never drive a car when you're dead
I thought 'They're putting their FTP site computers down an abandoned mine full of particle detectors? That's sort of cool, but why?'
I suppose it says something about me that I find 'muon' a more recognizable word than "suite".
Quattuor res in hoc mundo sanctae sunt: libri, liberi, libertas et liberalitas.
Is there a reason for this to be here still?
I find the product to be fairly robust and the developer has been pretty darned responsive - I had enough issues with 11.04 that I went back to Debian, but I digress ;-)
synaptic is still my go-to gooey package manager. Functionally I don't think synaptic is any better than muon and I'm not sure whether it's my own prejudices or the GUI really could use a little help, but I find muon a bit more difficult to use than synaptic. IMO GUI design is an art form anyway - and not a skill that all developers possess ;-)
I have no problem running GTK+ apps in KDE but know a few people who do - I've never been one of those "pure KDE" people.
I think muon's a great effort - and kudos to the developer, who's pretty quick to answer questions.
we see things not as as they are, but as we are.
-- anais nin
man, did i wake up on the wrong side of a time travel machine?
if we let people have any old package they want, it would be total anarchy! chaos! disorder!
i do not think i exaggerate when i say that this so called freedom to choose the packages on one's system is the common argument of the terrorist.
All work on KDE should stop immediately and until KDE Network Manager Widget is rewritten from scratch, and the people responsible for the current version banned from any sort of software development more complex than Hello World. I wish, so much, that I was wrong or exaggerating.
"If God created us in his own image we have more than reciprocated." - Voltaire
parent++;
First thing I do on a new KDE installation is install wicd, even on wired connections. network-manager is just awful.
we see things not as as they are, but as we are.
-- anais nin
Not only does Linux have the mother of all "App Stores" forever, no, that mother is also still mentally healthy
Assume for a moment that the user can figure out 1. that the commands are eix and emerge and 2. how to navigate to man eix and man emerge. Now how does your Linux "app store" handle payment for apps that by their nature can't very well be free? Google gentoo emerge payment didn't turn up anything useful.
Network Manager (and to a lesser extent HALdaemon and everything it touches) is a half-baked abomination.
I run Gnome and I have never seen a version of NM that worked well with more than three specific hardware configurations - presumably, the three that a single developer had in hand when he committed the version that shipped.
Yes.
No! So?
It's totally awesome how the linked article tells you that you can install it with:
apt-get install muon
apt-get install muon-installer