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Muon Suite To Be Kubuntu's Software Center

mukt77 writes "The Muon Suite has been chosen to be the default package manager for Kubuntu 11.10, the Oneiric Ocelot. By the time Kubuntu 11.10 is released the Muon Suite will have had its first birthday. In this year I believe that the Muon Suite has vetted itself, proving to be a robust package manager as well as a stable set of applications. With my Kubuntu developer hat on, I believe that it was a good move to wait a bit before jumping on the 'latest and greatest' for its shininess value, though I can't deny that it would have been neat to have the Muon Suite included a bit sooner."

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  1. Re:Good! by russlar · · Score: 3, Interesting

    the KDE3 version of Adept was good. But yeah, they never had one for KDE4. The KPackageKit GUI from 9.04 was a mess, and actually drove me to SUSE

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  2. Not much to see. by w0mprat · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Still a feature-starved sparse looking uninspired clone of USC (which still has a kludgey unfinished feel), copying the abysmal rating system. Desktop linux could benefit greatly from a decent App Store.

    I really wish developers would actually take a look at competitors are doing and get some inspiration.

    Taking a look at, for example: Mac App Store, Android Market web store, Intel's App-up, Chrome Web App store, even AllMyApps for windows is a good one to look at. Even Linux Mint's App portal is a good effort.

    Linux has had good package management and delivery for a long long time, all it's been missing is a good, navigable and appealing front end for it.

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    1. Re:Not much to see. by Nerdfest · · Score: 3, Informative

      Have you looked at the one that comes with Ubuntu (not Synaptic, but the actual Software Centre)? It actually compares favourably with all of the examples you've given, and is nicer than some, I think.

    2. Re:Not much to see. by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 2

      Refinements are always welcome, but I think every desktop Linux user for the immediate future is going to favour efficiency at the top of the learning curve over intuitivity at the bottom, any day of the week: why else would they think about using Linux?

      THIS.

      I don't mind improvements to the DEs. I don't care if some distros want to go full retard. But you can pry my bash commands and the ability to configure every part of my system with a basic text editor from my cold dead hands.

    3. Re:Not much to see. by Kjella · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I've always been a little curious - what do all these package management front-ends actually do?

      When I want to install a package, I do: apt-get install <name-of-package-i-want>

      Help you find name-of-package-i-want, if you already know that then no front end is going to make it easier. Categories, ratings, descriptions, searches... yes, it's pretty much all possible with the command line and clever use of grep but it's supposed to be the easy and intuitive way to get from "I have some vague notion of what I want" to "I'll try installing name-of-package-i-probably-want".

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    4. Re:Not much to see. by MMC+Monster · · Score: 2

      Don't forget user reviews.

      It's important to know that while a package was abandoned by it's developer more than a year ago, it's still the best one of it's type in the repository.

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    5. Re:Not much to see. by jon_doh2.0 · · Score: 2

      It comes in Debian too, i have never used it, though just had a look at it and it is very polished and simple to use, and seems to meet the basic tenets of an "app-store", no?

    6. Re:Not much to see. by silverglade00 · · Score: 2

      You may have no problem finding source, compiling, installing dependencies, etc.

      I run Windows, OSX, Fedora and FreeBSD and I have not ever had to do those things. I have wanted to on FreeBSD, but I did not have to. Perhaps you should try something other than Linux From Scratch.

  3. Re:Broken download page? by stms · · Score: 2

    Hmm... just tried the download page seems to work fine for me if for some wierd reason it isn't working for you try the torrent

  4. Re:hmm. by gmiernicki · · Score: 2

    Same here, nothing wrong with having a few Gnome packing in your system. I also use KxStudio on top of Kubuntu, so I bring a load of packages in from there too. Who really care what packages you have in your distro? it's what you do with it that counts :D

  5. YAPM (Yet Another Pkg Mgr/system/frontend)=NIH by Ensign+Nemo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Good lord! Enough with package managers/packaging systems/new frontends.. They're like paint programs in Linux. 15 half-assed ones but not one single great one, because every developer with NIH feels like he has to create another one because 'nobody else has these features.' ENOUGH ALREADY! at this point, it has nothing to do with choice and everything to do with developer ego and NIH.

    It's just a frigging package manager/frontend/system. Can we get past this already?!?!?!?!

    Seriously, this is why Vista's failure didn't hurt Microsoft. Linux devs are too busy reinventing the wheel every 6 months. Devs will get 80% there and then stop and then all the other devs decide they know a better way to do it, and they get (if they're lucky) 80% there and stop. rinse and repeat.

    And don't give me that "If you don't like it, you don't have to use it." Now instead of 15 half-assed ones, we have 16 half-assed ones. Kubuntu will use it, no one else will, and users have to learn yet another interface.

    Ugh, I need a drink.

  6. KDE developer's short attention span by nut · · Score: 3, Insightful

    KDE seems to suffer terribly from re-writer's disease. They'll write a good piece of software, possibly lacking a few features and a bit buggy in places. Rather than polish it and fill in the gaps, they nearly always decider to write something Newer and Better.

    Almost invariably the new application won't be the latter, because immature software tends to lack a few features and be a bit buggy in places.

    I still prefer KDE to Gnome, and Kubuntu is my main desktop, but I really wish the developers would settle down and get a bit less skittish.

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  7. Re:hmm. by KiloByte · · Score: 2

    aptitude stands for: uninstall the world, install a few totally unrelated packages, without doing what you asked it to do.

    Seriously, why does it even consider a "solution" that includes no foo if I typed "aptitude install foo"?

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  8. i thought apt was the package manager? by decora · · Score: 2

    man, did i wake up on the wrong side of a time travel machine?