Fedora 15 Released

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Posted by Unknown on Tuesday May 24, 2011 @07:29AM from the ooo-shiny-new-features dept.

halfline writes "Fedora 15 was released today. It features GNOME 3 (with its substantially redone UI) and the systemd init system by default." The release also brings the latest KDE and XFCE versions, improved Btrfs support, amd a switch from OpenOffice.org to LibreOffice. Installation images are available from the usual sources.

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"Btrfs" by MrEricSir · 2011-05-24 07:38 · Score: 2, Funny

The last time I heard "Btrfs" was from right behind me, after eating too many beans.

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1. Re:"Btrfs" by Anonymous Coward · 2011-05-24 07:53 · Score: 2, Funny
  
  If your asshole is capable of making a "t" sound, I suggest you see a proctologist immediately.
Torrent by kai_hiwatari · 2011-05-24 07:40 · Score: 5, Informative

The direct download was quite slow for me. Torrent was faster for me. http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/
1. Re:Torrent by Homburg · 2011-05-24 09:03 · Score: 3, Funny
  
  Well of course. As you can see by reading Slashdot, all of us use torrents only for seeding Linux distributions, and nothing else.
Re:Does it still crash all the time? by ZankerH · 2011-05-24 07:52 · Score: 3, Informative

Protip: Fedora Core 4 was released almost 6 years ago. This is ancient history in free software development terms (unless you're HURD), and you should assume any experience you had with it is irrelevant to any modern GNU/Linux distro, Fedora included.
Re:Is it better? by Picass0 · 2011-05-24 07:59 · Score: 2

Gnome 3 almost looks like it's been optimized to be a tablet environment. I'll play with the new Gnome, but I'll have to be really impressed to switch away from KDE.
Gnome 3 Shell by HRbnjR · 2011-05-24 08:00 · Score: 5, Insightful

After half an hour with the Gnome 3 Shell I *really* want my old desktop back :(
My initial impression is that all fundamental tasks, like launching apps, switching apps, switching desktops, etc, all take far more motions and/or clicks to accomplish than before. It appears as though all my app launchers have been pulled from their organized menus and dumped in a big messy pile I have to search through. And it doesn't look like I can customize the layout like I could before.
Maybe it will grow on me, maybe I will learn and adapt (I'm trying to give the Gnome dev's the benefit of the doubt here), but as it stands after my initial half an hour, I *hate* it, and I don't think I'm going to be nearly alone?
1. Re:Gnome 3 Shell by macemoneta · 2011-05-24 08:09 · Score: 2, Interesting
  
  I've been running F15 since the beta. It took a couple of days to acclimate to gnome-shell. I used to run Gnome2+Compiz+AWM, so it's a considerable change. Even so, I'm quite comfortable with it now and have no intention of switching back.
  
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2. Re:Gnome 3 Shell by rlillard · 2011-05-24 08:45 · Score: 2
  
  I agree that it is confusing. I been running a F15 release candidate for the last month or so. There are some features of Gnome3 that have to go away and will as soon as I have some spare time to dig into it. I must point out that Gnome3 is the lesser of two evils. I began using Redhat back in the mid-90s. When Ubuntu released Dapper I switched my working desktop to it because of the reduced admin effort. My current desktop is Lucid.
  About 2 months ago I heard Ubuntu was moving away from Gnome and downloaded Natty just to see what the fuss was about. That lasted about 2 weeks. I blew Natty away and downloaded Mint/Xfce. Wasn't very happy with it either. So now I'm back to Redhat/Fedora/Gnome3. For me, Ubuntu the wrong direction. Loss of the network transparent graphical environment was the final straw. If I wanted an Mac, I would have bought a Mac.
  Gnome3 will take some getting used to, but I am confident I can open the hood and fix the things that drive me crazy. The first to go will be windows that maximize themselves when I push the title bar to the top of the desktop. I don't know who thought that was a good idea, but they need a dope slap.
Re:network update? by hierofalcon · 2011-05-24 08:00 · Score: 2

Install the pre-release package and then do
yum upgrade
Or load the new product keys into your rpm database yourself, reset your yum repo lists manually to the next release version, and execute the above command.
Usually this requires a small number of package deletions and reinstalls after the upgrade, but some work systems have been upgraded since FC1 without needing to do a new fresh install. In most cases, you can even do them live now and reboot when you're done. Occasionally you need to restart a service before the upgrade is complete, but it usually does pretty well. Be sure to try it on a test box and not a production server though. Just be sure to read the release notes first and handle all the .rpmsave, .rpmnew, and the like configuration file changes where you'd made changes from the defaults.
Still has to be done with each new release every 6 months or so. It will be nice if they ever move to a moving release structure instead that you can just keep updating, but I doubt that will ever happen.
Just installed it and... by hey · 2011-05-24 08:07 · Score: 3, Interesting

...I like it. The faster .drpm alone is worth it.
1. Re:Just installed it and... by cswiii · 2011-05-24 14:46 · Score: 2
  
  I've been using smart package manager nearly exclusively for a long time now. There is the occasional unfortunate GUI bug but they seem to get rectified pretty well. And if you want, you can always use the CLI backend.
  http://labix.org/smart
Re:Does it still crash all the time? by Anonymous Coward · 2011-05-24 08:29 · Score: 5, Insightful

Hi, I'm here from the Hurd anti-defamation league, and wanted to point out that while progress is slow, it's actually doing pretty well.
It's doing so well, in fact, it's *almost* ready for noobs like yourself to try:
http://www.archhurd.org/news/19/
Re:Is it better? by Greger47 · 2011-05-24 08:32 · Score: 2

Exactly my impression to, I think it would be great for tablets.
But for desktop not so much, it feels like a mouse marathon back and forth over the wide-screen monitor to launch applications, switching desktops etc.
/greger
Re:Does it still crash all the time? by ZankerH · 2011-05-24 09:55 · Score: 2, Interesting

This is a first for me, but mod AC parent up. This is genuine news to me and deserves exposure.
Re:live media by bfields · 2011-05-24 09:58 · Score: 2

Look over to the right of the download page. Note where it says "To install Fedora using a USB stick, follow these instructions."
(Also note the command line version of the instructions amount to just dd'ing your choice of iso images onto a usb stick.)
Re:Seems half baked to me by greg1104 · 2011-05-24 13:39 · Score: 2

Well, sure, if you only have 512GB of RAM on your laptop, you're not going to be able to use all the GNOME Shell capabilities. Systems with less than a terabyte of RAM will have to adopt lightweight alternatives like Compiz or Plasma. Be sure to upgrade your hardware if you want to take advantages of all the latest wizardry from the GNOME project!
Re:Does it still crash all the time? by X0563511 · 2011-05-24 14:23 · Score: 2

12, 13, and 14 were pretty solid from my experimenting. Hell I even managed to cooperate with SELinux!
Give it a try.

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