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Windows 1.0: the Power of DOS, Plus Tiled Windows

jbrodkin writes "I'd always wanted my own working copy of the elusive Windows 1.0, and after a few failed attempts I got one working in a virtual machine (I had to downgrade from the latest version of Windows Virtual PC to an earlier version to get it started, but that's another story). With 416K free memory, we were able to cruise through Reversi, take a look at the first version of Notepad, as well as the now-defunct Microsoft Write, and create a 'masterpiece' in Microsoft Paint. Eventually, applications started crashing, but a simple reboot got it working again. All in all, a nice tour through computing history. Anyone have a copy of the first Macintosh OS they want to send me?"

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  1. Isn't It Past Time Slashdot Change the MS Icon?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What's the deal with Slashdot still using that Bill Gates Borg icon to represent Microsoft? That icon is so dated on both levels these days. Bill Gates hasn't worked at Microsoft in years, and the Borg reference just is no longer current or relevant. Anyone under 25 would hardly get the references.

    You guys just had a redesign, and you still can't deign to use the real Microsoft icon? For gods sake you have the real ones for Facebook and Twitter, it's not like its that hard. If anything, it makes slashdot just look so horribly unfunny and irrelevant.

    This is an on-topic meta comment.

  2. working as designed by OglinTatas · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...after a few failed attempts I got one working.... Eventually, applications started crashing, but a simple reboot got it working again.

    Sounds like you have it working as designed. Bravo.

  3. Yep. by wcrowe · · Score: 4, Funny

    Eventually, applications started crashing, but a simple reboot got it working again

    Yep, that's Windows all right.

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  4. Re:the "another story" by SharpFang · · Score: 2

    probably emulation of modern CPU too different from old XT/AT.
    They did away with some of the oldest "features".

    BTW, Dosbox would likely be better suited.

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  5. What a masochist by fragfoo · · Score: 2

    BTW didn't the other guy upgraded from windows 1.0 to 7 making this even less relevant?

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    1. Re:What a masochist by meza · · Score: 2

      That was surprisingly fascinating to watch. I'm really impressed with how backwards compatible the windows platform is. I love my MacBook but I hate how even the most basic programs seem to always require the latest version of MacOS to run so that you are forced to upgrade. I admit this is more like "forward compatibility" though.

  6. Heh, if you liked that by sumdumass · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you liked that experience, you should check out the windows really good version

    http://www.deanliou.com/WinRG/

  7. Re:Isn't It Past Time Slashdot Change the MS Icon? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The point is that it's now passed beyond satire into meta-satire; the satire is mostly on the fact that so many Slashdot commenters bemoan their portrayal as you do. The very reason it's still being used is probably because of that. Honestly, I see more comments complaining about how Slashdotters are always biased against MS than I see comments which are genuinely biased against them.

  8. Re:Isn't It Past Time Slashdot Change the MS Icon? by softWare3ngineer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I could go for a Ballmer Zombie instead.

  9. Re:Isn't It Past Time Slashdot Change the MS Icon? by scharkalvin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Now THAT is a good idea. Actually does anybody beside me think that Ballmer looks like the monster from Young Frankenstein?

  10. Errors by Kamiza+Ikioi · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's amazing. The error dialogs and calculator have lasted on, virtually unchanged.

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  11. Re:Why the hell is this here? by Anonymous+Psychopath · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's nostalgia for those of us that actually used it.

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  12. QDOS? (DOS 1.0) by Kamiza+Ikioi · · Score: 2

    I wonder where someone could find and run QDOS (DOS 1.0 that Gates bought and sold to IBM). "The "Microsoft Disk Operating System" or MS-DOS was based on QDOS, the "Quick and Dirty Operating System" written by Tim Paterson of Seattle Computer Products, for their prototype Intel 8086 based computer.

    QDOS was based on Gary Kildall's CP/M, Paterson had bought a CP/M manual and used it as the basis to write his operating system in six weeks, QDOS was different enough from CP/M to be considered legal.

    Microsoft bought the rights to QDOS for $50,000, keeping the IBM deal a secret from Seattle Computer Products." - About.com

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    1. Re:QDOS? (DOS 1.0) by CharlyFoxtrot · · Score: 4, Informative

      Here you go ! It's 86DOS but as wikipedia explains :

      "86-DOS was an operating system developed and marketed by Seattle Computer Products for its Intel 8086-based computer kit. Initially known as QDOS (Quick and Dirty Operating System) the name was changed to 86-DOS once SCP started licensing the operating system."

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    2. Re:QDOS? (DOS 1.0) by jelle · · Score: 2

      You probably now have a boot sector virus.

      Remember those?

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  13. Re:Isn't It Past Time Slashdot Change the MS Icon? by PhilHibbs · · Score: 2
  14. Re:the "another story" by tverbeek · · Score: 2

    About 15 years ago I tried installing Windows 1.0 on a then-current computer (probably a 386 or 486) and couldn't get it to work. My guess at the time was that the VGA chipset of the machine was doing a poor job of emulating the EGA graphics modes that Windows 1.0 was trying to use for (but even already in those days no one actually cared enough to test), but it could have been any of a hundred devitations from the then-current "IBM PC/XT compatible" standard that Microsoft assumed it would be running on.

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  15. Re:Isn't It Past Time Slashdot Change the MS Icon? by Hatta · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They're keeping it solely to piss people like you off. It seems to be working.

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  16. I don't think you'll find a copy... by kevinmenzel · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm not sure that I've ever seen a copy of Windows 1.0, and I was REALLY in to old versions of windows at a point. 1.01, yes. 1.02, yes. 1.03, yes. 1.04, definitely (had that running native on a P4 though I forget how easy or difficult that was...) - but not the original 1.0. Apparently there was some sort of major bug with 1.0, or memory leak, or something. If anybody actually finds a copy somewhere though... that would be amazing. I've seen things claiming to be 1.0 that are just resource hacks of 1.01 or 1.04, (usually 1.04) so I know you can "find it on the google" but I have yet to see a confirmed 1.0 disk image anywhere on the net....

    1. Re:I don't think you'll find a copy... by linebackn · · Score: 3, Insightful

      >Apparently there was some sort of major bug with 1.0, or memory leak, or something.

      There was an article linked to on Slashdot a while back that explained this. Here is the link:
      http://technologizer.com/2010/03/08/the-secret-origin-of-windows/

      Windows 1.00 was not quite ready to release to the public but they had some obligation to release, so they branded 1.00 as Windows "Premier Edition" and gave that to certain people. Windows 1.01 was apparently the first version to actually hit the store shelves.

  17. Write still present, at least as a proxy by morningstar8 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The original Write might have gone away...but there is still a proxy in its place.

    If you look in Windows 7's \system32 directory, you will find good ol' write.exe. I believe the icon is the same one it had in the Win 95 days. If you look at the property dialog for the file, and click over to the Details tab, you'll see that the "File description" is "Windows Write". Even in Windows 7, one can invoke "write hello.txt" from the command line.

    However, the executable is tiny, and it appears to simply invoke WordPad. The executable that shows up in Task Manager is "wordpad.exe".

    1. Re:Write still present, at least as a proxy by webrunner · · Score: 2

      Wordpad is basically Write- they more or less just renamed the application for 95.

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  18. Re:I still have a copy of Windows 2 x86 by Hatta · · Score: 2

    The 5.25" floppies probably are. I have a number of vintage computers. In my experience you can pretty much count on properly stored 5.25" floppies to work. 3.5" floppies are almost entirely unreadable on the other hand.

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  19. Re:Isn't It Past Time Slashdot Change the MS Icon? by Lumpy · · Score: 2

    Because a sweaty Ballmer throwing chairs will not fit in a icon.

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  20. Re:Isn't It Past Time Slashdot Change the MS Icon? by qubezz · · Score: 2

    I played the Picard song on youtube to my 21 year old roommate. He asked 'what is pick-urd?'...

  21. Re:Isn't It Past Time Slashdot Change the MS Icon? by FridayBob · · Score: 2

    Too late. That just means that the Bill Gates Borg icon is becoming part of Slashdot lore. Newbies may not understand immediately, but they will if they stick around long enough. Besides, if we didn't allow for this sort of thing, how could we ever expect to develop our own culture? If instead Slashdot just followed whatever was trendy, then I think our days would be numbered. Of course, this may also mean that we will eventually die out, our sizable membership finally dwindling to a small number of old kooks, but even then I'd rather be a member of this club than of one of the trendier ones that come and go.

  22. Re:Isn't It Past Time Slashdot Change the MS Icon? by ProppaT · · Score: 2

    The sad thing is that this Borg Gates icon was actually updated in the past few years. They went through the effort to redraw the icon even after its outdated. If they want to recycle a bad joke, do a Steve Jobs on for Apple. At least that would be relevant and actually make sense.

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  23. Re:Isn't It Past Time Slashdot Change the MS Icon? by newcastlejon · · Score: 2

    No, but it doesn't make it more valid either.

    What it does do is alienate your intended audience and make them think you're like chlorine in /.'s gene pool.

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  24. Re:Isn't It Past Time Slashdot Change the MS Icon? by Ginger+Unicorn · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'd love to see Gates demonstrating Ballmer's ability to perform "Puttin' on the Ritz" to a skeptical theatre audience.

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