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Samsung Wants To See iPhone 5 and iPad 3
tekgoblin writes "The suit against Samsung that Apple filed back in April has been full of surprises recently; Apple even asked to see some of Samsung's future devices. Now, Samsung is requesting to view Apple's upcoming devices such as the iPad 3 and iPhone 5."
"I show you mine if you show me yours."
they never did.
Oh goddammit. I didn't need that right before bed.
I found the comment that this may delay their release the most interesting. If true, perhaps this will stop Apple and others from abusing the legal system in the future. Smart move on Samsung's part.
While I completely believe Apple is paranoid enough to believe that everyone is stealing their generic unappealing design, it's frightening that a judge can tell Samsung to pull down it's pants and cough.
Apple and Samsung employees/execs/lawyers are not viewing eachother's designs. The review is done by a supposedly unbiased third-party who will simply look for any infringement. No one from either camp gets to stare at what im starting to believe is some sort of circuit board porn
Watch Johanna Blakely talk at TED about the fashion industry.
It's got a number of rather interesting points:
- designers take creative input from anywhere
- logos on goods are the only thing you cannot copy
- the customers for copied goods are not the customers a designer would normally have anyway, something the music and film industry might have to start thinking about (Microsoft understands this better - it's what they use for initial market penetration).
Worth watching, whatever side of the IP fence you live..
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If you think that patenting has to do with keeping things secret, then you obviously have no clue about the reason we have patents. Patents are designed to fully disclose an invention; actually a patent is supposed to be written in a way that someone skilled in the art can build the machine described in the patent. This to promote the disclosure of inventions, and with that to increase common knowledge. The reward for this full disclosure is a time-limited monopoly on the use of that invention.
A design patent is different: it means that no-one is allowed to use the same design in their products. How same is same... that's what's now in court. Of course no secrets involved here, just protection of one's intellectual property (a design patent doesn't have an expiry data afaik - I'm not sure about that point), in a fashion similar to trademarks (a trademark is basically protected by using it, for unlimited time, protection ends when you stop using it - registration is optional though highly recommended).
In the actual story, there are details about which products Apple wants to see. Samsung's products are already released or going to be released in the near future. They have been shown and demonstrated like at CES 2011 in February.
Apple, however, has not announced nor shown their upcoming products. The public does not even know the name of upcoming products. This has been Apple's way of doing things for years. When Apple announces or shows their products, they will announce when they will be available and usually within weeks. The only exception I can remember is the original iPhone which had a six month lead; but the reason Apple stated that it announced so early was that it was going to be hard to keep it a secret much longer as they had to apply for FCC licensing. Apple applying for FCC licensing for a cell phone when they didn't make cell phones was going to be an public indication.
The question one could ask is why Apple needs the design when the product is already released. The answer is rather simple: Samsung, as the manufacturer, is the only one that can provide official designs to Apple. Getting the designs from anyone else is not official.
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If you actually read the link you provided, it clearly says "for this week." Statistically you'd need a much larger sample size than 1 to make a general claim for trends. I remember there were a few weeks when the Zune outsold the iPod. Those were the weeks when retailers like Amazon heavily discounted them to get rid of inventory as they had not been selling well. No one would say that over the history of the Zune that it outsold the iPod.
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... But isn't it apple suing Samsung for copying their design?
I can see why a judge wants Apple to see the next Samsung models, but I fail to understand why would he ever grant Samsung permission to check future Apple releases.
Because Samsung can counter sue if the future designs have copied anything from the Galaxy series.
But then again, Apple is suing Samsung because the Galaxy S has rounded corners and the box it comes in is kinda the same. Heck, lets do away with the false pretences, Apple is suing Samsung because Samsung is a threat to them and they cant compete. Samsung is saying they will go after Apple's jugular with this move.
Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
By the standards of this market segment, Apple's actually slow to render its products obsolete. In the past nine months, Samsung has released the Galaxy S, the Galaxy S II, and the Nexus S, while HTC has had the Desire, the Desire S, and the Desire's explicit replacement, the HTC Sensation. The mobile phone industry runs on a three-month cycle, with conferences set to that rhythm. By releasing phones once a year, Apple's actually going relatively slowly.
No kidding!!! What do you say at this point?