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AMD Opens Israeli R&D Center, Hints At ARM Link
siliconbits writes "We've learnt that AMD will open a new research and development center in Israel in the Tel-Aviv area, one which will be built around Graphic Remedy, the small startup they purchased in September 2010 and which specialises in development tools for heterogeneous computing and 3D graphics. Although the chip company hasn't published any press releases yet, the news is a clear indication that AMD sees its future (and its survival) in a more fragmented market where x86 is no longer the dominating platform."
Now Israel will be providing ARMs to the US for a change!
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now you can't buy AMD either any more.
Israel has a huge technology sector. Intel, Microsoft, IBM, HP, Google, Freescale, CA, and SanDisk have Israeli R&D facilities. Hopefully this will help AMD become more competitive with recent Intel generations soon.
I worked in a semiconductor fab for a long time and we used AMAT SEM machines that were manufactured in israel. The direct factory reps were all israeli as well. A lot of people think of israel as this war-torn middle east wasteland but that's just not the case. It's a very wealthy and prosperous country, even if they are expanding and displacing the native populace. They are bringing a lot of non-oil money into the region.
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".... development tools for heterogeneous computing and 3D graphics.
Hardly clear at all. These CPU + GPU chip packages that both Intel and AMD making the mainstream of the PC component offerings are
The days of an x86 core being the sole major element inside of a "CPU" package may be over. However, it is just going to get more "crowded" in the package. There will have to be something other than just a CPU inside the package that people common label as the CPU.
Does the "A" in AMD and ATI stand for "Apartheid"?
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Both AMD and ARM are pushing OpenCL in their GPUs. AMD is betting heavily on GPGPU, ARM has always been interested in offloading work to DSPs and suchlike in SoCs. This is nothing to do with AMD designing ARM chips in a post-x86 future, it's about both AMD and ARM emphasising GPU power over CPU power. AMD, because their GPUs are much faster than Intel's, and ARM because Atom (which loses quite badly on performance per Watt already) has no advantage over an ARM core in terms of raw performance if anything CPU-intensive is being offloaded to the GPU.
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Does the "A" in AMD and ATI stand for "Apartheid"?
I guess it does now.
What are you talking about? Tel Aviv isn't in the Gaza strip.
Apartheid was a political system in South Africa, which was in use in the 20th century, mainly between the 1940s and the 1980s. In the system, the people of South Africa were divided by their race. Even though black people were the majority in the country, a small number of white people ruled them and held most political offices. There were laws that kept up the racial separation. The system of apartheid in South Africa was banned in 1994.
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I don't get it.
It's just another bombastic claim Palestinian sympathizers use to garner support from naive liberals, anti-zionists and anti-semites. It's a stupid analogy, but that's all they have. Well, that and their terrorism, but here in the US we've finally started to frown on that.
Tell you what. Let's look at a situation:
[HYPOTHETICAL]
Aztlan wingnuts decide to take back California. They set up in Tijuana and start shooting Katushya rockets into San Diego and Orange County.
What should the US.gov do?
[/HYPOTHETICAL]
General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.
This explains the recruiting frenzy that Intel Israel has been in for last few weeks. They're drying up the employee market.
There are so many half-truths, distortions and lies in what you hypothesise, that it is unpossible to formulate a refutation.
"Flyin' in just a sweet place,
Never been known to fail..."
the lack of AMD factories and sites in Israel was one reason to buy AMD CPUs over Intel ones. now I hope that VIA can ramp up production, their Nano X2 is a close equivalent to AMD bobcat fusion, and they have a X4 as well.
Did we forget what happened to Iraq already? Israeli leaders play from the same textbook as the PNAC criminals who destroyed, piilaged and tortured that country. Netanyahu was councelled by Richard Perle many years ago, and his atrocious speeches feel like they are from Dick Cheney.
This isn't about antisemitism, or even terrorism. Israel is controlled by global ennemies of humanity, just like the US congress, german or french government, WTO, IMF, what have you, or mega banking corporations. You want democracy, freedom, human rights? they can only gained by getting rid of those criminals.
I have always said that it is all about Intel Xeon processors in commodity servers and that AMD was a passing fad. It looks like AMD finally agreed and has implicitly conceded the market to Intel.
s/South Africa/Israel/
s/white/Israeli Jews/
s/black/Palestinian/
s/the majority/roughly half the population/
s/small number/politically dominant quasi-racial class/
s/20th century/20th and 21st centuries/
s/1980s/present/
s/banned in 1994/not yet banned/
The term Apartheid is not employed by Israel, which apparently wants to enjoy the propaganda coup of "democracy" while employing much of the same institutional policies that South Africa employed under the Apartheid regime. But the comparison is mostly apt, which has been recognized by former South African Apartheid leaders and resisters alike. There are some areas where the comparison breaks down, but those areas aren't particularly flattering to Israel; the most obvious difference being that, while Apartheid South Africa depended on black labor and exploited it in much the same way the US depends on migrant labor, Israel has shed a great deal of its dependence on Palestinian labor, leaving the population not just imprisoned under the rule of another people, but almost totally stripped of any kind of economic existence or leverage with which to improve their conditions.
There are other, probably more apt, comparisons available, but they tend to be just as controversial among those who take Israel's claims to be a "democracy" and so forth at face value. The most obvious is to the countless precedents of (settler and imperial) colonialism, and here the comparisons don't break down at all... except in the minor areas that they differ among themselves. It's probably wiser, in the long run, to expose the colonialist system itself for what it is, and to put Apartheid, too, in that context. But the use of Apartheid as a frame of reference remains relevant, as the systems are incredibly similar.
How can you be a "democracy" when you deny full status to non-Jews?
BTW: There is no historical or archaeological validation for " a first temple" or a "David and Solomon" or any other fairy-tale that is used to justify this supposed "promised land". The whole Moses story is entirely un-validated through any reading of the historical record, either from Egypt or their contemporary states.
But the Mormons insist that the American Natives were dislocated tribes of Israel, to whom Jesus sent his message, after the resurrection.
So I guess people will swallow any kind of horse shit - instead of actually treating each other as loved creations by God.
"Flyin' in just a sweet place,
Never been known to fail..."
So it's not like israel has jewish beaches and arab beaches. The comparison doesn't seem particularly apt to me.
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How can you be a "democracy" when you deny full status to non-Jews?
Ignorance is far too rampant for me to make a dent, but I'll try:
- Arab population in Israel: 1,271,000 (about 20% of the population)
- 84.9% of Israeli Arabs stated that Israel has a right to exist as an independent state
- 77% would rather live in Israel as Israeli citizens than in any other country in the world
There are 14 arab members of parliament in the Israeli Knesset (out of 120 members total)
Feel free to check the stats here. I'm Israeli and I work with arabs every day, in the tech sector. They send their children to Israeli schools, and vote for parliament like any other citizen. The only major difference is that they don't have to serve in the IDF unless they want to.
Entomologically speaking, the spider is not a bug, it's a feature.
South African apartheid didn't apply to "its own citizens", it applied to a white elite ruling over a (set of) black nation(s); it implemented "sovereignty" for the black South Africans under terms like "homelands" and "bantustans". And while the Palestinians of Gaza and the West Bank are not Israeli citizens, they are a population Israel has ruled over since 1967, and has effectively permanent sovereignty over. The whole of Palestine has been wholly Israel for 44 years, and given Israeli politics and US support, will continue to do so indefinitely. Israel can't have both rule over the Palestinians and independence from them.
And while Israel doesn't have "Jewish beaches and Arab beaches", it has "Israeli roads and Palestinian 'roads'", and a whole set of separate laws that apply differently to Jews than to Palestinians (whether Israeli citizens or not). The most obvious case is the fact that Palestinians are not permitted to emigrate to Israel (while Jews are, by law, guaranteed that right) and are excluded from buying most land held in public trust. And while building permits are ostensibly not segregated, denials of permits are almost exclusively given to Palestinians.
This is a very small sliver of a very long list.
but haven't you heard of the holocaust? Jews need a homeland.
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Can an "Arab" marry a Jew?
"Flyin' in just a sweet place,
Never been known to fail..."
This is what happens when education budgets are cut.
Is an "Arab" free to purchase and reside in any property, in any location of his choice?
"Flyin' in just a sweet place,
Never been known to fail..."
This is the correct responce to the ill informed claims of the folks who have nothing better to do than spread heate.
The statistics you quote are probably biased by the fact that most arabs living in Israel would be afraid of answering those questions truthfully for fear of persecution. Also it shouldn't be surprising that muslims want to live in their holy cities. A religious state implies institutionalised prejudice. Israel is and always will be fundamentally flawed.
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Whoever moderated this "troll", assuming you know what "troll" means, I am impressed with your faith in the mental capacities of the people I'm apparently "trolling".
Oh, I get it. Good job.
For what it's worth, since I've unwittingly done "cheeks'" propaganda job for them, I'll go ahead and address the Holocaust too.
Holocaust: happened.
Committed: not by Palestinians, who bear no responsibility to shoulder the burden of making wrongs right.
Homeland: probably a good idea, especially in the context of the Holocaust.
"Jewish state": not the same thing as a homeland.
"Jewish state" in Palestine: produced, inevitably, ethnic cleansing, dispossession, and the colonial relationship that will make more ethnic cleansing and dispossession a constant and ongoing inevitability.
The Holocaust is a good defense of a Jewish safe-haven; it's an awful defense of an ethno-religious settler-colonial state created to engage in conquest.
Yes, I personally know of several such cases. It's not common, but it's not illegal.
Whenever in an argument, remember this.
Legally? Yes. Of course, if an Arab would try to buy a house in the middle of an orthodox neighborhood, it will be frowned upon, but such will be the case if I, a Jewish person, will buy a house in the middle of an Arab village.
Whenever in an argument, remember this.
Israel is not a country where people are persecuted for speaking their mind. If you would just look a couple of weeks back, many Arab citizens protested around the country to remember the Nakba. Do most of the Jewish Israelis agree with them? No. Did anyone interfere with their right for peaceful assembly? Not in the least. In places where the assemblies became violent, only there did the police intervene.
Whenever in an argument, remember this.
as long as they don't have a factory on occupied land
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Can someone tell me why Israel is so attractive for fabs? Intel are big there too, aren't they.
So they don't crush peaceful protests, that hardly makes them a shining example of democracy. I bet the police's definition of 'peaceful' and 'appropriate force' tends to change depending on who is protesting. If a Jewish state is not going to treat Jews and 'Non-Jews' differently then what is the point of it exactly?
The point of a Jewish state is that for the first time in modern history, the Jewish people will have a place they are not discriminated against. The Jewish state is not meant to be a place where we discriminate others. Granted, things are not perfect, and I agree that it is easier being Jewish in Israel than Arab, but you can just pick any one of Israel's neighbors to see places where the government treats strangers, women and sometimes even its own citizens with a rough hand.
It's always funny when every small slip-up by Israel is covered and shown as a proof to the inhumanity of the Jewish state, when most (if not all) of the Arab states practice human-rights violation on a daily, if not hourly, basis; and with much worse offences.
Whenever in an argument, remember this.
The point of a Jewish state is that for the first time in modern history, the Jewish people will have a place they are not discriminated against.
That's just wrong. Jews can live quite happily in the US, UK, most of Europe, Canada, Australia, NZ, etc: places where everybody is protected equally. Also they could have created Israel somewhere else. Jews, Christians and Muslims all have equally valid claims to 'belonging' there.
The Jewish state is not meant to be a place where we discriminate others.
But that precisely what it must become! You cannot represent all groups equally when you promise to protect one of them above all.
Granted, things are not perfect, and I agree that it is easier being Jewish in Israel than Arab, but you can just pick any one of Israel's neighbors to see places where the government treats strangers, women and sometimes even its own citizens with a rough hand.
Sure by most standards Israel is better than most of it's neighbours, but that's not saying much. Countries run by dictators are a poor benchmark.
It's always funny when every small slip-up by Israel is covered and shown as a proof to the inhumanity of the Jewish state, when most (if not all) of the Arab states practice human-rights violation on a daily, if not hourly, basis; and with much worse offences.
As above. I'd argue Israeli's and Arabs aren't much different in their US versus THEM attitudes, though the Israeli's are a bit more sophisticated in how they go about it. There really is no reason for Israel to not join the rest of the civilised world and simply bestow equal rights for all. If the Jews are being discriminated against, the perpetrators get taken to court and/or go to jail. Jews are the majority, what do they have to fear?