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Chinese Paper Warns Google May Pay Price For Hacking Claims
suraj.sun writes with this excerpt from a Reuters report:
"Google has become a 'political tool' vilifying the Chinese government, an official Beijing newspaper said on Monday, warning that the US internet giant's statements about hacking attacks traced to China could hurt its business. The tough warning appeared in the overseas edition of the People's Daily, the leading newspaper of China's ruling Communist Party, indicating that political tensions between the United States and China over Internet security could linger. Last week, Google said it had broken up an effort to steal the passwords of hundreds of Google email account holders, including US government officials, Chinese human rights advocates and journalists. It said the attacks appeared to come from China."
They don't care if anyone outside China believes it. They are building pretext to block Google entirely.
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Read Google's blog post here:
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/06/ensuring-your-information-is-safe.html
Nowhere do they point fingers at the Chinese government. They merely pointed out source of the attack was based in a certain Chinese city. It is the Chinese who interpreted that as pointing at the Chinese govt. Why would the Chinese do that unless they are aware of the attack being carried out by their army/govt. They could've just said they will investigate further the origin and trace the attackers. No, instead they went into this defensive spin. Shows the Chinese govt is guilty (al though Google didn't accuse them).
#Lame #Fail.
I'm sure Bing will be more than happy to censor any results they like.
We built it, and among its many purposes were to further the freedoms of the United States of America.
To what ends are China using the Internet we built? Attacking the email accounts of our senior government officials? Sabotaging the power grid? Probing the network of Lockheed Martin?
How do Chinese packets get to the US, and why should they continue to reach us? It is time -- past time -- that the US cut off all Internet routing from China, and establishes treaties with China's neighbors prohibiting them from routing Chinese packets to the US.
Google scissors cuts Chinese paper. Ha.
Ceci n'est pas un sig.
With the Great Firewall, I have a hard time believing that an attack originating from a Chinese IP was not government backed.
Well, the Chinese government *are* bad guys and pretty much everything they do is so much more blatantly egregious than what other governments do that what other governments do gets ignored because the Chinese government's antics steal the spotlight. Fix that and we can start ogling other governments' poor behaviour (of which there is certainly plenty!).
I'm sorry but China is shady as hell... and no one is claiming that X country is innocent, but come on... China has been at the forefront and behind the scenes of a great number of cyber attacks lately. The words "I think he doth protest too much" comes to mind.
The reason is that they don't know how. At this point they can't even feed themselves, and that's relatively straightforward compared with building and maintaining their own national intranet. I'm sure there are plenty of folks in China that are capable of doing it, I just don't think they know how to actually undertake something of that magnitude in the current climate over there.
Half of China probably doesn't believe it's own propaganda.
Vote monkeys into Congress. They are cheaper and more trustworthy.
They won't block all external communications services. Just the ones that won't filter and spy as the Chinese government wants.
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Half of China probably doesn't believe it's own propaganda.
The guy in 1984 didn't believe the propaganda either, but he jumped up and down yelling 'death to Eastasia' with the rest of them.
Yes, and the cyber war will be fought via World of Warcraft.
Now we know the real reason China has been forcing prisoners in its labor camps to gold farm...
China has some very serious external dependencies. Iron, coal (the high-grade stuff needed for coking steel, they have plenty of sulfur-laden crap-coal domestically), OIL, export markets for cash (remember, the yuan is not a full participant in international financial systems; they do their external trade mostly in dollars, somewhat in Euros).
The iron and coal comes largely from Australia. Look at recent power politics being played between Australia and China over Chinese attempts to buy majority ownership in Australian mining companies; when Australia blocked those sales, the Chinese retaliated by jailing visiting Australian mining company executives as "spies". That incident didn't last long, but it shows the Chinese feeling of vulnerability and the willingness to play hardball to address that. The oil comes from all over the world. Almost all of it travels via sea. And the number one naval power in the world, by an overwhelming margin? The United States. Look at recent Chinese military efforts to develop a blue-water navy, to secure external naval ports in China-friendly host nations (Venezuela, Pakistan), and to seize the disputed Paracel and Spratley Islands, which have billions of barrels of suspected oil reserves.
Then recall the economic event which Japan used as a reason to attack the United States in 1941: the American and British decision to deny oil to Japan due to their "activities" in Japan. Everyone involved has knows this is something that can get out of hand.
Everybody gets what the majority deserves.
Why does China need Google? Is there anything Google does that Baidu can't, or won't be able to with a little motivation?
Google would thrive if China disappeared, sure. But if Google were forced out of China, to be replaced by Bing (for exampley), that would put them at a competitive disadvantage, even outside of China.
Well, this, for example. And I did say, "won't be the case forever." More to the point, so far as the Chinese citizenry is concerned, is the fact that Google isn't a Chinese operation, and indexes knowledge that Baidu would never be permitted to make available. Google, thanks to Sergey Brin's feelings on the matter, isn't likely to permit itself to be used to implicate Chinese citizens for crimes against the State. That attitude is precisely what this squabble is all about, and is why Bing, for example, isn't being treated the same way.
The higher the technology, the sharper that two-edged sword.
Half of China probably doesn't believe it's own propaganda.
I don't believe it for a second. Look how many Americans buy the propaganda fed to them by the government and the media. "This is the greatest country in the world," most Americans will tell you, without taking a second to challenge that notion objectively. You can feed a lot of propaganda to your people in the guise of patriotism.