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Anonymous Takes Down Turkish Government Site
arisvega writes with word that the group of hackers known as Anonymous "has taken down a Turkish government website in a protest against recently introduced Internet filters that many consider to be censorship. They also appear to have published a manifesto. Turkey has a long history of Internet censorship, with the country's ISPs having blocked YouTube and numerous other sites in the the past couple of years."
From the linked manifesto: "(The Turkish government) has blocked thousands of websites and blogs while abusive legal proceedings against online journalists persist. The government now wants to impose a new filtering system on the 22nd of August that will make it possible to keep records of all the people's internet activity. Though it remains opaque why and how the system will be put in place, it is clear that the government is taking censorship to the next level."
http://www.tib.gov.tr/
Is it just me or has the number of news stories relating to someone being hacked or DDOSd dramatically increased in the past few months?? From PSN (which I am a member of), to the wave of recent LulzSec and Anonymous stories, I cant ever remember a streak of hacking like this one. Loving equilibrium, I think It would be awesome if someone at least attempted to hack LulzSec. They seem less interested in making the world better like Anonymous, and more interested in just showing off their hax0rz skillz.
... they could actually find a TR government site that works.
... when they take the government down.
One of the people responsible for making injunctions against websites is Adnan Oktar, AKA Harun Yahya. Just another creotard but seemingly with a lot of power. Question, where does all the money come from to publish his "Atlas of Creation" and give it away free?
I'm really not sure we should be letting these guys into the EU until they start making some changes to the way they do things.
shame on islamist-fascist akp. the usa and obama (imperialist state) supports the akp and akp sent many intellectual and patriot people to prison and they welcomed the pkk terrorist at habur. we need another mustafa kemal to be independent again.
Is no one else concerned with the fact that these guys get to do whatever they want, to whom ever they want, and there are no repercussions? I understand the way Anonymous works, it's difficult to track these people down. But you can't tell me that with the recent trend in public hacks that many of them aren't performed by the same group of people.
Anonymous doesn't have any type of real leadership, and there has never been a very active group of core members, it's more or less "hey we're going to attack this site" and then a bunch of basement dwellers rise up and start DDoS'ing. After they get bored they leave and move on.. But many of these recent attacks have seemed more organized than previous Anonymous doings.
Are people not concerned with their actions? I understand that so far they've been doing things that people can agree with "LOLSONYREVIL" "TURKEYCENSORINTERNETS" and blah blah. But the more attention we give them, the bolder they're going to become.. what happens when they decide that they want to fuck with the US or the some major company in the States.. I don't think people will be quite so willing to wave off their actions then.
How big of a pipe does a country like Turkey really have?
Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
It is not related to the elections at all - it is against the the censorship regulations that will come into effect on August 22, which is proposed by TIB.
They also block sites that mention the fact that Ataturk was homosexual. (Ataturk is founder of the nation)
They think that is a blemish on the nation so they stick their head in the sand. it is why they have blocked youtube a couple of times for example.
giving shelter to Syrian citizens (refugees) from the persecution from the Syrian government & military right now...
Politics is Treachery, Religion is Brainwashing
The GDP per capita however would be 2nd from the bottom, between Bulgaria and Romania (source: wikipedia).
at first I Hoped it was because of turkey's continued denial of the Armenian Genocide.
What about folks like myself that use firewall rules tables & HOSTS files to filter out KNOWN BAD SITES that put malware onto your system?
What about DNS systems that do so, such as ScrubIT, OpenDNS, & Norton DNS also??
I.E.-> Is blocking out/filtering things that are KNOWN to screwup a person's machine (or worse, server systems that have great importance for whatever reasons) "censorship" to you?
I mean, if so? You guys have it ALL wrong...
APK
P.S.=> I know that the guys @ "LulzSec" aren't totally assinine & bogus: How so? Well...
Because they told the NHS they had problems, in exposing admin passwords, & telling them about it here http://uk.ibtimes.com/articles/160624/20110610/lulzsec-lulz-security-nhs-health-service-cyber-attack-weak-hack-hackers-hacked-sony-nintendo-network.htm
(Rather than abusing it)...
How about you guys @ "Anonymous"??? apk
How dare Turkey decide it has the power to decide what websites people should and shouldn't be allowed to visit and then deliberately block people from visiting unapproved websites... ...Only Anonymous is allowed to do that.
What about folks like myself that use firewall rules tables & HOSTS files to filter out KNOWN BAD SITES that put malware onto your system?
IS THAT "CENSORSHIP"?
What about DNS systems that do so, such as ScrubIT, OpenDNS, & Norton DNS also??
AGAIN - IS THAT "CENSORSHIP"?
I.E.-> Is blocking out/filtering things that are KNOWN to screwup a person's machine (or worse, server systems that have great importance for whatever reasons) "censorship" to you?
I mean, if so? You guys have it ALL wrong...
NOW - I know that the guys @ "LulzSec" aren't totally assinine & bogus: How so? Well...
Because they told the NHS they had problems, in exposing admin passwords, & telling them about it here http://uk.ibtimes.com/articles/160624/20110610/lulzsec-lulz-security-nhs-health-service-cyber-attack-weak-hack-hackers-hacked-sony-nintendo-network.htm
(Rather than abusing it)...
How about you guys @ "Anonymous"???
APK
P.S.=> To thecounterweight: YES - It's increased, massively, & you're NOT the only one noting it... a poster named KevMar submitted to the "recent" section here on the same note:
http://slashdot.org/journal/266490/Year-of-the-Hack
And, I can tell you, point-blank (from filling a HOSTS file & my firewall rules tables since 1997 vs. known bad sites & servers online that screw up your system) that all manner of online bogusness has increased... massively, & by MANY orders of magnitude.
E.G.-> Back in 1997-2007, I had MAYBE 500,000 entries of known bad sites/servers in my HOSTS file... now, since then? The growth is PHENOMENAL, & I have nearly 1, 430,000 entries...
I.E.-> I've had to NEARLY TRIPLE what I had in only 1/2 the time it took me to get to 500g's of entries!
(That tell you anything?)
They're doing it because nobody did anything about it or does anything about it... so they go with it! No consequences involved... & only NOW are gov't.'s & such doing a little about it, after massive damage has been done!
Nope, as-per-usual, it's "the community taking care of itself" & doing what I do: Protect yourself... nobody else will!
...apk
Shouldn't you try to take down the Chinese Firewall then? Why hasn't this been done yet by groups like Anonymous?
5 minutes time... easily. You don't need DDOS (multiple machines) to suck up the connections either: 1 single man can do it.
APK
P.S.=> Can you "counter" for it? Yes, & a couple ways:
I feel the 2nd is more effective, personally...
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1.) Via software OR hardware router firewall tables - IF you want to take that route, it's an ONGOING HASSLE, if the hacker/cracker KNOWS what they're doing, keeping @ it (that is, IF the hacker/cracker doesn't know ways around it, & trust me, there are that too)
AND, perhaps MORE EFFECTIVELY?
2.) Using features in your Operating System's IP Stack, such as that found in Windows!
E.G.=> SynAttackProtect , which tells the system in the case of the Syn-Ack type attack, to drop trying to re-communicate with systems that are "bombing you" with unrouteable requests...
In fact, here is a write up on that much:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc938202.aspx
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There you go!
(NOW - Hopefully, some Linux person will post the equitable substitute they use, & some Mac folks too, so others can GAIN by this on their platforms also!)
... apk
Otherwise? I know that governments (especially governments) FEAR dissent (because the BIGGEST FEAR OF THOSE IN POWER? LOSING THEIR POWER, of course)... I am just curious on these guys' "motivations" is all!
Like I showed in my posting though - you can see the "LulzSec" people doing something actually sort of "good" (in warning the NHS about exposed admin pwds)... but this "anonymous" faction? Who knows!
It's why I asked it (and you can almost BANK ON IT, they have people around here... this is rated by many places as "the #1 tech site online", E.G.-> http://www.topsite.com/best/tech )
APK
P.S.=> Trust me, I have read on this & everything like it I can find since 1995 or so, the ONLY time I was ever "hacked" & that was on IRC - where I learned about security really on the #Windows95 channel there, the "official help channel for Windows users" endorsed by K. Mardem Bey the creator of MIRC in those days - inspired me to TRY to help on the security front in fact (see below).
I've read extensively read about hacker/cracker types, and put out things to help "average joe" out there as best I could since 1997 (which Neowin picked up on in 2001 & rated highly http://www.neowin.net/news/apk-a-to-z-internet-speedup--security-text , & currently this version of that guide too:
http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&form=QBRE which wherever it was posted (almost) on 15/20 forums its on, was made either a:
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1.) Sticky/Pinned thread
2.) Essential Guide
3.) Most Viewed
4.) & even got me PAID (quite unexpectedly, @ the topmost results in that query no less - "The Lord works in MYSTERIOUS ways" is all I can say about that)
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In a way, I can see doing some of this stuff... but, eventually? These guys are making a BIG MISTAKE, because the worst thing a "criminal" can do?? UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER & KNOW-HOW OF THE LAW... apk
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Every time you find an Anonymous person. You cut them apart, with power tools on television. I mean it's all fun and games when you go after pussies who run banks and movie studios in the US but countries like Turkey or Russia's grasp of 'due process' is abstract, at best.
There's going to be a new reality show on tv - 'Pressure Drop', where they just take nerds and kick them out the helicopter.
And I'm ok with that.
thailand?
the list is long. and getting longer by the day.
Of the original batch I had "collected up" & found myself circa 1997-2007, which is a decade long span... albeit, that tripling came in less than 3 yrs. time & 3x to me? Is many orders of magnitude (especially over a timeframe (think differential equations)).
So, "nitpick all you want" but... there you go!
HOWEVER, while I'm here? This is what really "amazes" me, about 'humanity-in-general':
Do I think the gov't. of Turkey is right? No, but... I see their point (lame as it is, & transparent as it is: Those in POWER? Their BIGGEST FEAR is losing said power! They'll do ANYTHING to keep it - this eventually leads to their downfalls).
HOWEVER - That's just from MY perspective, & it's not MY place (or the USA, or anyone BUT Turkey) to make judgements (because my nation also pulls its share of shit, but it's not us regular folks, it's our leaders (and they sure aren't in gov't., that's for SURE & same with Turkish folks I imagine!))...
So - by way of comparison: Do I think the "hacker/cracker" guys are right, by the same token? No... but, I do see their point.
What they don't realize is, is this: Turkey's OWN people will figure it out, & do something about it... sticking your neck out, the way these "anonymous" guys are? Dumb... really dumb!
E.G.-> Ever seen the film, "Layer Cake"? If not, do...
Because the main character "XXX" makes a VERY powerful & true statement in it:
"KNOW & RESPECT YOUR ENEMY - IT IS ONLY VERY, VERY STUPID PEOPLE THAT THINK THE LAW IS STUPID... "
APK
P.S.=> They're not, & when pushed? Kevin Mitnick of ALL people could tell them that... they ought to learn by history on that note!
They're also forgetting this is a NATION, with all of a nation's resources - & one that stands to lose things, & that? That's one of the 2 most dangerous people there is (the man with everything to lose)...
The other is the man with nothing to lose! Anyhow - there you are, my rant on this entire fiasco & others like it (sooner or later, you're "going down" & that's all there is to it, IF you keep pushing)
Nations' do things like go to war, or blow folks away, when pushed... some "Food 4 Thought" for ANONYMOUS
... apk
It's not MY place, to tell Turks how to live (or "how to set in order their own house", so-to-speak)... by the same token, nor is it "Anonymous'" place either.
Sure - I heard they helped allegedly spark some revolutions elsewhere... they're dumb for it imo.
They're playing with fire man...
Turks? Hey - They aren't the USA, or the UK (nations who play things "by the law"), catch my drift?
They're "the man with EVERYTHING to lose" & they may not play by the same rules as you saw, say, Kevin Mitnick or Gary McKinnon, get (trials & prison etc.).
They might track these "anonymous" people, who *THINK* they're untouchable (they're not, trust me), & just dust them.
Sound nuts? Think about it, IF You were the turks & stood to lose control. Put yourself in THEIR shoes. Setting an example, a RADICAL example, often "cools a lot of folks' jets", & fast.
Do I think the Turks are right? No, by no means, but... they'll burn themselves in the end pulling games like this (people, sooner or later, don't take shit - especially if it comes to their kids starving OR being killed).
Do I think "Anonymous" is right?? Not really, but I see their point... I just think they're letting their prior "games" get to their heads & egos. They're very foolish keeping it up is all. People like gov't.'s & NON- US/UK gov'ts?? Do NOT play by the USA/UK "legal rules"... they dust people if pushed.
That's all I am saying.
APK
P.S.=> I said this in another reply here, it fits:
E.G.-> Ever seen the film, "Layer Cake"? If not, do...
Because the main character "XXX" makes a VERY powerful & true statement in it:
"KNOW & RESPECT YOUR ENEMY - IT IS ONLY VERY, VERY STUPID PEOPLE THAT THINK THE LAW IS STUPID... "
... apk
That's don't pull crap like DoS/DDoS attacks then (IF you're doing so).
APK
P.S.=> Yes, it's THAT simple... apk
If I caught your intended meaning: For all ANYBODY knows? This is another agency entirely pulling the crap, & calling themselves "anonymous" (or "lulzsec" for that matter).
Who knows who REALLY is this "anonymous" group!
(Because as I am sure you all have heard OR read the past few days now? Hacker/Cracker types get "busted", even these guys... what happens with them?? Well, "Dead, Jail, or 'Rock-N-Roll'" (rock & roll being put into work for those they 'attacked', happens more than you'd think) but either way - not good!)
Whether it's true or not also, I've been reading that a lot of these guys that do get caught, get put into the 'employ' of state agencies, to do their work for them!
(Be it legit stoppage of others doing 'hack/crack' work, OR, illegitimate stuff too, & calling themselves "anonymous" for all we know).
That's the problem - none of us has the REAL story here: It could be anyone, hiding who's REALLY "@ the wheel" of this madness-N-lunacy in other words.
No... until the "wild west online" subsides? It's just best to protect yourself as best you can, imo @ least. Messing with LARGE powerful corporate entities OR nations?? Bad business - dangerous business.
APK
P.S.=> Heh, what makes me sickest of all, about the world today? Loads, and LOADS, of deceits... I mean, why "besmirch your own reputation", when you can have "anon" take the blame, right (which is what I think you meant)? OR, get a couple of your "enemies" to 'dust' one another... while you sit back in the wings, laughing & gaining by it!
... apk
What was it? turkmenbashi or smth?
... called "Anonymous". A group is defined as not only people sharing the same motives and taking concurrent actions, but also some "working together" routine, organization, and structure.
All of this is missing in Anonymous; it's more like a swarm, then a group.
This critic is similar to that one could state against the idea of having a "Anonymous Leader" arrested in Spain.
There is no defined leader in a swarm of birds, as they are not really a group; they just coincidently fly together into the same direction. If you are interested in such logical rule-based swarm "auto"-coordination, check out the Sanderling, which is a little bird occupying many seasides. You will see hunt through flat waters in something that looks like "groups" of birds, but in reality, those are not at all tied together, and just coincidently appear in the same place at the same time doing the same thing.
I don't agree with what they do (as I don't do their "tactics" myself but I could easily (so could anyone with the right tools & know how because doing a DDoS or DoS as I noted earlier here? Cake. Same with finding sites vulnerable to SQL Injection (hell, even GOOGLE can find THAT for you, & rather easily, with the RIGHT type of query)).
However: They DO POINT OUT WHAT NEEDS FIXING! Just like malware makers do...
That's about ALL they do that is "good" (that's my way of being an "optimist" here is all - I don't like malware makers or hacker/crackers anymore than anyone else does, especially their victims - in fact, if you look below? I've spent a great deal of time helping others protect themselves from guys like them both).
In my earlier posts here, however?
I do point out a time when "LulzSec" actually HELPED the NHS by pointing out their admin passwords were exposed here:
http://uk.ibtimes.com/articles/160624/20110610/lulzsec-lulz-security-nhs-health-service-cyber-attack-weak-hack-hackers-hacked-sony-nintendo-network.htm
AND, believe-it-or-not? LulzSec warned them, & how to fix it + where (rather than they taking advantage of it for "nefarious purposes")...
So, it seems they're not "all bad"! Fact is, from their point-of-view?? I don't believe they think they ARE "doing wrong". They believe in what they're doing is all.
Do I think they believe in what they're doing?
Yes, & perhaps especially in this case... but, it's still a BAD MOVE for them! They'll get traced & caught, & it's only a matter of time - & the kind of people they're messing with now in governments of nations? DUMB & DANGEROUS!
(Man... trust me on that much, I've seen it before, decades ago, with others like them)
APK
P.S.=> Now, personally? I've read extensively read about hacker/cracker types, and put out things to help "average joe" out there as best I could since 1997 (which Neowin picked up on in 2001 & rated highly http://www.neowin.net/news/apk-a-to-z-internet-speedup--security-text , & currently this version of that guide too:
http://www.bing.com/search?q=%22HOW+TO+SECURE+Windows+2000%2FXP%22&go=&form=QBRE which wherever it was posted (almost) on 15/20 forums its on, was made either a:
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1.) Sticky/Pinned thread
2.) Essential Guide
3.) Most Viewed
4.) 5/5 star rated
5.) & even got me PAID (quite unexpectedly, @ the topmost results in that query no less - "The Lord works in MYSTERIOUS ways" is all I can say about that)
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Eventually though? These guys @ BOTH "LulzSec" and "Anonymous" (assuming they're not just puppets for some other organization that is) are making a BIG MISTAKE imo, because the worst thing a "criminal" can do??
UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER & KNOW-HOW OF THE LAW... they're already being tracked & caught for Pete's sake as is... apk
Turkish Police Detain 32 Suspected Hackers Linked to Anonymous:
http://www.securityweek.com/turkish-police-detain-32-suspected-hackers-linked-anonymous
(In fact, that's the 2nd round of them I've seen get caught thusfar... & more ARE coming!)
APK
P.S.=> It's not a joke to the turks, & they're coming after YOU, "anonymous" (I hate to say it but... told you so, & I've been it before)
... apk
Turkish Police Detain 32 Suspected Hackers Linked to Anonymous:
http://www.securityweek.com/turkish-police-detain-32-suspected-hackers-linked-anonymous
(In fact, that's the 2nd round of them I've seen get caught thusfar - Spain was 1st... & more ARE coming!)
APK
P.S.=> It's not a joke to the turks, & they're coming after YOU, "anonymous" (I hate to say it but... told you so, & I've been it before)
... apk
Turkish Police Detain 32 Suspected Hackers Linked to Anonymous:
http://www.securityweek.com/turkish-police-detain-32-suspected-hackers-linked-anonymous
(In fact, that's the 2nd round of them I've seen get caught thusfar, 1st was in Spain... & more ARE coming!)
APK
P.S.=> It's not a joke to the turks, & they're coming after YOU, "anonymous" (I hate to say it but... told you so, & I've been it before)
... apk
First of all, tib.gov.tr was unaccessible only for first 15 minutes. Is it fair to say it is hacked? DOS attacks makes site unreachable because of huge bandwith usage.
Secondly, TIB announced that filtering will be optional. If someone wish to set filter for his/her/ children usage, than filter can be set, otherwise nothing will be different from current usage. It can be said as "free web filtering service". Thirdly, why didn't you give news about ayyildiz white hacker team? They really hacked annonymous group's servers and got all ip addresses of injected computer(which anonymous was planning to use in dos attack).
(Last message of mine about this subject was banned. I hope you do not do "real cencorship" on my messages)
Because I did put up SynAttackProtect (which may even have an analog on MacOS X &/or Linux, because the IP stacks are derived from BSD originals, just as Windows IP stack is), as well as using firewalling (in software OR hardware) rules tables to stop contact with anyone repeatedly attacking via DoS or DDoS attacks (but this is the weaker method, by far, but still a way).
APK
I don't know how many of you know the story of Kevin Mitnick, but... he "threw it in the law's face" too. Look where it got him.
I.E.-> He taunted this alleged "cyber samurai" the authorities hired to track him, and yes, Mitnick repeatedly "burned" him.
(That got that guy's gander up. He ended up eventually catching Mitnick).
APK
P.S.=> It's probably THE worst thing you can do imo @ least, when you're the "bad guy", because law enforcement IS "the man" and in "the right", according to law, whether these "hacker/cracker" types like it, or not - pissing them off, & making them look bad? Especially when their bosses put THEM into the "hot seat" to catch you as the hacker/cracker?
DUMB! Especially repeatedly, because as I said here earlier?? Sooner or later, you're going down - they've got TOO MUCH on their side is why... apk
Understand? See subject... you bolded "group" while quoting me, so I assume you have a problem with me calling "anonymous" a group.
APK