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Galaxy Tab 10.1 Judged 'No Match For iPad'

tripleevenfall writes "Clayton Morris reviews the Galaxy Tab 10.1, and finds it lacking, especially at the $400 price point, saying 'I can't in good conscience tell you to go out and spend $400 on this half-baked experience when the fully baked iPad experience can be had for just a few dollars more.'"

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  1. fdsa by smileygladhands · · Score: 3, Funny

    Who is Clayton Morris?

    1. Re:fdsa by rotide · · Score: 4, Informative

      Per Wikipedia:

      "Clayton Morris (born December 31, 1976) is a current co-host of Fox & Friends Weekend on Fox News Channel and a former co-host of the syndicated The Daily Buzz. In addition to his work at FNC, Morris runs a media consulting company called Action Now Consultant Group. Morris has also appeared as a guest host of CNET's Podcast The 404. Morris co-hosts a weekly podcast with childhood friend, professional wrestler Mike Quackenbush called The Grizzly Bear Egg Cafe. Every Friday Morris hosts Gadgets & Games on Strategy Room on the Fox website."

      In other words, a guy who has no credentials except media wanker. And he likes iPads.

    2. Re:fdsa by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Clayton Morris (born December 31, 1976) is a current co-host of Fox & Friends Weekend on Fox News Channel

      Which of course makes him eminently qualified to judge technology. I certainly, for one, will henceforth base all of my technology purchases on the opinions of Mr Morris.

      Morris runs a media consulting company called Action Now Consultant Group

      Ah, Marketing... what hath thou wrought, goddess?

      And anyone who dares to suggest that someone who is paid to use media to manage peoples' perception of things might be taking money to manage peoples' perception of things is a dirty liar, and I shall stand as Clayton Morris' champion to fight for his honour (which is almost certainly more than he's ever done).

      Fox News...you've got to be fucking kidding me. What's next, Steve Jobs' picks for the top handheld devices of 2011?

      Now, having gotten all that out of the way, can we please have the name of whoever selected a story for the front page of Slashdot based on the opinion of someone from Fox News' "Fox & Friends Weekend"? I would like to know who should henceforth carry the appellation, title, designation of "The Internet's Biggest Fucking Idiot, June 17, 2011".

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    3. Re:fdsa by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Huh? Why did you skip the part about him being their "Games & Gadgets" guy? I mean, not that being a TV personality that reviews gadgets necessarily makes a person qualified to do so, but it's not like it's uncommon for someone who reviews gadgets for a living to... well... review a gadget. Nor is it uncommon for these peoples opinions to make their way to slashdot. But suddenly everyone is shocked and appalled by this one?

      Or are you just flipping your shit because you saw the words "Fox News" somewhere...

      I don't like that station either man, but that's one helluva transparent reaction.

  2. So what by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Of all the different reviews of the 10.1 on the net why is this short, incomplete article from some-one i've never heard of so important?

    1. Re:So what by The13thSin · · Score: 4, Informative

      How did this even get through the Firehose? Guess there are a lot more Apple fanboys on Slashdot then I thought... Even an Engadget review would've been more in-depth and useful than this one... and that's saying something...

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  3. Terrible Review by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My favorite part was how he said he didn't like it. I also liked how all 65,000 apps were junk. Methinks there's an apple in his pocket.

  4. What a worthless review by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Any reviewer who can say "Samsung has included about six apps of their own on top of the standard Android package. Subtract them and you're left with a bunch of shoddy applications that aren't really made for Honeycomb" and then never even discuss these apps is either a moron or an Apple fanboy. Since the review is on Fox News, I'd tend to the former. But I do tend to see this crap when ever somebody compares something to the iPad. One reviewer once said that the Blackberry pad was too small at 7" and then turned around and said another pad (I don't think it was the Tab, maybe the Zoom) was too large at 10.1". I do think Honeycomb is too soon and not ready, but these reviews are worse than useless.

    1. Re:What a worthless review by jamesh · · Score: 3, Insightful

      is either a moron or an Apple fanboy.

      ... but you repeat yourself

  5. iPad fanboy checking in . . . by bedouin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This article sucked even by my nuthugging standards.

  6. Much more detailed review at Ars by MBCook · · Score: 5, Informative

    Ars Technica has a much more detailed review. All and all, it sounds like a nice device if you don't want an iPad.

    The thing that struck me reading the review (and they commented on this very well) was just how much work seemed unfinished. A couple of times they mentioned "(blah blah blah) but Samsung says that will come in a future update." The amount of "it'll be here later" on the products launching lately seems horrible. How many features on the iPad were listed on the box and in the marketing material but didn't come out until a later software update? How many were there on the BlackBerry tablet? Even the Nintendo 3DS did this.

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    1. Re:Much more detailed review at Ars by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It depends on how you judge them, really.

      On the one hand, Apple is typically very unlikely to promise a given feature on the box and not ship it, or show of a prototype before it is already in production. If anything, they tend in the opposite direction, being as tight-lipped as possible about upcoming plans and publicly rubbishing product categories that they don't consider sufficiently mature.

      On the other hand, if you observe the history of changes in iOS devices since their debut, the number of features that started out missing(including minor niceties like cut and paste, and 3rd party applications that had been around for years on other platforms) and "came in a future update" is pretty large.

      Either way, Samsung is in sort of a bad spot, since playing catch-up makes what you haven't delivered yet much more galling for the potential customer.

    2. Re:Much more detailed review at Ars by 0123456 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      On the other hand, if you observe the history of changes in iOS devices since their debut, the number of features that started out missing(including minor niceties like cut and paste, and 3rd party applications that had been around for years on other platforms) and "came in a future update" is pretty large.

      Apple's approach seems to be to tell you that you don't need that feature and then release it later, whereas companies who can't get away with implying that their customers are idiots have to promise to release it later.

    3. Re:Much more detailed review at Ars by hitmark · · Score: 4, Informative

      Huh? Jobs specifically said "people do not read" as a dismissal of ebook about a year before Apple launched a ebook section of their app store.

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    4. Re:Much more detailed review at Ars by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Apple's approach seems to be to tell you that you don't need that feature and then release it later

      Apple never says you "don't need something", they say they want to wait until they can do the feature well before they ship it.

      It's better to under-promise and over-deliver, than the reverse... you'll find that's true in all sorts of things.

      Yeah, it's not like Apple ever said you didn't need 3G on your phone (since it would kill battery life) or how you don't need multitasking (since it would kill battery life), , or you don't need a front facing camera on your iPad (for no apparent reason). Oh wait, they did say all these things. They especially criticized 3G and multitasking.

    5. Re:Much more detailed review at Ars by node+3 · · Score: 5, Informative

      The very things you wrote fit what SuperKendall wrote, not contradict it!

      Yeah, it's not like Apple ever said you didn't need 3G on your phone (since it would kill battery life)

      They *didn't* say you don't need it. They said it killed battery life. And it *DID*. Newer chips use less power. At the time, 3G phones tended to have awful battery life when 3G was enabled. Now they don't. Now the same is true of 4G phones. And then it won't be. Also, 3G wasn't widely deployed, just as 4G isn't yet either. But, just like 3G, it will be.

      or how you don't need multitasking (since it would kill battery life)

      And it does. Which is why Apple implemented a multitasking system which works well without leading to battery problems.

      And they never said, "you don't need multitasking".

      or you don't need a front facing camera on your iPad (for no apparent reason)

      And they never said you don't need a front facing camera.

      This is exactly what SuperKendall was saying. Apple doesn't go around saying, "you don't need this". They just don't implement something until they can do it well. 3G waited for better chips. Multitasking waited for a better task model. Front facing camera waited for FaceTime and simply just when the hardware was added.

  7. Well, duh? by Gaygirlie · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you want an iPad-like experience then OBVIOUSLY iPad is the way to go. Vice versa, if you want an Android experience Galaxy Tab 10.1 is a very good, solid choice.

    Sheer flamebait article.

    1. Re:Well, duh? by AmberBlackCat · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I haven't read the article and don't care to. But I'd like to note, my guy wanted to avoid the iPad and was all for Android. He tried some Viewsonic tablet. He had problems with the screen quality and the pressure-sensitive screen instead of a capacitive screen. And other general problems. Then he tried an Archos 70. He had problems with the sound and viewing angles, and some weird overheating issue. Then he got a Motorola Xoom. The memory card slot has an I-O-U on it, promising it will work one day even though the package says it has a memory card slot now. He also said it was slow to respond and had a dark screen. Finally he got an iPad. While it's not perfect, he's finally happy. All the while, his Android phone is flaking out.

      So maybe the article is bad. But it is possible Apple has the best tablet, at least for some people, even if they're biased in favor of Android.

    2. Re:Well, duh? by TUOggy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The thing is, at the moment, why would anyone want an Android experience except for diehard Android geeks?

      There are a lot of non-Android geeks who prefer an Android tablet over an iPad, despite the bugs, and the lack of shipped features.

      I bought a Xoom after it came out, and I am much happier with it than I was with the iPad. This is due to the fact that many of the websites that I visit have not been optimized for the mobile Safari, and either didn't look good, or simply didn't work at all.
      One of the other things that really bothered me about the iPad was Apple's stranglehold over the App market. Yes, it is well organized and easy to use, but what if there's an app that's not there, wasn't accepted into the store for one of their many thousands of reasons they block useful apps, but the Dev is still willing to sell it? With Apple, there's no way to do this without jailbreaking your iDevice, installing Cydia, voiding your warranty, etc. With Android, you can get the app from anywhere, and easily install it without going through a store or having to break the warranty.

      To me, the iPad was just an over-sized iPod Touch. It doesn't feel like a computing device at all. You can't even use it as a file storage device without downloading special apps. The Xoom feels much more like an actual computing device. I can navigate its files and folders easily. I can utilize its storage. I can use it the way I want to, and I don't have to worry about the way the manufacturer thinks I *SHOULD* be using it as is the case with the iDevices.

      Having said all this, I've had an iPhone since the first one came out. I love it, but I don't consider it to be a computing device. It's just a phone with some extra features. So, consider that before you label me a diehard Android geek.

  8. Engadget Review by Nikkos · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/08/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-review/

    They griped about no SD card slot, but gave it a 8/10. I'd trust them a hell of a lot more than Clayton Morris...

  9. Just played with one... by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Coincidentally, I was just playing with one at Best Buy today, and I have to say that it doesn't suck nearly as much as other iPad competitors. But that's somewhat damning it with faint praise. The interface is still much more sluggish and choppy than an iPad. The screen still doesn't feel nearly as precise. Given that the price is the same as the iPad, there really isn't any reason not to get an iPad, unless you really just hate Apple. Yes, it does run Flash (and the Flash ads work very well), but other than that, I didn't see anything it did that the iPad didn't do better. And they STILL haven't figured out that widescreen sucks for this form factor because it makes portrait orientation useless.

    That said, it doesn't give nearly the "They have got to be kidding me with this piece of crap" feeling that previous attempts at iPad competitors give (like the Playbook, for example. My GOD what the hell were they thinking? Absolute garbage.)

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  10. Subtract them? by superdave80 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    FTFR:

    ...Samsung has included about six apps of their own on top of the standard Android package. Subtract them and you're left with a bunch of shoddy applications...

    What the hell does that even mean? Why would you 'subtract them'? If they suck, say so. But to just toss out a part of the product and say what's left is bad is just moronic.

    There are a bunch of other Android apps, of course -- 65,000 of them or so -- but very few quality ones, and there are very few application developers who are really sinking their teeth into this platform at this to date.

    So, there are 65,000 apps, but few developers? Also, he keeps going on and on about apps, but doesn't give a single example of what is wrong with even one of those apps, or what critical apps are missing. Who let this guy on the internet?

  11. Re:Galaxy Tab has a better screen. by clarkn0va · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'd be happier if I could run windows 7 on it, and I'm sure there's a way

    It's not as hard as you think. Just take the Windows 7 source code and recompile the whole thing for ARM. Sit back and enjoy a glass of root beer and let the compiler do the rest.

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  12. Re:What's the iPad experience? by pandrijeczko · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Personally, I think far too many people have got lost in all the hype & marketing over tablets without stopping to think about the possibility that maybe they're just gimmicks anyway, whether iPad or Galaxy Tab.

    Smartphones provide a lot in the way of communications, IM and playing music, their weaknesses are down to the screen sizes if you want to play a reasonably good game or watch some video.

    A notebook or netbook has the bigger screen to do that, plus it has they have tactile keyboards so you can do serious work on them - something a tablet is not very good at.

    So whilst a tablet would fit somewhere between a smartphone and netbook, it clearly is unable to replace either which means it just becomes a third device to carry around with you. And I thought the whole premise behind portability was being able to carry around less.

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