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Man Robs Bank of $1 To Get Health Care In Jail

f1vlad writes "A 59-year-old man has been jailed in Gastonia, N.C., on charges of larceny after allegedly robbing an RBC Bank for $1 so he could get health care in prison. Richard James Verone handed a female teller a note demanding the money and claiming that he had a gun, according to the police report."

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  1. Sad, but I can see doing it too by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you can't get a job, that's about the quickest, easiest way to get healthcare in the U.S. The healthcare isn't great in jails and prisons, but it beats the hell out of nothing.

    For those of you fortunate enough to live in developed countries, let me break down the U.S. system for you. Here are the only ways to get healthcare in the U.S.:

    1) Go to prison or jail. Not the best care, but beats nothing
    2) Be real poor. This will usually qualify you for Medicaid--which sucks, but is also better than nothing.
    3) Be a child. There are usually programs for providing healthcare for kids.
    4) Be over 65. This will qualify you for Medicare--which isn't the best by a longshot (many doctors won't accept it) but it's a lot better than Medicaid
    5) Get a job with benefits. This means a full-time job (working as a cashier at Walmart won't cut it). Better come armed with a college degree. Quality is all over the map.
    6) Join the military. Very good healthcare. But this could involve getting shot at.
    7) Become a Congressman of other high-ranking government official. Best fucking care you can get. Expect gold-plated bedpans for yourself and your family, even as you rail against government-supported healthcare for everyone else.

    Of course, you can also elect to pay for it yourself. But, if you have ever seen what even basic healthcare costs in the U.S., you will realize this is impractical for anyone who isn't Bill Gates. A single emergency room visit could easily bankrupt even a moderately well-off individual. And don't even THINK about having surgery unless you've got a mansion to mortgage.

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    1. Re:Sad, but I can see doing it too by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 5, Insightful

      1) Go to prison or jail. Not the best care, but beats nothing

      No always. Take a look at California's prison healthcare issues. This guy will probably be charged by the state (instead of federal) and the state may even deal with him as a non-violent offender who gets house arrest (and has to pay for his own monitoring). The DA & prosecutor aren't stupid - they'll want to discourage this type of activity.

    2. Re:Sad, but I can see doing it too by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 5, Insightful

      young.

      yes, yes, you skip over the most obvious thing.

      I'm nearly 50. I'm not in bad health but things do get worse over time, as you get older. they just do.

      enjoy your youth and $150/mo payment. it won't last forever. remember this post in 20 or 30 years time.

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    3. Re:Sad, but I can see doing it too by gclef · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "Americans can always be counted on to do the right thing...after they have exhausted all other possibilities."
          -- Winston Churchill

    4. Re:Sad, but I can see doing it too by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So, you can get health insurance for your family for 10,000 to 15,000 per year, and not have to pay much else.

      Tell me, do you actually consider your words before you start typing away? Do you have any idea how much money that is to the average family in the U.S.? The average household income in the U.S. is $31,000. And that's before taxes, rent, food, etc. Do you really think someone making $31K a year can afford $10K-$15 just for health insurance?

      Are you high, or just fucking stupid?

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    5. Re:Sad, but I can see doing it too by Intrepid+imaginaut · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's pretty much it. This has to be one of the saddest stories I've ever heard.

    6. Re:Sad, but I can see doing it too by geekoid · · Score: 4, Insightful

      " Universal care in other countries doesn't fix this. "
      Yes, in fact it can.

      Remember, much of are cots are acquired because we DON"T have UHC.

      Poor women go into ER to complain about 'Chest pains' and then mention they might be pregnant to gt a pregnancy kit. So they get 2000 in tests when all they really needed was a 15 dollar pregnancy kit.

      People go to ER to get treated for something that would have been substantial cheaper if they had access to a doctor to get treated right away instead of having to wait for an emergency.

      Dental issues are seldom considered an emergency.. until it's so infected that have to go to the ER because the infection is spreading to the brain.

      People get minimum they needed to get to treat the emergency, not the underling problem, so they come back every time a chronic problem becomes and emergency.

      And so on..

      We do pay for this, with higher Dr. and hospital costs, higher insurance rates.

      This doesn't even get into how not having UHC strangles many small and growing business.
      Get to a point where you need senior people? you will need to provide health care for those employees. This costs business a lot of money. If we all paid with taxes, then there would be less of a burden an small business.

      UHC lowers the cost of health. The market, by it's very nature, will not help people. There is NO competing for 50% of the population. given a free market, they have no choice.

      You're solution leads to great and cheep healthcare for the most well off people only, because insurance is about offsetting costs. SO it's in the business best interest to insure you until you leave the optimal area. so if your re 18-30, and make 150K+ a year, the 'free market' will be happy to help you.

      This is shown in history.

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    7. Re:Sad, but I can see doing it too by Hylandr · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Welcome to the US legal health system.

      FTFY.

      - Dan.

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  2. Yeap by ciderbrew · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's the way to do it when you've got nothing. How awful must his life have been to think that prison is a step up.
    I love the NHS.

  3. Sounds like The Onion by Relyx · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When I saw this story appear in my feed, I thought it was an article from The Onion. My god...

  4. Re:Why bother? by hedwards · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It never ceases to surprise me just how OK Americans are with rape, so long as the person being raped isn't a woman. Perhaps before we start lecturing other nations about human rights abuses, we might want to remember that there is a prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment, and only the most narrow minded of people would consider prison conditions to not be a part of the punishment.

  5. Re:Sad state of by sqrt(2) · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Then I have some really bad news for you.

    You're ALREADY paying for all those people you are so don't like. Yes, it's true, you pay in form of taxes which cover ER visits that never get paid by poor people (who are often also unhealthy, go figure); you pay in the form of higher insurance premiums so that health care can be profitable (and because the pool of people is much smaller); you pay in the form of your business having less healthy employees; you pay in the form of a more dangerous society, as more people get pushed into crime because they cannot afford to care for themselves even working full time.

    The jokes is really on you, because if you'd give up your ideological hatred for those people and for the idea that some social problems can be best tackled collectively through strategic actions by government, you'd end up paying less in taxes to cover Universal Healthcare than you currently pay for private insurance and all the unseen costs of having the terrible system we have today in the US.

    I understand your frustration, but you're advocating a position that actually ends up being counter productive to your stated goals.

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  6. Re:Sad state of by TheSpoom · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Now how are your strategic actions by the government going to help me end up paying less in taxes to cover that person's lung cancer?

    Because the US is (at least in theory) a civilized country, meaning that the person with lung cancer is going to be covered every time he goes to the ER anyway, as hospitals cannot refuse to give life-saving care. You're almost certainly paying more for the emergency care as they die than you would to give them the care they need to live.

    If you are in fact arguing that hospitals should refuse life-saving care on the basis of a lack of insurance, you're a horrible human being.

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  7. Re:the tea party and libertarian view of the usa by bussdriver · · Score: 4, Insightful

    nope. Americans are suckered by propaganda; its all about emotions and not about facts and results. Just like global warming, for too many citizens its about their personal identity as a conservative or whatever and they can't be what they want/believe they are (and what is best) if they hold opposition positions-- its like the issues were made part of the definition of what they are... and they have been and it has been done under their nose--- instead of having them define their group they wish to belong to they define themselves to fit within the group. Ironic they are also such individualists...

  8. Reintegration -- a sop by fyngyrz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sure they have programs to let ex-cons re-enter the society

    These are sops; ex-cons are flat-out unemployable. Heck, even if you're *not* a con it's tough to find a job for most people. But if you are... you're done. You're never, ever going to re-integrate with society unless you have resources of your own that make getting a job unnecessary.

    The US is in the active process of creating a permanently unemployable underclass, consumed by rage and resentment, with a constantly increasing pool of criminal skills. The next "war" will be against this self-inflicted injury to society, and you can bet your last red cent it will consume the tattered rags of liberty remaining to non-felons today... felons are just a little ahead of the curve.

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  9. "in the active process of..." by Benfea · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Are you [bad word] kidding me? In the process of creating a permanently unemployable underclass? As in present progressive tense? No, you should use the past tense. Try "have created" instead.

    The conservatives and libertarians threw much of our rights under the bus in order to elect "tough on crime" candidates. Not only did this undermine our constitutional rights and create a giant prison industry that rivals the military industrial complex (why didn't anyone hold their feet to the fire for massively expanding government while campaigning as the "small government" crowd?), but creating a permanently unemployable underclass was the whole [bad word] point.

    Conservative/libertarian economic philosophy has been undermining the middle class since the days of Reagan. One of the ways conservatives and libertarians have been able to mask this fact was by transferring large numbers of the working poor into prison, thus reducing job-seeking competition for people falling from the middle class into the upper reaches of the working poor. Without this part of the strategy, those riots you see in Wisconsin, Michigan and other places would have started happening a long time ago.