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An Entirely New Class of Aircraft Arrives

fergus07 writes "Austrian research company IAT21 has presented a new type of aircraft at the Paris Air Show, which has the potential to become aviation's first disruptive technology since the jet engine. Neither fixed wing nor rotor craft, the D-Dalus uses four mechanically-linked, contra-rotating, cylindrical turbines for its propulsion, and by altering the angle of the blades, it can launch vertically, hover perfectly still, move in any direction, and thrust upwards and hence 'glue down' upon landing, which it can easily do on the deck of a ship, or even a moving vehicle. It's also almost silent, has the dynamic stability to enter buildings, handles rough weather with ease, flies very long distances very quickly and can lift very heavy loads. It accordingly holds immense promise as a platform for personal flight, for military usage, search and rescue, and much more."

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  1. It's an entirely different kind of flying. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's an entirely different kind of flying, altogether.

  2. Anything else? by jamesl · · Score: 3, Insightful

    And it will bring us world peace, end hunger and cure cancer.

    This shows the value of issuing press releases.

    1. Re:Anything else? by ygslash · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This shows the value of issuing press releases.

      The company's web site is a small self-consciously slick flash site. It contains only a few short press releases about this and several other technologies, each with similarly outlandish world-changing claims and supposedly already built and working.

      According to Google Maps, the corporate address on the web site points to what appears to be a private home in a fancy neighborhood in Linz.

  3. Voith Schneider Propeller by bre_dnd · · Score: 5, Informative
    It looks like the Voith Schneider Propeller as used on tugboats: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voith_Schneider_Propeller -- but spinning faster, displacing air instead of water, and rotated so it can generate up/downward thrust.

    The wikipedia page also has an animation showing how it works.

  4. Still not quite there... by nikolardo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "I am now planning aerial machines devoid of sustaining planes, ailerons, propellers, and other external attachments, which will be capable of immense speeds"

    "You should not be at all surprised, if some day you see me fly from New York to Colorado Springs in a contrivance which will resemble a gas stove and weigh as much. ... and could, if necessary enter and depart through a window."

    "The flying machine of the future -- my flying machine -- will be heavier than air, but it will not be an airplane. It will have no wings. It will be substantial, solid, stable. You cannot have a stable airplane. The gyroscope can never be successfully applied to the airplane, for it would give a stability that would result in the machine being torn to pieces by the wind, just as the unprotected airplane on the ground is torn to pieces by a high wind. My flying machine will have neither wings nor propellers. You might see it on the ground and you would never guess that it was a flying machine. Yet it will be able to move at will through the air in any direction with perfect safety, at higher speeds than have yet been reached, regardless of weather and oblivious of 'holes in the air' or downward currents. It will ascend in such currents if desired. It can remain absolutely stationary in the air even in a wind for great length of time. Its lifting power will not depend upon any such delicate devices as the bird has to employ, but upon positive mechanical action."

    -Nikola Tesla

  5. "Immense Promise" requires Efficiency by randyjparker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Thirty years ago I was in the Propulsion & Thermodynamics group at Lockheed. One of the guys had a research project on spanwise rotor propulsion - his proof of concept used a beefed up cylindrical hair dryer rotor of the day. Yeah, you can get some net thrust, but at nowhere near the efficiency of conventional designs. There has to be a really strong reason to sacrifice all the extra fuel and weight and safety deficits when compared to better techniques. Perhaps there are niches where the tradeoffs are worth it, but that is not what I'd call "immense promise". Let's see what kind of thrust-to-weight, lift-to-drag, and thrust-specific-fuel-consumption their aircraft can produce first...

  6. Re:Manned flight by mcelrath · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm not so sure. Assuming this is a variation on the Voith Schneider Propeller, consider a configuration of the cylinder of propellers with all the airfoils parallel, and pointed in the direction of flight (so the direction of flight is perpendicular to the cylinder's axis). That's essentially just six stacked wings in an odd configuration, kind of like a triplane. If you have enough forward velocity to maintain lift, all you need to do is lock the airfoils in place. By changing the angle of attack on some of them you can emulate flaps, and increase the lift. The compact configuration of wings would have lots of drag, but you could add fixed wings on the outside to help.

    I think this thing can glide.

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  7. Re:This plane has four mechanically-linked turbine by MrFurious5150 · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's an entirely different kind of flying. :D

  8. lol by gavron · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is it April 1st, or just slashdot mods got bored?

    As a pilot and an engineer... the sheer amount of bs in one article stymies the ability to say anything else!

    Silent turbines? Do you know how a turbine works? Definitionally it moves amazing amounts of air (and fuel). Air movement = sound. It can't be silent.

    It can "hover" into a building? Do you know how the threshold between "Hey we're just outside the window" and "oh now we're 2ft above the 3rd floor" and "yeah now our exhaust has nowhere to go" works?

    It can "glue itself down to a deck of a ship"? How many aircraft have been swept off a deck of a carrier after landing? NONE! Gravity keeps them there. Sure, the engines can generate more than 1G of lift ... but if you need 2G to stick the aircraft to the ground... get a nice tether because you have one really expensive balloon!

    Ridiculous.

    Is it April 1?

    E
    Full disclosure: I am a licensed rotorcraft pilot. That means I fly helicopters. They don't have silent counter-rotating turbines (lol) and don't "stick to the deck."

    1. Re:lol by Goldenhawk · · Score: 5, Informative

      >How many aircraft have been swept off a deck of a carrier after landing? NONE! Gravity keeps them there.

      Sorry to argue but the answer is not "NONE", it's PLENTY. Gravity's great, but have you ever really watched a ship move in heavy seas? 30+ degree rolls are not uncommon, and when big pitching motion is encountered, the deck can actually move out from underneath you at nearly 0g.

      I work around a bunch of guys who test carrier-based rotorcraft for the US Navy, and I can tell you (from having watched more than a few of the horror-story videos from testing) that this is a very real risk.

      Here's a prime example from real life.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZSc5T-iUO4
      Sorry, but gravity didn't really do much to help here.

      More short clips of ugly sea conditions:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4MbCu_YRM4
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3Mwd-3Kf-4 (0:33 and on)

      Sticking a helo to the deck in rolling seas is NOT a trivial business, and downthrust or some mechanical hold-down is essential. It's not such a big deal for a carrier which doesn't move all that much, but every US Navy destroyer which hosts helos includes a winch-down system of some kind. Some are employed at great personal risk to the sailor who must run out under a hovering helo on a deck that's rolling over 10 deg back and forth every few seconds, hook up a cable (with a huge static shock risk), and run back out of harm's way while the cable literally pulls the helo down to the deck into the right position and holds it there. Some are lock-down systems that grab a probe sticking down from the bottom of the helo. You can see that probe and lock system here:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wWF9hDgl7E

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      --Brandon / Split Infinity Music

    2. Re:lol by Dark007 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I believe the Westland Wasp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westland_Wasp uses negative collective pitch to enable the helicopter to stick to the deck until it able to be lashed to the deck. I think the Merlin also has that feature. Very useful in heavy seas.

  9. Not a fake, but seriously overhyped by Mostly+a+lurker · · Score: 4, Informative
    Right now, the focus seems to be on the UAV market. If the technology is ever used for manned flight, this will not be for a long time. Whether the technology is truly a major advance for UAVs in constrained spaces (the current objective) we shall need to wait and see. From the company website:

    The current status of D-DALUS D-DALUS is currently in prototype stage. Over recent weeks IAT21 have conducted extensive constrained flight tests in a specially prepared laboratory near Salzburg, including the transition from vertical to forward flight, and are now ready to move to an open test range for free flight tests. In trials to date D-DALUS has met the performance criteria placed upon it and appears to be scalable, becoming more efficient and less complex as it increases in size. It will therefore be ideally suited for applications that range from maritime search and rescue, through the carriage of freight, to operating alongside and within buildings during fires or, for example, nuclear accidents.

  10. Flettner rotor, not Voith Schneider Propeller? by Richard+Kirk · · Score: 4, Insightful
    This looked like a magnus lift rotor to me. Have a search on Flettner aircraft.

    Here's a marvellous 1930's ref. from Wikipedia...

    http://books.google.com/books?id=xSgDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA26&dq=Popular+Science+1931+plane&hl=en&ei=5r8JTaa6Ismr8AaNmb2iAQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CEAQ6AEwBzgU#v=onepage&q&f=true

    So... not exactly new but probably controllable with modern computer avionics.

    1. Re:Flettner rotor, not Voith Schneider Propeller? by advocate_one · · Score: 3, Informative

      completely and utterly different principle of operation. Magnus lift is the force that occurs when an airflow is passed around a rotating cylinder whilst the cylinder is moving... this new device is a rotating array of aerofoils and relies on the angle of attack being changed as the foils move around the axis... there is no motion through the air by the entire assembly required to generate lift... merely the rotation of the blade assembly around it's axis.

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  11. Re:Video by theguyfromsaturn · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It also sounds like a fuel hog. Helicopters are fuel hogs because the rotation of the blade is necessary to provide the lift as well as the thrust. Fixed wing setups have the advantage of getting the lift for cheap. I think if it has any potential it may be at replacing rotor aircraft. Not fixed wings. I don't foresee fuel prices going down in the future.

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  12. Re:Video by jonamous++ · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I am unsure of how this design will handle an engine-out situation. A fixed-wing aircraft will have some glide ratio (9:1, 7:1, whatever) and a helicopter will autorotate. What happens with this design? It looks like it would just become a brick.

  13. Re:Ban It Immediately by jonamous++ · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There is a reason that less than 1/5 of one percent of the US population are pilots. It's not easy, it requires a lot of work, and it's very expensive (40-50 hours in a cheap cessna at $100/hr plus ~$35-45/hr for an instructor). There are even less instrument rated pilots (about 200,000 less) who are certificated to fly in poor weather/visibility. The problem isn't the "autopilotable" part (flying along a route), it's weather, navigation, landing, emergency procedures. Most people simply won't do it, it's far easier to drive a car.

  14. Re:Video by malkavian · · Score: 5, Funny

    Parachute?

  15. Re:Video by arisvega · · Score: 3, Interesting

    No, no hoax. In the water, this kind of propulsion works fine. In the air, however, the rotating speed needed to push against sufficient amounts of air to yield usable lift is insane, and so is the stress on the blades- so it is a question of fabricating it from the right material.

    I can assure you; the very instant the right material for constructing this becomes accessible, it goes to mass production.

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    The three laws of thermodynamics:(1) You can't win. (2) You can't break even. (3) You can't even quit.
  16. Re:Video by yodleboy · · Score: 3, Informative

    FYI: many planes these days from ultralights up to aircraft like the Cirrus SR22 which runs up to $500k have ballistic parachutes either standard or as an option. It's not a new concept to have a whole plane parachute and there are videos on youtube you can check out to see them working.
    There's still a lot of debate over effectiveness. There aren't that many plane crashes, and even fewer crash that have ballistic parachutes, so data is limited. Also, a large number of general aviation accidents happen at low speed and low altitude, such as take off and landing. Unfortunately, this is exactly the place where ballistic parachutes are least effective. So, the jury is still out, but I'd personally rather have the chute, rather than not have it and be in a situation where it would have helped...

  17. Re:Video by adolf · · Score: 3, Informative

    I didn't have to dig very hard -- at all -- to find this clip:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50cpPAVoxJQ

    4 Sheridan tanks airdropped by parachute from way, way more than 10 feet up.

    Not a very heavy tank by the looks of things, but still . . .