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Weird Al Says "Twitter Saved My Album"

nudnik72 writes "Weird Al's latest album, Alpocalypse, was released today, but might not have if his fans hadn't taken his cause to twitter Al says. Yankovic had a well publicized disagreement with Lady Gaga's management over his parody of her song Born This Way. Within 24 hours of his fans spreading the word on the internet, Gaga's people reversed course and approved the parody, saying the whole thing was just a mix-up. The King of Pop Parodies explains that this wasn't the first time a music label and the parodied artist didn't see eye-to-eye."

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  1. Publicity Stunt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is no such thing as bad publicity.

    1. Re:Publicity Stunt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly, see what that whole publicity stunt in the 90s did for OJ Simpson's career!

    2. Re:Publicity Stunt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're right. It's always good. BTW, you owe me $699.

      Darl McBride.

  2. The article fails to mention by DontLickJesus · · Score: 3, Informative

    A little show / podcast known as "Pop Culture Happy Hour" played a huge part in this as well.

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    1. Re:The article fails to mention by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe for you...I learned of it from Metafilter.

    2. Re:The article fails to mention by Abreu · · Score: 1

      I have no idea what you are talking about. I learned about this from Weird Al himself, via Twitter.

      I can assure you I wasn't the only guy to retweet it all day long.

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  3. Legally stream the entire album for free! by TheSpoom · · Score: 5, Informative

    Al released the entire Alpocalypse album for free legal streaming if you want to hear it before you buy. It's a great album!

    I preordered it (got the album a few days ago) and we're seeing a show in Toronto in July. Believe me, he and the band put on a hell of a performance.

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    1. Re:Legally stream the entire album for free! by TheSpoom · · Score: 3, Informative

      Also he recently released the video for Perform This Way (his Gaga parody) although fair warning, it's one of the more disturbing music videos I've seen. ;^)

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    2. Re:Legally stream the entire album for free! by Orgasmatron · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Holy crap. I'm going to have nightmares from that. Disturbing doesn't even come close.

      Still, Al is God. I hope she fire the tool that said no to Al without asking her.

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    3. Re:Legally stream the entire album for free! by mlawrence · · Score: 1

      I went to a concert around 10 years ago, when I was about 30. I was the oldest person there. :)

    4. Re:Legally stream the entire album for free! by Wandering+Voice · · Score: 1

      I saw Weird Al in I think it was '91 at the Waukesha County Fair in WI. Don't let the county fair part color your impression, it was a great show. The music was good and the on stage performance was a lot of fun.

    5. Re:Legally stream the entire album for free! by billcopc · · Score: 1

      Oh.
      My.
      Jebus.

      I fell off the damn chair laughing. Now I gotta find a ticket for that Toronto concert! EPIC!

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    6. Re:Legally stream the entire album for free! by Hatta · · Score: 1

      I loved Weird Al back in the day. But you kind of have to keep up on popular music to appreciate it. Does he still play his classic stuff? Eat it? Another one rides the bus? Amish Paradise?

      I guess it's doesnt' matter either way. He's not coming anywhere near Omaha.

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    7. Re:Legally stream the entire album for free! by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      What exactly is so disturbing about that video?

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    8. Re:Legally stream the entire album for free! by Dorkmaster+Flek · · Score: 4, Informative

      I saw him a few years ago in Toronto for the Straight Outta Lynwood tour, and he did play all his classic hits. I specifically remember Eat It and Amish Paradise both, and the encore was Albuquerque which was incredible to see performed live in its entirety. He opened the show with White & Nerdy and came out on stage riding a Segway. The show was fantastic, one of the best I've ever seen. There were costume changes between almost every song, and videos playing while they changed sets. It was a full-on multimedia show, not just a concert. If you get the chance to see him, do it. I'm seeing him again in a few weeks for the new tour. I'm really hoping he opens with the Gaga track and comes out of a chicken egg or something.

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    9. Re:Legally stream the entire album for free! by Hatta · · Score: 1

      I'd love to. Don't think there's much chance of him visiting the plains states though.

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    10. Re:Legally stream the entire album for free! by TheSpoom · · Score: 1

      Current concert setlist includes Amish Paradise, and I believe he has a medley some classic stuff which includes part of Eat It, dunno about Another One Rides The Bus. It's worth seeing, I'll tell you that much, and you don't have to worry about it being all new stuff, he knows what his fans want to hear.

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    11. Re:Legally stream the entire album for free! by sconeu · · Score: 1

      He was at the San Diego County Fair last week.

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    12. Re:Legally stream the entire album for free! by Abreu · · Score: 1

      Is there a link to that video that can be watched from outside the US?

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    13. Re:Legally stream the entire album for free! by whiteranger99x · · Score: 1

      Also he recently released the video for Perform This Way (his Gaga parody) although fair warning, it's one of the more disturbing music videos I've seen. ;^)

      Well to be fair, that just means that the video is faithful to the original source material. ;)

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    14. Re:Legally stream the entire album for free! by DurendalMac · · Score: 1

      Weird Al albums are about the only music I ever pay for. I don't care if he streams it or not. I'm happy to buy it.

    15. Re:Legally stream the entire album for free! by scifigod · · Score: 1

      Don't lose hope, he's been through the wastelands of Iowa in the past (Sioux City during the Bad Hair Day tour in mid the 90's and played the Spencer County Fair back in '02 or '03). I'm sure he'd brave it again someday.

    16. Re:Legally stream the entire album for free! by grouchomarxist · · Score: 1
    17. Re:Legally stream the entire album for free! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hip-Hip-Hooray!

    18. Re:Legally stream the entire album for free! by grouchomarxist · · Score: 1

      Sorry. I thought that was the video, not just the music. I haven't found the actual video.

    19. Re:Legally stream the entire album for free! by TheSpoom · · Score: 1

      Weird Al - Perform This Way should work since I don't think YouTube does content restriction by country. Tell me if it does though.

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    20. Re:Legally stream the entire album for free! by twidarkling · · Score: 1

      Youtube, in fact, does restrict content by country, however, your link works in Canada at least.

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    21. Re:Legally stream the entire album for free! by hitmark · · Score: 1

      The Gaga ads are enough to make me wonder what is going on. Damn creature looks like Medusa reborn...

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    22. Re:Legally stream the entire album for free! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss_BmTGv43M (compensating for TheSpoom's being an arsehole)

    23. Re:Legally stream the entire album for free! by Calydor · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, this video is not available in Germany because it may contain music for which GEMA has not granted the respective music rights.

      I really hate living in Germany.

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    24. Re:Legally stream the entire album for free! by bytta · · Score: 1

      Everything is on YouTube. First hit from "perform this way weird al" search: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss_BmTGv43M

    25. Re:Legally stream the entire album for free! by DaVince21 · · Score: 1

      He does! At least, he did when he had his first concert in the Netherlands this year. Even wore the suit for Fat.

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    26. Re:Legally stream the entire album for free! by ZaMoose · · Score: 1

      I saw him on the first leg of his US tour in Glenside, PA. He does "Perform This Way" in the peacock suit that shows up about 2/3 of the way through the video.

      He averaged a costume change every 1.5 songs or so. And yes, it was an awesome show, though I hear he won't be doing "You're Pitiful" live anymore, which is a shame.

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    27. Re:Legally stream the entire album for free! by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Worse than Spy Hard where his head explodes at the end?

    28. Re:Legally stream the entire album for free! by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1

      A little above you in Norfolk, our summer concert highlight is REO Speedwagon. Please forgive me for being unsympathetic. :-)

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    29. Re:Legally stream the entire album for free! by Hatta · · Score: 1

      REO Speedwagon, can't miss that. I mean literally, get a good scope and position and you can't miss.

      Amazing how clueless people around here can be about music. Check out the lineup at the inaugural Red Sky Festival. Journey and 311 are the big acts. They got George Clinton, and then put him on in the afternoon, WTF? There's your headliner people!

      Thank God for the Slowdown, that's all I can say.

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    30. Re:Legally stream the entire album for free! by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1

      In fairness, I'd love to see Soul Asylum. And while it may be sacrilege, I had more fun seeing 311 than George Clinton. Oh, did I mention that REO is touring with Skynyrd?

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    31. Re:Legally stream the entire album for free! by Hatta · · Score: 1

      Yeah it's not all bad. They got STS9 too, but again put them on an afternoon stage. That's not even worth it. STS9 deserves a slot after dark.

      The best show I ever saw was a Funkadelic show. They played the late night set at Schwagstock a few years ago. Man they just kept going. It was almost 5am when I finally gave up, and apparently they kept playing for a couple hours more.

      Schwagstock was held at Camp Zoe, which recently got confiscated by the Feds for being too awesome. What a sad country we live in.

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    32. Re:Legally stream the entire album for free! by TheSpoom · · Score: 1

      Cool. Sorry about that. Being from Canada, I know exactly how annoying GeoIP blocking can be.

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  4. huh? by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I can't believe a person as big of a publicity hound as Lady Gaga would every have a problem with a Weird Al parody. It means at the very least you've done a track that has hit the public consciousness and that you're famous. Plus she's been on shows like Graham Norton where you're sure to get made fun of in a good natured way.

    Probably a goon in the entourage taking upon him/herself to make a decision.

    1. Re:huh? by Seumas · · Score: 1

      She's like twelve years old, right? What the hell doe she know about "Weird Al"? I doubt she's ever even heard of him.

      Anyway, this isn't really news. This was all reported in the press weeks ago. Actually, it might have been months ago.

    2. Re:huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Probably a goon in the entourage taking upon him/herself to make a decision.

      On Reddit I think the prevailing line of thinking was that it was probably Gaga's agent who initially nixed the parody, what with agents being accustomed to protecting their client's image.

    3. Re:huh? by UnknowingFool · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The Internet rumor is that Lady Gaga herself loved the track but was not consulted. She was in the middle of a tour and her management made the decision for her.

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    4. Re:huh? by waveclaw · · Score: 1

      I can't believe a person as big of a publicity hound as Lady Gaga would every have a problem with a Weird Al parody.

      Perhaps her PR agents know about the Streisand effect and are meta-meme hacking the culture for a little publicity? Certainly wouldn't be the first time someone started a fight just to get a little bit more famous.

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    5. Re:huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i believe she's 25, same age as me - and one of the first cassettes i ever had was Alapalooza!

    6. Re:huh? by hedwards · · Score: 1

      That's my understanding, and it wouldn't be the first time that the people in charge of licensing got it wrong. I remember Coolio being somewhat pissed about Amish Paradise, but his people signed off on it. Rick James was annoyed about his guys licensing to MC Hammer until he saw the check.

      It's one of the things which happens when you allow somebody else to make decisions for you.

    7. Re:huh? by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 2

      IIRC Al shares the song writing credit on everything he does, which means they also get a nice check for doing nothing. Only someone with no sense of humor or has an inflated ego says no.

    8. Re:huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The last cassette I ever bought was Alapalooza. Now I feel old.

    9. Re:huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The most pathetic thing about Coolio being pissed about "Amish Paradise" is that "Gangsta Paradise" is just a rip off of Stevie Wonder's "Pastime Paradise" - all the music but the drum beat and all but one word of the chorus (IIRC) are identical. He was pissed about a parody of a song that he himself had basically parodied.

    10. Re:huh? by Abreu · · Score: 1

      IIRC Al shares the song writing credit on everything he does, which means they also get a nice check for doing nothing. Only someone with no sense of humor or has an inflated ego says no.

      Like Prince?

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    11. Re:huh? by supersloshy · · Score: 1

      Way more than an "internet rumor", it was confirmed by Al himself on his blog.

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    12. Re:huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup.

    13. Re:huh? by wiredlogic · · Score: 1

      Because no one would care if Weird Al just silently released a record. By making a fuss and then "capitulating" they both get positive hype that amounts to free advertising.

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    14. Re:huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes to both there, as well as total nut-job-ness.

    15. Re:huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wouldn't put it past her to say no just for the publicity, and then say yes quickly enough that she can claim a miscommunication that she was happy to resolve. Gets her name out there and gets her seen as a good person.

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  6. Thanks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Twats!

  7. I'm not a Weird Al fan but... by east+coast · · Score: 2

    Coolio's a bitch. Straight up!

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    1. Re:I'm not a Weird Al fan but... by Hatta · · Score: 1

      The funny thing is, that's how Coolio is going to be remembered. Not as one of the most popular rappers of the mid 90s, but as the guy who said no to Weird Al.

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    2. Re:I'm not a Weird Al fan but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      heh yea, one of the most popular rappers of the mid 90's, I remember buying one album and it was embarrassingly bad (which is why it was on discount), that one track on dangerous minds, and BAM he's on Nickelodeon, but only to host lame award shows

    3. Re:I'm not a Weird Al fan but... by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      Prince said no too.

  8. That's what she said by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Interesting

    No, not the joke, literally.

    LG said that her publicist had never actually sent her the song and just said no. Obviously full of himself unlike Lady GaGa, whom I admire because she is definitely doing this all from the understanding the whole thing is kind of a laugh...

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  9. Re:I don't care who you are by Skarecrow77 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    His career and new music is still just as relevant (whatever level you deem that to be) after 30 years. Not too many artists performing today can say that.

  10. Weird Al's Lady Gaga Music Video Spoof/Parody by antdude · · Score: 0, Redundant
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    1. Re:Weird Al's Lady Gaga Music Video Spoof/Parody by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here's Lady GaGa's reaction:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1PBptSDIh8

    2. Re:Weird Al's Lady Gaga Music Video Spoof/Parody by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not in my country, I don't.

  11. Gaga, if you get parodied by Weird Al ... by w0mprat · · Score: 1

    ... you've made it. Now get off my lawn!

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  12. GigaGaga by Caerdwyn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From what I have seen in interviews, etc. Lady Gaga seems to have her head screwed on straight, a lot moreso than self-obsessed legal departments and Elvis-hip-gyration-fearing for-profit TV preachers. She's messing with the social meme-scape (there, I invented a word!) and doing so with intelligence. No surprise at all that she adores Weird Al and would think that being included in a Weird Al album is a high honor for a pop singer.

    And, no surprise at all that her label's lawyer-trash didn't bother to talk to her first. From my second-hand experience with label legaloids, they hold the performers in barely-concealed contempt, the fans in fully unconcealed contempt. Dante is not my model of theological thought, but I can agree with him on one thing: Bolgia Nine must be packed with RIAA lawyers and the legal departments that try to chain down the performers.

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    1. Re:GigaGaga by Hatta · · Score: 1

      Underneath it all, she's a nice midwestern girl.

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    2. Re:GigaGaga by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Underneath it all, she's a nice midwestern girl.

      Yeah, from Brooklyn!

    3. Re:GigaGaga by maxume · · Score: 1

      Apparently she is from midwest New York City.

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    4. Re:GigaGaga by thule · · Score: 1

      I dunno, to me she seems incredibly thin skinned. I found a thoughtful essay critiquing Gaga. Check it out for a different perspective: The Case Against Lady Gaga. One of the more interesting parts of the critique is that *she* named her fans "little monsters". Odd. Another point is her subtle slam at Madonna because many people (including me) felt her new single was very similar to Madonna's "Express Yourself" in both theme and sound. She took that pretty personally. If she was true to her character I don't think she'd care what people thought.

      I look at most of her stuff and It seems to me that she isn't doing anything new. Michael Jackson created new ways to dance. Gaga's stuff just seems like a bad imitation, but that is just my impression, I don't really follow pop music. When I'm listening to music it is usually 80's alternative. :)

    5. Re:GigaGaga by argStyopa · · Score: 1

      Personally, I think it's BS - she's tossing her staff in front of the bus to take the hit for her bad judgement.

      My guess is that she was initially against it, but I will credit her for being very sensitive to the winds of public opinion, and reversed herself when she sensed the public relations disaster coming from her initial wrong decision.

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    6. Re:GigaGaga by mosb1000 · · Score: 1

      Having achieved fame, she has shed the arty, self-knowing persona of her early period and has come to embody all of the pop life’s worst attributes: egomania, pretension, and self-importance, topped off with a big, steaming pile of histrionics.

      sounds pretty thoughtful to me. . .

      You know, you don't have to like her music. But this rant, which you think is insightful, is just a bunch of whiny nonsense. There's no need to cut someone down just because she's famous, or to call her fans drones just because you don't like the music they like. Obviously they see something in it you don't see. That doesn't mean there's anything wrong with them. Different things speak to different people.

    7. Re:GigaGaga by thule · · Score: 1

      sounds pretty thoughtful to me. . .

      Keep reading.... It is pretty interesting stuff. Clearly the guy likes pop music, knows pop music history, and still likes certain aspects of Gaga. He just doesn't like the Gaga "product" and the strange lies.

    8. Re:GigaGaga by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wikipedia used tell us she is from Yonkers which is the mid west of part of New York.

  13. Too Bad the Lady Gaga Parody Video is Creepy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is, watch the darn thing. Al jumped the shark on this one. The Sloppy looking cut and paste of his face makes it really creepy. Can't even get into the parody because of it.

    1. Re:Too Bad the Lady Gaga Parody Video is Creepy. by Boronx · · Score: 1

      Weird Al's career started on the shark's downslope, he's got nothing to worry about.

  14. First album I ever bought was Weird Al. by softWare3ngineer · · Score: 1

    I cant ever listen to Lola or Girls Just Want to Have Fun with out hearing the Weird Al versions in my head.

    1. Re:First album I ever bought was Weird Al. by Dishevel · · Score: 1

      The thing is, I always like the Weird Al versions better.

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    2. Re:First album I ever bought was Weird Al. by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

      I cant ever listen to Lola or Girls Just Want to Have Fun with out hearing the Weird Al versions in my head.

      Ugh, "Girls Just Want to have Lunch" was terrible... Al just made that one 'cause his record label told him to.

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    3. Re:First album I ever bought was Weird Al. by scifigod · · Score: 2

      And I'd much rather sit through his recap of Episode 1 then to try and watch it again.

    4. Re:First album I ever bought was Weird Al. by Hamsterdan · · Score: 1

      I *love* Al's Yoda...

      "...I know Darth Vader's really got you annoyed, but remember if You kill him then you'll be unemployed..."

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  15. You don't start an email in the subject field by BarryJacobsen · · Score: 2, Informative

    so don't do it on slashdot, either.

    1. Re:You don't start an email in the subject field by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      um i do it all the time, it cuts to the point and if phrased properly puts the bulk of the subject still in the subject line without having to use it as a tidy mannerism. also this is slashdot, do as you please.

  16. Re:I don't care who you are by RazzleFrog · · Score: 2

    I've also heard that he is a Class A nice guy in real life, too. He's like a hero to nerds/geeks/accordion players everywhere.

  17. This is worse by swanzilla · · Score: 0

    This is worse

  18. Is there still a place for Al? by jfengel · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was an immense fan of "In 3D", and one of the most notable things about it is the polka versions of classics (Hey Jude, My Generation, etc.) Some of the parodies were pending classics, like Eat It, Rye or the Kaiser, and King of Suede.

    But we've run out of classics. Can you really parody Lady Gaga, herself essentially a parody of the music industry today?

    Al is a gifted musician; his grasp of style and ability to mimic it are extraordinary: Songs like Mr. Popeil and Dog Eat Dog show a tremendous grasp of what makes the B-52s and the Talking Heads distinctive. Often his original works are funnier than the parodies, especially since parody so often relies on the meat of source material. Today's source material doesn't seem to HAVE any meat.

    I looked at the video of his Lady Gaga parody. It's obviously a huge amount of work, and it's funny for that. That kind of effort is what Lady Gaga brings to the table, when the song material is forgettable.

    This is not a dig on Al; it's a dig on the music industry, which as we've often noted here is dying, and with good reason. I'm thrilled that Al is still applying his tremendous gifts. I just wish he had better stuff to work with.

    1. Re:Is there still a place for Al? by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 3, Funny

      ...especially since parody so often relies on the meat of source material.

      And no matter what you say about Lady Gaga, she had some meat for source material.

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    2. Re:Is there still a place for Al? by jfengel · · Score: 1

      I cannot BELIEVE I left that setup there without noticing it.

    3. Re:Is there still a place for Al? by smbarbour · · Score: 2

      I was an immense fan of "In 3D", and one of the most notable things about it is the polka versions of classics (Hey Jude, My Generation, etc.)

      On a tangent, now that 3D is popular in movies again, would you agree that it's time for "Nature Trail to Hell" to actually be made?

    4. Re:Is there still a place for Al? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Satan eats Cheez Whiz!

      Al is a genius.

    5. Re:Is there still a place for Al? by OS24Ever · · Score: 1

      it sure made me feel weird to be listening to his new album only to find that except for 'Perform This Way' I'd never heard the other songs he was parodying before.

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    6. Re:Is there still a place for Al? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I grew up on Weird Al so it's been that way for most of my life. The last two albums were the first ones where I had half a clue about a few of the songs. It's been interesting hearing the Weird Al versions first and then years later hearing the original. Lump was probably one of the biggest surprises.

      Yes this means I was in my 20s before I realized Weird Al covered Hey Jude.

    7. Re:Is there still a place for Al? by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

      it sure made me feel weird to be listening to his new album only to find that except for 'Perform This Way' I'd never heard the other songs he was parodying before.

      Heh, me too. Actually I don't listen to Gaga, either, so I don't know any of the originals he parodied for this album, or any of the songs from the polka medley... Well, except "Poker Face".

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    8. Re:Is there still a place for Al? by syousef · · Score: 1

      ...especially since parody so often relies on the meat of source material.

      And no matter what you say about Lady Gaga, she had some meat for source material.

      Do you mean that ridiculous outfit made of meat that she wore once?

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    9. Re:Is there still a place for Al? by TheoMurpse · · Score: 1

      Lady Gaga, herself essentially a parody of the music industry today

      Either you don't understand Lady Gaga, the music industry, or the word "parody."

      I have literally never heard anyone suggest she's a parody of the music industry today. She may be representative (I disagree on that) or something else, but a parody? Only if Madonna was a parody of 80s-00s music industry.

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  20. What do you expect? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What do you expect? Slashdot FORCES you to put something in the subject, even though most people don't even read them unless the commenter does something stupid like start their comment in the subject.

    1. Re:What do you expect? by Kalriath · · Score: 0

      When you reply, Slashdot sets the subject to "Re: ". The GGP is complaining that the GGGP consciously changed the subject to the first part of their post, despite the fact they were not forced to do so.

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    2. Re:What do you expect? by DaVince21 · · Score: 1

      It automatically fills in your subject with a Re: if it's a reply.

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  21. Love it! by spaceyhackerlady · · Score: 1

    I think Perform This Way is a hoot. The video is weird, but it is Weird Al.

    If you didn't know which was the original and which was the parody, it might be hard to tell which was which.

    ...laura, Lady Gaga fan

    1. Re:Love it! by Slashdot+Parent · · Score: 1

      Simple. Perform This Way is a parody of Born This Way, which in turn *is* Madonna's Express Yourself.

      I'm just sayin'.

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  22. Re:I don't care who you are by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 2

    What I am continually amazed by is just how large a range he and his band have. They do tons of different styles when parodying songs and do them extremely well.

    Particularly impressive are the style parodies, because they are always so dead on. They really can capture the style of a band and create a new tune that sounds just right.

    All in all not an easy thing to do, and no small part of the reason he can keep relevant. If he and his band only had one or two styles they could do, the parodies would work so well. That they can take on more or less any band's style and pull it off to near perfection is why a parody he does today can be just as funny as one he did 30 years ago.

  23. Re:I don't care who you are by denis-The-menace · · Score: 2

    Too bad his French is beyond bad.

    Peetee = ???

    Paytay = Pété
    It means "farted" in French

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  24. Satire is Free Speech by ideonexus · · Score: 2

    It could be argued that this was something of a publicity stunt. The song parody was protected free speech. Weird Al didn't have to ask Lady Gaga for permission to satirize her work. He was just being polite.

    A recent example of satirical free speech was Al Franken's book "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right" was sued for infringement of Fox New's trademark "Fair and Balanced" but the court ruled that because Franken's title was a parody of the trademark it was protected free speech.

    I love that his album got so much more exposure from the conflict, but let's not forget that parody and satire are constitutionally protected forms of speech. Lady Gaga and the Record Labels lacked a legal foot to stand on in preventing the release of this album.

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    1. Re:Satire is Free Speech by SkimTony · · Score: 5, Informative

      Legally, you are correct. However, Weird Al has always had permissions to release parodies. It's not a question of legality, it's a question of being a nice guy.

    2. Re:Satire is Free Speech by node+3 · · Score: 2

      Except Weird Al goes beyond what the law requires, and actually asks for permission.

    3. Re:Satire is Free Speech by Tetsujin · · Score: 2

      Legally, you are correct. However, Weird Al has always had permissions to release parodies. It's not a question of legality, it's a question of being a nice guy.

      Additionally (as Al pointed out in TFA) he needs to consider what kind of relationship he's creating between himself, his label, the other artist, and their label. If releasing a particular song would make an enemy of another label, his label might prefer not to release it.

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    4. Re:Satire is Free Speech by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      He also mentions that he had reservations about parodying a gay rights anthem already (which is why he's donating the proceeds to charity). That plus wanting to avoid drama might have pushed him away from doing it anyway.

      Also sounds like it was only an issue for a few hours, it may have been resolved before he came to a final decision to release it without permission.

    5. Re:Satire is Free Speech by crossmr · · Score: 1

      The song parody was protected free speech.

      This is a common misconception. While some of his songs are parody, many are not. Under US law, parody requires that it be used to comment on the original. While Weird Al sometimes comments on the original, many times he just adds funny new lyrics to the song without making any direct comment on the original song or artist. As an example, see his big hit off his last song "White & Nerdy", unless I missed it there is absolutely no commentary on the original song or the artists, so it is not actually parody. Even then, the use of the content shouldn't really exceed what is required to make the comment.
      The song "You're pitiful" was another example. There was no comment on either James Blunt or the original song made through that use.

      However, I have heard some of his songs where he does use them to comment on the original artist, or the song itself.

      You can't just take something, make it funny and claim it's a parody, the threshold is higher than that.

    6. Re:Satire is Free Speech by RoFLKOPTr · · Score: 1

      Under US law, parody requires that it be used to comment on the original.

      Under US law, "comment" does not mean "make an explicit statement" just like "freedom of speech" does not mean "freedom to speak". The fact that a song is even being parodied is a comment regarding its popularity, and most of his songs do subtly (and gently) mock the original style by doing crazy things with it. That is sufficient commentary.

    7. Re:Satire is Free Speech by crossmr · · Score: 1

      The fair use/protection claim cannot exceed what you need to make the comment. If all your comment is, is that this was a popular song, it's a very weak comment, and really doesn't justify using that song.

    8. Re:Satire is Free Speech by will_die · · Score: 1

      Ignoring that Wierd Al always gets permission, see his problems with Gangstra Paradise and Beautiful, there are limitions using items for parody.
      If you are going to use a song or other copywritted material for parody it has to be a parody against the item or owner that you are using. Franken worked because he directly commented on Foxnews, if that was not the case he would of been in trouble. See the Pretty Woman supreme court case.
      For an example of Wierd Al it would be hard to link "Eat it" as a parody on "Beat It"

    9. Re:Satire is Free Speech by dsavi · · Score: 1

      When he doesn't get permission, he generally releases it anyway, but for free. (Like "You're Pitiful")

    10. Re:Satire is Free Speech by Tomahawk · · Score: 1

      Al contacted Lady Gaga through her agents, was asked to send a copy of the song for approval (so he want ahead and produced/recorded it), and was then denied.

      He ranted about it, letting the whole Twitterverse know what happened.

      Then Lady Gaga herself saw the post, and knew nothing about the song. While Al sent the stuff to the agent, nothing was passed onto Lady Gaga herself.

      She, apparently, loved the song and gave Al her blessing.

      Feckin' agents.

      Yeah, he could have released it anyway, but he has never released a parody song without the consent of the original artist. He feels that it's only right to get their consent. Nothing legal about it - it's just his way. As some else posted, he's just a nice guy!

    11. Re:Satire is Free Speech by Golddess · · Score: 1

      While in a way you are right, that is an incorrect example. James Blunt gave Weird Al permission, but James Blunt's label said "no", so Al's label pulled it. And because it was the label and not the artist who said "no", Weird Al had no problem releasing it anyway.

      As for why you are right, Michael Jackson requested that Weird Al not parody "Black or White", and while it's never found its way to a CD or otherwise officially released, Weird Al has performed "Snack All Night" live at concerts.

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    12. Re:Satire is Free Speech by mark_elf · · Score: 1
      On the other hand, doesn't mocking something qualify as commenting on it? It seems reasonable. He's voicing a kind of scorn for the original work.

      Is "like a surgeon" any kind of rational commentary on "like a virgin"? But would anybody claim it's not parody?

      Anyway I don't blame him for asking first. He's covering his ass.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parody/

      The Supreme Court of the United States stated that parody "is the use of some elements of a prior author's composition to create a new one that, at least in part, comments on that author's works."

  25. Al is just a really cool guy by KiltedKnight · · Score: 1

    I've had the opportunity to meet him at a concert when I was one of his extras. He is a good man and has a wonderful family. He treats people with respect it's difficult to not give it back to him... especially when he requests permission to do all of the spoofs even though he doesn't legally need to do so.

    And I can't listen to several songs without the Weird Al spoof popping into my head either.

    Best wishes to you, Weird Al!

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    1. Re:Al is just a really cool guy by muindaur · · Score: 1

      YODA!

      Y O D A YODA!

    2. Re:Al is just a really cool guy by SleazyRidr · · Score: 1

      I remember a while ago I was hanging out with a couple of mates listening to some music. American Pie came up and we all sang The Saga Begins to the tune, so then we played The Saga Begins and sang American Pie to it...

  26. bad fonts by callmebill · · Score: 0

    I hate Arial or whatever this font is, because everything about "Al is great" translates to "Artificial Intelligence is great" by my brain's first filter. It's almost as bad as 1 vs. l in Courier.

  27. The official story from Al's Blog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Summary isn't quite right. Gaga herself approved it. Here's the official story:

    Part 1: http://alyankovic.wordpress.com/the-gaga-saga/
    Part 2: http://alyankovic.wordpress.com/2011/04/20/gaga-update/

  28. The official story from Al's Blog by Leif_Bloomquist · · Score: 0

    Summary isn't quite right. Gaga herself approved it. Here's the official story:

    Part 1: http://alyankovic.wordpress.com/the-gaga-saga/
    Part 2: http://alyankovic.wordpress.com/2011/04/20/gaga-update/

  29. Old(er) guy likes old(er) music, film at 11. by pathological+liar · · Score: 1, Insightful

    If you don't like Lady Gaga (and neither do I) just say it and move on. You don't need to justify it, if it doesn't float your boat, it doesn't float your boat.

    The music industry is dying, but that has nothing to do with what it puts out. Slashdot was wrong then, and it's still wrong now.

    We haven't run out of classic music, we're making new classic music all the time. "Classic" is about attachments or memories you form with music, and often during formative years. Did you happen to listen to the B-52s or the Talking Heads growing up? It's also about taste, for example I find most stuff that gets labelled "Classic Rock" relentlessly boring. Merzbow has fans. Noise rock has fans. It's rarely about objective quality, and even if it were, who decides what's quality?

    You may not like or feel any attachment to modern music, but let's not pretend nobody does.

    1. Re:Old(er) guy likes old(er) music, film at 11. by jfengel · · Score: 1

      I didn't intend to pretend that nobody likes modern music, but there is less of an attachment to it. Music has always been ephemeral, but when the RIAA controlled the means of distribution, they were able to attract a lot of people to a small number of artists. That made excellent material for parody: everybody knew the same songs.

      I didn't mean to say that the classic rock was inherently "better" than modern music; that's a subjective judgment that I wouldn't presume to make. But the RIAA has had increasingly to appeal to lowest-common-denominator stuff to get the broadest audience, while more and more niche groups are peeling off into stuff that appeals to them. That lowest-common-denominator stuff doesn't attract much personal devotion.

      Right now, the biggest thing the RIAA has is re-hashing their old favorite in the form of Glee, which is selling like crazy, and somebody like Lady Gaga, who puts on a hell of a spectacle but leaves the fans less attached to the music itself.

  30. Re:I don't care who you are by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

    What I am continually amazed by is just how large a range he and his band have. They do tons of different styles when parodying songs and do them extremely well.

    Particularly impressive are the style parodies, because they are always so dead on. They really can capture the style of a band and create a new tune that sounds just right.

    Actually I think Weird Al is in kind of a unique and special place as a musician. Apart from the matter of being technically able to perform different styles, his niche in the musical world gives him the fairly unique opportunity to try different styles freely. Other musicians, once they're popular, may get boxed in by their past hits - fans will expect them to do similar work in the future. Al can do just about anything (at least within the realm of "popular music"). The fact that "Smells Like Nirvana" was a big hit for him doesn't mean he's forever a grunge artist.

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  31. Saved? by lyinhart · · Score: 1

    I hardly think his album would have been in trouble had that single song not made the cut. As worst, they would have had to remove the track from the album. He went through a similar situation with James Blunt's "You're Beautiful." In the end, the song ("You're Pitiful") didn't make the album but Weird Al released it for free download on his website.

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    1. Re:Saved? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As worst, they would have had to remove the track from the album.

      I doubt that. Although Wierd Al likes to get permission for parodies, parodies are Fair Use. So long as he paid the compulsory royalty for covering the melody, I believe he'd be in the clear, whether the mechanical copyright holder, the recording copyright holder, and those involved with the original work liked it, or not.

    2. Re:Saved? by ZJ+AJ · · Score: 1

      He could still get taken to court and have to fend off a lawsuit. He'd have to prove that it was a parody (taking the tune of a song and putting different words on it, by itself, does NOT make something a parody, although "Perform This Way" would almost certainly qualify as one), and there would be hurt feelings all the way around. I believe the compulsory royalty thing only comes into play when you simply cover a song, but putting in different words means it's not a cover.

      Getting permission from the artist whose song is being used is the "right thing to do," and Al does things the right way. Cool cat.

  32. Another reason... by Roachie · · Score: 1

    ... to hate Twitter.

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  33. It's the trolololo guy by Sparx139 · · Score: 2

    Now I'm going to have nightmares about that guys face

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    1. Re:It's the trolololo guy by antdude · · Score: 1

      At least it wasn't a rick roll. :)

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  34. Re:I don't care who you are by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

    What I am continually amazed by is just how large a range he and his band have. They do tons of different styles when parodying songs and do them extremely well.

    I have lost count of the times I've been listening to a radio station and heard what I thought was a Weird Al song playing, then thinking "those aren't the right words", only to realize I was hearing the original artist doing their less-than-impressive original version.

    And hearing an original song and thinking "that sounds so much better when sung to a polka beat..." "Black hole sun ...", for example.

  35. Re:I don't care who you are by zippthorne · · Score: 1

    I think you'll find that he does, in fact, have a style that he weaves into every song he plays. Weird Al is, first and foremost, a polka artist.

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  36. Couldn't buy legally, warez3d it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sadly, went to buy the MP3s online and they won't let me give them money for them because I live in NZ. Second stop was the TPB, where it was easy as to get.

  37. The song is "Phony Calls" by tepples · · Score: 1
    The very first line of "Perform This Way" recalls another Weird Al parody. Sing all four of these lines with the same melody:
    • But all the praying just ain't helping at all 'cause he can't seem to keep himself out of trouble.
      -- TLC, "Waterfalls"
    • You ask if their refrigerator is running, then you tell 'em they should go out and catch it.
      -- "Weird Al" Yankovic, "Phony Calls"
    • My mama told me when I was young, "We are all born superstars."
      -- Lady Gaga, "Born This Way"
    • My mama told me when I was hatched, "Act like a superstar."
      -- "Weird Al" Yankovic, "Perform This Way"
  38. Copy part of the comment to the subject line by tepples · · Score: 2

    What I typically do is write a comment, and then copy part of the comment to the subject line. This works for both tweet length comments and multi-paragraph point-by-point rebuttals.

  39. Distinct subjects help with replies by tepples · · Score: 1

    Having a distinct subject for each of your comments helps when you go back and check your Slashdot messages for replies. If you reply to two comments that have the same subject, and you just leave the "Re:" in place, you won't be able to immediately tell the difference between replies to one comment and replies to another comment. But if all your comments have a distinct subject, and you've already looked at replies to one comment, you can delete other Slashdot messages about the same subject because you know they're about replies to the same comment.

    1. Re:Distinct subjects help with replies by twidarkling · · Score: 1

      Or you could do what I do, and just delete all the messages about replies any way, because you can just click on your replies from your homepage, and be taken to the full thread. Or just ignore them. Depends on the topic, I suppose.

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  40. People said that about Michael Jackson by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Eat it? You mean beat it? Recall that song being slammed by oldies. Old people never like new music.

    There are two kinds of people, those who let their musical taste be determined by peer pressure and those who don't. Those who let peer pressure decide their taste always complain that other music sucks because they might have to go against group think otherwise. You loved the music of your youth because that is what people told you to like. You now hate the music of todays youth because that is what your peers are telling you to do.

    Circle of life.

    The other kind? Well, that would be my kind. We like our own music, never play anything else and eat the raw liver of anyone trying to expose us to anything new or different.

  41. He should have just ditched the track. by dohzer · · Score: 1

    Perform This Way is one of the more boring tracks off the album anyway. Sure, it probably has the most mainstream attraction, but who cares?!

  42. Record Label Owned By Sony by Appolonius+of+Perge · · Score: 3, Informative
    For what it's worth, the record label that published this, http://www.jiverecords.com/ is, according to Wikipedia, owned by Sony: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jive_records.

    This may or may not affect your purchasing decision.

  43. Re:I don't care who you are by vaporland · · Score: 1

    His career and new music is still just as relevant (whatever level you deem that to be) after 30 years. Not too many artists performing today can say that.

    This. I'd add DEVO to that category, and Al's paid tribute to them too, back in the 80's: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMhwddNQSWQ

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  44. my emails in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the SMTP headers.

  45. I see by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

    what you did there.

    Honestly I don't like it either, but for this particular use it fit just right. Allow some artistic license please. It is the exception that proves the rule.

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  46. Disappointed by Orphaze · · Score: 1

    Was anyone else let down by Al's new album?

    It's good, but 5 previously released tracks that I already own? C'mon!

  47. Re:I don't care who you are by squizzar · · Score: 1

    Apparently for Beverley Hillbillies (Money for Nothing) Mark Knopfler insisted on playing guitar for the album version. Since Knopfler had been playing the song for so long he was much more relaxed with it and Weird Al's Guitarist Jim West could play it more like the original version...

  48. Wait, "her" song? by Rogerborg · · Score: 1

    "Her" is a meat puppet. Actors don't sue when someone rips of "their" film, do they?

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    1. Re:Wait, "her" song? by ZJ+AJ · · Score: 1

      She was one of its four songwriters, so yes, it's "her" song.

  49. Re:I don't care who you are by DaVince21 · · Score: 1

    Yeah, well, he's still a genius in France.

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  50. Re:I don't care who you are by ZaMoose · · Score: 1

    My parents had a strict No Popular Radio rule when I was a young lad yet, for some reason, had a "Weird Al" Escape Clause -- I could listen to all the "Weird Al" I wanted, but never the source material.

    To this day, I can't hear "Lola", "Hey Ricky", "I Love Rock And Roll", "Ride The Pony" and countless other songs that "debuted" in Yankovic form in my life without singing the "Weird Al" version.

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  51. Re:I don't care who you are by ZaMoose · · Score: 1

    They did "Beverley Hillbillies" at the show I attended last month. Jim West is a good guitarist, but it's easy to see why Knopfler wanted to play the riff -- it just doesn't sound right with anyone else picking away at it.

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  52. Good Luck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    changing that mentality.... It's like pissing into the ocean to change the tide.

  53. Satire is Free Speech, but The Beer Ain't Free by KYPackrat · · Score: 1

    The song parody was protected free speech. Weird Al didn't have to ask Lady Gaga for permission to satirize her work. He was just being polite.

    Under copyright laws, it's true that she (probably) can't win a lawsuit. However, if he asks permission, he can be listed as writer or as co-writer (I forget which) of the parody song lyrics, and therefore get his share of the lyrics profits from the album and royalties from airplay, in addition to his "singer" royalties. Without permission, he cannot get any songwriter money, and has to live on just the "singer" share. The singer share isn't enough to live on (and Al has said so before in documentaries ), so that written permission is financially essential (beyond any moral issues).

    Consider the old joke of the drummer in the back of the plane, while the lead singer (and main songwriter) flies with two seats in first class (one for the guitar). This is why bands like Genesis are so fastidious about keeping all songwriting "in house": the temptation for your people to want more than your 1/x of the pie is too tempting.

  54. Last song on the album: New internet anthem? by ZJ+AJ · · Score: 1

    I think everyone here has wanted to say this to at least a few people in their lives. It's a great rip on a Jim Steinman/Meatloaf-style track, and an important message the whole world needs to hear:

    Stop Forwarding That Crap To Me

  55. Except that by Vegeta99 · · Score: 1

    it's been a common occurrence on /. since I've been around here, starting in 1998.

  56. Re:I don't care who you are by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Too bad his French is beyond bad.

    Peetee = ???

    Paytay = Pété
    It means "farted" in French

    I'd like to know the truth of it. I'd guess it was intentional. No one seems to hate a bad accent/pronunciation as much as the french.