LulzSec Posts First Secret Document Dump

Dangerous_Minds writes "LulzSec has been vowing to expose government secrets for the last few days. Now they have delivered. According to ZeroPaid, LulzSec has posted secret documents about Arizona Law Enforcement. The release has been posted to file-sharing website ThePirateBay. LulzSec says the release is because they are 'against SB1070 and the racial profiling anti-immigrant police state that is Arizona.'"

Comments

Re:AZ isn't anti-immigrant

[Jeremy Erwin]

Yes

Re:AZ isn't anti-immigrant

[cavreader]

Read the damn law. They can not be stopped randomly and checked for immigration status. Only after they are detained for some other reason can they ask for immigration status. And yes this could be circumvented by individual police officers but that is true for a whole list of different types of charges. The people complaining about his law are automatically assuming the entire police force are racists and will ignore the law which is a rather insulting and unsupported accusation. Anyway how is this any different than anyone else getting stopped by the police and being asked for identification such as a drivers license?

Re:AZ isn't anti-immigrant

[aardvarkjoe]

No, it's not. It claims to be anti-illegal-immigrant, but it's really just white supremacy. Even native-born citizens have been picked up and imprisoned for months because somebody suspected they were illegal. No proof required. There was a case where a guy was imprisoned in...either Arizona or New Mexico. For months. He was forced to work for $1/day to earn the money to purchase a copy of his birth certificate from the federal government to prove he was a legal citizen. (So much for "Innocent until proven guilty") Another case up here in Pennsylvania, a man (again, a legal citizen, not sure if he was native-born) was arrested and held by ICE for 3 days despite having his valid driver's license and social security card in his wallet at the time of his arrest...strictly because of his last name. It sounded like he might be foreign, so ICE ordered he be detained.

I keep up with this stuff pretty closely, and never heard either one of these. Can't find anything that sounds even remotely similar on google. I suspect you're making things up.

SB1070 still effectively legalizes police harassment of anybody who's skin is darker than a certain shade of brown.

It doesn't do anything of the sort, of course.

And they require that you carry identification with you. This is not a legal requirement anywhere else in America.

The requirements for carrying identification/immigration paperwork are exactly the same as the federal laws.

Re:AZ isn't anti-immigrant

[Urza9814]

The first one is from a published report, ("Jailed Without Justice", published by Amnesty International, page 20, very easy to find if you google it) which lists the original source as: "Testimony of Kara Hartzler, Florence Immigrant and Refugee Rights Project, before the House of Representatives Subcommittee on Immigrantion, Citizenship, Refugees, Border Security, and International Law Hearing on Problems with ICE Interrogation, Detention and Removal Procedures, Second Session of the 110th Congress, 13 February 2008, serial Number 110-80, available at: http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/printers/110th/40742.PDF"

He worked at $1/day, a birth certificate costs $30, so that's at least a month assuming he was working full time every day. Not sure if he would have, I'm not all that familiar with the prison system. Also doesn't count time spent being transferred and such (which ICE does very frequently and without notice). I suppose I did make a slight mistake though in the time, as the original does only say "over a month". And yes, I suppose it would be state, not federal government that he purchased it from, the original doesn't specify.

The second case is from the Summer 2011 issue of "Free For All" published by the American Civil Liberties Union of Pennsylvania. Article was "Pennsylvania's Secret Prisoners". Unfortunately, I'm not finding it available online anywhere, and the name in the article was changed.

Re:AZ isn't anti-immigrant

[_KiTA_]

Read the damn law. They can not be stopped randomly and checked for immigration status. Only after they are detained for some other reason can they ask for immigration status.

(snip)

Anyway how is this any different than anyone else getting stopped by the police and being asked for identification such as a drivers license?

Except that Sheriff Bubba-Joe has a history of having his officers stop every brown person they see, under the troll logic that "Non-Whites commit more crimes." Usually under the guise of wanting to see their drivers licence. And then, with this new law, they have to PROVE that they're not illegals, or the cop can arrest them on the spot for the crime of "possibly being illegal."

Re:illegal immigration = modern slavery

[_KiTA_]

Where i live, both are. If you get caught employing illegals, you get fined and the illegals are sent back home.

I used to work in Apple Warehouses in Yakima Washington.

One day I noticed a few trucks from the warehouse down the road filled to the brim with Latino workers. They were driving out towards the orchards, away from the other warehouse, which looked absolutely deserted.

I asked my father, who still works as a forklift foreman at the warehouse, what that was about.

"Oh, Evans is getting a surprise inpsection, so they're moving all the illegals out to the field for the rest of the week. They'll have the legals work at the warehouse until the inspectors leave."

"Wait, but isn't it a surprise inspection?"

"Yeah, but they warn them a day or two ahead of time so they don't get caught."

Re:You are incredibly naive

[Discopete]

In AZ if you get caught knowingly hiring illegals and you lose your license to do business in the state. Many employers are not willing to take that chance.