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7 Hackers Who Got Legit Jobs From Their Misdeeds

adeelarshad82 writes "Just like in Stephen Glass' fabricated feature where a lonely teenage hacker gets hired by a major software company, the 21 year old PlayStation 3 hacker, George "Geohot" Hotz, was offered a job at Facebook. Ironically Hotz wasn't the first school-aged hacker to be rewarded for his cyber-crime rather than a prison sentence. Turns out there are others who have managed (with one exception) to avoid jail time, and instead found themselves gainfully employed by some of Silicon Valley's most exclusive circles."

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  1. Meh by dexomn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    GeoHot != Criminal

    1. Re:Meh by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Neither are most of the others in the slide show. The one guy who actually did to jail time actually did something quite illegal. Figuring out how to pair your Wii mote via bluetooth, not so much.

      Peter Hajas is the creator of uber-popular iOS jailbreak app MobileNotifier, a notification system that resembles Google Android’s in that it seamlessly layers and stacks your mobile notifications on top of running apps

      Johnny Chung Lee is more of a modder than a hacker (which some would argue is just a matter of shades of grey). Lee is a computer scientist who famously hacked a Nintendo Wiimote in 2008 using a few ballpoint pens and infrared lights. He was then hired by Microsoft to develop the Kinect.

      Jeff Moss is the founder of the Black Hat and DEF CON computer hacker conferences, but back in the pre-bubble 1980s he ran underground bulletin board systems for hackers.

      During his early college years at Georgia Southern University, Chris Putnam and his friends created an XSS-based worm on Facebook and modified infected pages to look just like MySpace profiles.

      In 2009, a then 21-year-old Australian named Ashley Towns stayed up late one night downloading iOS app development programs, and unwittingly created the first known iPhone worm. The virus automatically set a photo of singer Rick Astley’s face as your mobile wallpaper, possibly the ultimate "Rickroll."

      Also in 2009, a 17-year-old high school student from Brooklyn named Michael “Mikeyy" Mooney coded a Twitter worm that sent tweets from hundreds of accounts, mostly with links to a spam website or Mooney’s phone number. Twitter co-founder Biz Stone likened Mooney’s worm to the Samy worm that hit MySpace in 2005 and vowed to press charges.

      Kevin Poulsen hacked into L.A.’s KIIS-FM radio station to rig a competition that eventually scored him a Porsche. He followed up with breaches into FBI computers. Naturally this put the federal agency in hot pursuit of the black hat hacker. He was arrested in 1991 and served five years in prison in addition to paying a $56,000 fine for charges of mail, wire, and computer fraud. Upon serving his sentence, Poulsen became a journalist, and is now a senior editor at Wired magazine. One of his most notable achievements was creating a program that identified hundreds of sex offenders on MySpace.

    2. Re:Meh by drolli · · Score: 2

      Yes. He and Sony *settled*. That means that sony found it better for their image to put this ad acta, and saw no big change of winning. Otherwise they would have sued him to the end. Agreeing to a settlement does not make you criminal. Agreeing to a settlement does not even mean that you broke a contract.

      Agreeing to a settlement just means that you and the other side agree that there has been a different in the interpretation of a contract, but that its of for both sides not to insist in the original interpretation any further under specific circumstances.

    3. Re:Meh by Moryath · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If we had competent courts rather than a mockery of a court system run by corrupt "lawyers" and bribed/senile judges, those provisions would long ago have been declared unconscionable and therefore unenforceable anyways, much like "non-compete clauses" have routinely been found unconscionable.

    4. Re:Meh by marcansoft · · Score: 2

      Figuring out how to pair your Wii mote via bluetooth, not so much.

      Johnny Lee didn't actually hack the Wiimote; what he did was pull off a very cool hack using the Wiimote. The original reverse engineering was done by other people, myself included. He is indeed more of a modder (though he very much deserves the praise - anyone can play around with devices, but it takes someone special to envision and develop the applications that he did).

      The article is pretty silly though. Big corporations hire all the time, and most of the people they hire you've never heard of. Why is it news that they also happen to hire hackers? I know plenty of hackers with day jobs at big companies; it's not exactly unheard of or weird. Newsflash: most hackers are good developers and companies like hiring good developers.

      The bigger question is whether the hackers want to be employed by big companies. Some do, some don't.

    5. Re:Meh by luis_a_espinal · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If we had competent courts rather than a mockery of a court system run by corrupt "lawyers" and bribed/senile judges, those provisions would long ago have been declared unconscionable and therefore unenforceable anyways, much like "non-compete clauses" have routinely been found unconscionable.

      Emotional-driven generalization != truth.

    6. Re:Meh by geoskd · · Score: 2

      Emotional-driven generalization != truth.

      Our legal system is directly influenced by the politics of our day, and as anyone in politics will tell you, perception is reality. The image our courts have of not being able to provide an unbiased decision, is a direct result of and reflection of the failings of our legal system. Judges have routinely failed to recuse themselves when they should on the grounds that they do not understand the underlying principles, nor the ramifications of their decisions. A judge taking the time to learn about the things they are being asked to decide is far less common than the alternative.

      Our legal system needs an overhaul badly, and all parts of the intellectual property laws need to be removed, and subsequently / expressly forbidden by amendment to the constitution. Nothing less than that will restore the faith of the citizens that the government works for them, not for big business.

      -=Geoskd

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    7. Re:Meh by sarysa · · Score: 2

      And that's assuming he actually agreed to and was abound by them in the first place.

      Exactly. His incident was the inspiration for my signature.
      One day someone will have the will to go through years of legal battles necessary to take down abusive EULAs...is what I was going to end this post with, but then I realized that iPhone jailbreakers already won their battle and nothing changed. Sigh...

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  2. Not irony by Gorath99 · · Score: 2

    Ironically Hotz wasn't the first school-aged hacker to be rewarded for his cyber-crime rather than a prison sentence.

    Fail.

  3. KEVIN MITNICK! by hashish16 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Come most you should remember the "Free Kevin Mitnick" campaign. He is the original hacker/cracker turned "consultant".

    1. Re:KEVIN MITNICK! by shadowfaxcrx · · Score: 2

      Came here to say this. How these dopes could list all those minor guys and skip Mitnick is beyond me.

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  4. Meh by Anrego · · Score: 2

    Ironically Hotz wasn't the first school-aged hacker to be rewarded for his cyber-crime rather than a prison sentence.

    Wouldn't call this irony. The whole ex-hacker/burgler/forger/etc turned ultra-well paid employee working for the "good guys"[tm] is an old cliche.

    Hell, in some lines of work, doing a little jail time (or at least almost doing some) to earn some rep might just be part of the plan.

  5. What crime? What misdeeds? by jjo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Geohot didn't do anything illegal, so why is he a 'criminal'? How is restoring the Linux functionality that Sony originally sold, and then disabled though updates, a 'misdeed'?

  6. Hotz isn't just some script kiddie by elrous0 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This wasn't the case of some phone-phreaker or wardriver getting hired. Hotz was an actual skilled hacker, with some pretty serious reverse-engineering and programming abilities. He wasn't just some asshole who figured out a password or slightly modified some virus code.

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    1. Re:Hotz isn't just some script kiddie by Anrego · · Score: 2

      As much of an ass that I think geohot is.. I have to agree. Man has some serious talent.

      Really makes me wonder what the hell he'll be doing at facebook. Surely he could be doing something more interesting then cranking out IOS apps.

  7. Better than incarcerating the youth by zig43 · · Score: 2

    Seriously, many of us have done stupid things when we were younger. In todays incarceration culture many kids are going to prison to hang out with violent criminals for pulling the same stunts. We as a society need to more carefully consider the reasons for which we take away someone's freedoms.

    1. Re:Better than incarcerating the youth by vlm · · Score: 2

      We as a society need to more carefully consider the reasons for which we take away someone's freedoms.

      In an economy with over 25% un- or under- employment, any reason to "thin the herd" seems acceptable by the (rapidly shrinking) majority that still have jobs... That's what gives this story a twist, rather than being thinned from the herd, they actually got jobs.

      If we don't "thin the herd" using the questionable justice system, we'll either have to admit the situation is worse than it appears, which certainly isn't going to happen, or find another way to thin the herd, perhaps stealth ageism by grade inflation filtration? Is there a way to thin the herd that is more ethical or less unethical than the justice system? Maybe, but right now it sounds like the old one liner about democracy, its a terrible system but all the others are even worse...

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    2. Re:Better than incarcerating the youth by luis_a_espinal · · Score: 2

      Perhaps we wouldn't have so many economic troubles if we questioned our leaders more often...

      And perhaps we wouldn't have so many economic problems if instead of always blaming "the man", we took responsibility for not being a savings culture, living always on credit and always ready to jump into the next speculative thing (the dot-com, trading, real-state, blah blah) and never caring for our own education and manufacturing capabilities because rar rar we are USA we rock, them Chinamen and dot-injuns are too neolithic to take mah jawb.

      Stop putting all the blame on leaders. Yes, they have a responsibility for this mess, but so do we, common folk, Our work and education ethos is a f* up one, and we are not innocent bystanders in this crapfest.

    3. Re:Better than incarcerating the youth by Dainsanefh · · Score: 2

      Exactly. Respecting diversity and different race/culture is a good start. Racism does not come from the leaders, it comes from the common folk.

      Just look at what happened last weekend in Rose Bowl for the final of Copa Oro. People threw racial slurs to mexican fans after USA lost in a spectacular fashion.

      In order to clamp down racism, banning religion is the key. Religious text provides racial superiority over others (Talmud for the Jews are the best example). With religion such as Islam, Judaism and Christianity, racism will continue to exist.

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  8. Re:What idiots by bsDaemon · · Score: 2

    Yes, my first thought was "most of these people are hackers in the old sense of the word," but when being cleaver, inventive and creative is lumped in with "and, oh yeah, a guy who committed wire fraud to steal a car", then it just makes everybody who uses a computer for more than word processing seem like a potential threat to national security. Computers are the chemistry sets of the 21st century, I suppose.

  9. George Hotz and misdeed in the same paragraph? by rgviza · · Score: 2

    The only issue with George Hotz being in this list is he's never committed a misdeed. He's removed limitations on hardware he owns, placed by the manufacturer and shown others how to do the same. He hasn't broken the DMCA. He is a hacker in the truest sense of the word. He's never been caught doing anything illegal, most likely because he hasn't done anything illegal.  He'd be in jail for breaking the DMCA.

    How can what he's done be a misdeed? He was placed under an injunction to not show anyone else how to do what he's done, essentially a gag order. The only reason he agreed to this is he didn't have the money to fight sony in court. Sony is the one guilty of misdeeds in this case.

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  10. Re:What crime? What misdeeds? by bberens · · Score: 2

    He arguably violated the DMCA. Breaking unjust laws does not stop you from being called a criminal. Not having ever been convicted also does not make you any less of a criminal.

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  11. Only 2 or 3 are actually black hats by GameboyRMH · · Score: 4, Informative

    George Hotz - Benevolent tinkerer
    Peter Hajas - Benevolent tinkerer
    Johnny Chung Lee - Benevolent tinkerer
    Jeff Moss - Benevolent
    Jeff Putnam - Created destructive Facebook virus - Black hat
    Ashley Towns - Created harmless prank virus - Benevolent
    Michael Mooney - Created spamming twitter worm - Black hat
    Kevin Poulsen - Rigged a competition to give himself a car - Could be considered a black hat

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  12. These people in the TFA by Dainsanefh · · Score: 2

    Have not taken any profit except the last one. That is why they are gone scott-free.

    That is why you won't find a single credit card / bank hacker in the TFA. The law regarding cybercrime are much different in 3rd world countries, as those people are bringing in much $ for the economy, similar to how 419 plans works for the economy of Nigeria.

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  13. Re:What crime? What misdeeds? by metacell · · Score: 2

    It's higly doubtful he broke any of the criminal provisions of the DMCA. Sony only sued him; they didn't file any criminal charges.

  14. Re:Doesn't take much by metacell · · Score: 2

    I work at a Danish multi-national corporation. It has English as its official language, but most of the top-level bosses are Danes. I've noticed that people here are using some peculiar English phrases, and I'm guessing they're based on grammatical misconceptions from one of the bosses which have then spread throughout the organisation. For example, at our company, we don't "reply" to e-mails; we "revert" to them. I haven't seen this particular error anywhere else.

    According to a high school teacher of mine, odd dialects among the upper class, like speaking with a lisp or through your nose, were historically often the result of a speech impediment with one of the royals, which was copied by those below him.

    It also reminds me of the American president who made people pronounce "nuclear" "nukular".

    Here's a hint on how to use it: the dropping of "to be" only applies to the specific verb "need".

    It's probably a mix of "It needs to be changed" and "It needs a change".