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Silver Pen Allows For Hand-Written Circuits

Zothecula writes "People have been using pens to jot down their thoughts for thousands of years but now engineers at the University of Illinois have developed a silver-inked rollerball pen that allows users to jot down electrical circuits and interconnects on paper, wood and other surfaces. Looking just like a regular ballpoint pen, the pen's ink consists of a solution of real silver that dries to leave electrically conductive silver pathways. These pathways maintain their conductivity through multiple bends and folds of the paper, enabling users to personally fabricate low-cost, flexible and disposable electronic devices."

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  1. Not slashdot too! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    These things have been around for decades, fuck knows why this is suddenly news.

    1. Re:Not slashdot too! by Anon-Admin · · Score: 3, Insightful

      No kidding! Heck, 25 years ago My self and a friend used a felt tip one to draw a set of lines on a wooden fence. A set of nails and alligator clip wires and a little hacker engineering and we had the neighbors phone line on the window sill. Worked ok for about 2 weeks, provided it was not raining. Then it broke down enough that it did not work.

    2. Re:Not slashdot too! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      Indeed, if you look at many old (1980) PCBs you can see how they were designed by hand. They would prototype with a pen and then use that as a template to make masks for etching. There is something quite beautiful about those hand drawn layouts, devoid of straight lines and equal spacing everywhere.

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    3. Re:Not slashdot too! by Kagetsuki · · Score: 2

      I've been using them for almost my entire EE career. I have a small can of conductive paint as well. You can buy conductive fabric and thread too.

    4. Re:Not slashdot too! by Tx · · Score: 5, Informative

      The article fails to explain what's new here, a major failing since most every slashdotter will have heard of circuit repair pens. These guys apparently used silver nano-particles and hydroxyethyl cellulose to create a flexible conductor, presumably much more so than the circuit repair pens that have been around forever. I must admit I've never tried using a repair pen on something flexible, but I'm guessing it dries pretty rigid.

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    5. Re:Not slashdot too! by Linker3000 · · Score: 2

      Nope, as I pointed out on El Reg - pretty flexible:

      http://www.evilmadscientist.com/article.php/mobiuscircuit

      From 2009

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    6. Re:Not slashdot too! by SomePgmr · · Score: 2
    7. Re:Not slashdot too! by xded · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Original article here (sorry, no free version available). I find ridiculous that they provide (mostly self) references to existing art, but they fail to mention commercial felt-tip silver pens.

      By a quick look at the paper, their ink has a resistivity of 2*10^(-4) Ohm*cm (25 C print temperature) which is not so lower than the 5*10^(-4) Ohm*cm commercially available ink. They do reach lower resistivity, but with high temperature annealing, so it cannot be compared directly (and they fail to).

      Maybe their ink is more flexible, but again they fail to provide comparison with existing ink.

      Their ink has probably lower viscosity due to the use of nanoparticles (they are working between 1 and 10 Pa*s) and this probably allows for the use of rollerball pens, but if felt-tip pens are working fine with a most likely cheaper ink, why should I care?

      However they do manage to master the acronyms creation art, providing the catchy PoP shorthening for their groundbreaking pen-on-paper circuit drawing approach...

  2. Life immiates art once again. by chinton · · Score: 4, Informative

    It comes in handy when your man-animal may be spying to steal your teleportation secrets...

  3. Amazing!!!! by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Informative

    They invented a product that has been available for over 20 years....

    http://www.mgchemicals.com/products/pens.html

    What's next from these ingenious companies?

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    1. Re:Amazing!!!! by chinton · · Score: 5, Funny

      Next week, graphite in a wooden cylinder that can make marks on pressed and dried wood pulp.

    2. Re:Amazing!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      And it gets better - graphite is an electrical conductor! Now we've gone full circle.

    3. Re:Amazing!!!! by Animats · · Score: 2

      Mod parent up.

      A conductive ink pen and a trace-cutter used to be standard equipment when debugging new PC boards. Today, you usually get it right the first time using CAD tools. Today's pin spacing is too close for hand drawing.

  4. Re:The Russians use a pencil by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 2

    Doesn't graphite do the same thing, more or less?

    For geeks with AMD CPUs and old ATI graphics cards, a sharp pencil was almost mandatory.

    Silver pens were permanent. If you fried your chip with the "pencil lead" mod, all you needed to do was grab your eraser and RMA!

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  5. What's next? I'll tell you what's next... by h1q · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What's next from these ingenious companies?

    A patent of course.

  6. I am surprised by Osgeld · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They didn't claim to invent the fucking paper too

    as others have pointed out this has been around for decades, and you can make your own ghetto version using copper radiator repair solution

  7. Re:The Russians use a pencil by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

    With a tendency toward "less". Graphite is pretty conductive, fairly cheap, and has some useful mechanical properties(albeit often when mixed with other materials); but is a bit more resistive than most metals. Silver, by contrast, while more expensive, is among the most conductive materials commonly available(discounting oddities that are superconductive at atypical temperatures, or materials that have unusual properties in films a few atoms thick, and so on).

    If you don't need a particularly conductive trace, a pencil will work just fine. You can even add impromptu carbon-film resistors, if you don't need high thermal dissipation or terribly precise tolerances; but if you want something as close to indistinguishable from the trace that is supposed to be there, silver is a better bet.

  8. Conductive tattoo ink by jdastrup · · Score: 3, Interesting

    That's what I would like to see, let's have someone put that metal jewelry and ink to use, attach a battery to your nose ring, embed an LED in your face, other cool stuff.

    1. Re:Conductive tattoo ink by vlm · · Score: 2

      That's what I would like to see, let's have someone put that metal jewelry and ink to use, attach a battery to your nose ring, embed an LED in your face, other cool stuff.

      Then there's the pr0n-industrial complex applications, that industry is always a leader in technology, at least behind the scenes. One person wears the battery, the other wears the cellphone motor, etc.

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  9. Prototyping with a resist pen by drussell · · Score: 3, Informative

    Prototyping wouldn't normally be done using using conductive pens. The hand drawn stuff was usually a resist pen on the actual copper-clad board, then etched.

  10. Re:But it's a Ball Point by BitZtream · · Score: 2

    Yea, but do you know how well a ball point pen works on PCB? Pretty poorly, which is why we use felt.

    I'd bet a good chunk of money this isn't even the first 'ball point pen with conductive ink', its more likely that intelligent people realized a long time ago that ball point pens work really poorly on surfaces with no texture to cause them to roll ... like say a perfectly smooth fibreglass PCB backing that you'd want to draw conductive lines on.

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  11. Re:But it's a Ball Point by bws111 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Which is probably why the article doesn't mention PCBs - it mentions paper, wood etc. The current felt pens work poorly on those surfaces, particularly if you flex them.

  12. Re:still no printer cartridges by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

    wake me up when i can finally buy a cheap printer that creates circuit boards.

    Nap time over! I've been doing it for nearly a decade with an old LaserJet 4. Can't get much cheaper than that.

    1. Make circuit
    2. Print out on thermal resist paper on LaserJet
    3. Use modified laminator to bond resist to copper
    4. Etch
    5. Not Profit (screwed up circuit, again....)

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  13. Watch out! by Thuktun · · Score: 2

    Perhaps I've read too much Charlie Stross, but this story immediately think that users should be careful what they draw with this pen...