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Movie Industry Files Injunction Against UK ISP

daedae writes "The Motion Picture Association (MPA), which represents studios including Twentieth Century Fox and Walt Disney, have filed suit in the UK against BT, Britain's largest ISP. The studios are asking for an injunction which would force BT to block access to Newzbin, on the grounds of massive losses to Usenet piracy."

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  1. Hehe, so much for cooperating by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 3, Informative

    Awh, poor BT, after taking it up the ass for the content owners, they get it shoved up there again!

    Remember that when dealing with the content industry, if you give them a finger, they bite of your head.

    Once this motion passed, other motions will be easier and easier until the entire internet consist only of sites the content industry approves off. And politicians who are used to compromises let it all happen because they think the content industry will meet them half way. The problem with meeting someone half way is that if it is you who keeps doing this, sooner or later you are completely on the other side.

    For those who can read dutch, read it and weep: http://tweakers.net/nieuws/75349/overheid-hollywood-staat-achter-onze-auteursrechtplannen.html

    For those who can't read dutch: You poor wretch of a not quite human being. How can you face the dark void that is your miserable life each day?

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    1. Re:Hehe, so much for cooperating by Hal_Porter · · Score: 4, Funny

      Dutch is just swamp German.

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    2. Re:Hehe, so much for cooperating by Thanshin · · Score: 4, Funny

      For those who can't read dutch: You poor wretch of a not quite human being. How can you face the dark void that is your miserable life each day?

      Dutch, a language with less native speakers than other great winners like Tagalog or Hausa.

      But don't worry, it's still almost five times more useful than Mandingo. :)

    3. Re:Hehe, so much for cooperating by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Just as bad is the fact that they want to use Cleanfeed, the system that silently and transparently blocks child porn sites. Talk about a slippery slope. We were assured that this system would not be abused for commercial reasons, it was purely for blocking the worst examples of child abuse.

      BT has a history of screwing its customers. They throttle iPlayer and YouTube so you can't watch the high quality streams in the evenings, and heavily retard (or "manage" as they prefer) P2P traffic. They have data unlimits* too. They also conducted secret Phorm trials and somehow got away without anyone going to jail. Oh, and according to Ofcom their "up to 20Mb" service gets an average of about 7Mb.

      * In ISP land "unlimited" now means the same thing as "limited", the only possible difference being that with unlimited sometimes the actual figure is a secret (e.g. Virgin's is 350GB/month but they don't publish it). I suppose it is a bit like flammable and inflammable. Therefore I am coining a new word: unlimit. It means the same thing as limit.

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  2. Would it really have hurt.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    to have given an accurate summary? They are not asking for an injunction again Newzbin, that site was sued into oblivion. They are asking for an injunction against Newzbin2 which has arisen to take its place. TFA you submitted says just that.

    Actually I can't hold you to that, the article is horridly written.

    "The Motion Picture Association (MPA), which represents studios including Twentieth Century Fox and Walt Disney, is urging a judge to grant an order forcing telecoms group BT to cut off access to the Newzbin website."

    "The MPA won a court battle against Newzbin last year and the site was taken offline."

    "But it reopened abroad under the name "Newzbin2" and is run by anonymous operators, compelling the MPA to take the unusual step of trying to force BT to block the site."

    This is why you hire editor's to proof these things children. Someone should have slapped this writer for contradicting himself within his own story.

  3. Would otherwise have purchased them? by kaptink · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Because all those using usenet to get movies would otherwise have purchased them? I doubt it.

    Is this not the same as suing gun manufacturers for making lethal tools?

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    1. Re: Would otherwise have purchased them? by hawkinspeter · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, it's more like forcing pavement (sidewalk for you american-english speakers) makers to rip up the street to prevent you from going to a gun shop.

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  4. Fun quote by PhrostyMcByte · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "The applicants and others have been making huge efforts, not only against the Newzbin website, but against piracy in general and yet the industries are still suffering huge losses to piracy," Richard Spearman, representing the MPA, told the court.

    I guess this is as close we'll ever get to hearing them say "Over the past 10 years we've spent a lot of our members' cash trying to kill off sharing sites, yet we've ultimately proven ineffective."

    Apple, Amazon, Spotify, and others have affected piracy far more than the RIAA/MPAA/etc. ever will.

  5. Re:Again??? by msobkow · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The American movie industry has been trying to censor the entire world's internet, in case you hadn't noticed. It being the UK this time is nothing special.

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  6. That's what happens by phantomfive · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That's what happens when you make censorship legal, like the UK recently did. People are going to start expecting you to enforce it

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  7. Re:Again??? by ashkante · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Maybe their "losses" wouldn't be so massive if they weren't spending all their money on lawyers?

  8. "massive losses" == Boycott? by malsbert · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How many here has boycotted the xxAA members?

    I have, and that makes me a little worried when i see the xxAA use claims of "massive losses" to justify their continuous lawsuit, i mean; When i no longer go to, or rent movies, the xxAA suffers losses, that is after all the point of boycotting them :) BUT, if all the xxAA has to do, is to make the claim; if i am not buying their "content" then i must be stealing it! where does that leave me and my little boycott? is there any point to a boycott, if it can be dismissed so easily? should i just forget it, and start pirating?

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  9. Re:So friggin' what! by JosKarith · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is an attempt to put a precedent into law. The next step will be massive numbers of lawsuits against everything under the sun, clogging up the legal system to the point where they can say "Look, put in a DCMA-style takedown system and we won't have to bother you anymore". Some judge tired of hearing these cases will start the ball rolling. At that point we may as well just hand UK internet over to the MPA.

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  10. Genie is out the bottle by Stu101 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    At the end of the day, file sharing wont go away. It may well change forms and maybe even go back to sneaker net or "swap meets" but no matter what they do, they won't be able to get back to the 80s revenue streams. (It doesn't help that the music is more crap these days, but thats another argument)

    At the end of the day, the world of file sharing has been changed forever by the internet. We can get offshore encrypted proxies for as little as $5.

    The other major difference the net has made is that people are better connected and tend to gravitate to like minded people. In the world of instant communication, encryption and dropbox et all, sharing will just mutate into other forms, and groups with similar interests will create their own file sharing platforms and darknets.

    Also in my area at least (or my interests) there are more artists giving stuff for free.

    The days of mega money from media are gone. All this is akin to trying to put toothpaste back in the tube, it's not going to work.

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    1. Re:Genie is out the bottle by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Insightful

      When I was a student most other students had twin tape decks and shelves full of cassette tapes. Strangely enough, the "80s revenue streams" happened after that.

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  11. Re:BAN the MPAA from the network by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I had a similar thought when I saw this story yesterday. BT and the other ISPs in the UK should just kick the MPAA off the internet - cut any service they have in the UK and block all their sites hosted abroad. There's no reason why ISPs should be forced to do business with them.