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FBI Wiretapped Hemingway
Hugh Pickens writes "On the fiftieth anniversary of the death by suicide of author Ernest Hemingway, his friend and biographer A. E. Hotchner writes in the NY Times that the man who 'had stood his ground against charging water buffaloes, who had flown missions over Germany, who had refused to accept the prevailing style of writing but, enduring rejection and poverty, had insisted on writing in his own unique way, this man, my deepest friend, was afraid — afraid that the FBI was after him, that his body was disintegrating, that his friends had turned on him, that living was no longer an option.' In the midst of depression and under treatment at St. Mary's Hospital in Rochester, Minnesota, Hemingway was convinced that his room was bugged, his phone was tapped, and suspected that one of the interns was a fed. Decades later, in response to a Freedom of Information petition, the FBI released its Hemingway file. It revealed that beginning in the 1940s J. Edgar Hoover had placed Hemingway under surveillance because he was suspicious of Ernest's activities in Cuba. The surveillance continued all through his confinement at St. Mary's Hospital, making it likely that the phone outside his room was tapped after all. 'In the years since, I have tried to reconcile Ernest's fear of the FBI, which I regretfully misjudged, with the reality of the FBI file,' writes Hotchner, author of Papa Hemingway and Hemingway and His World. 'I now believe he truly sensed the surveillance, and that it substantially contributed to his anguish and his suicide.'"
...assholes like LulzSec are going to bring this shit to everyone. Thanks for starting the new Red Scare
Like JD, he lived and died on his own terms. Fuck everyone that hasn't read Hemingway.
The immunity to telecoms that accepted requests to wiretap without warrants, the revenge taken on Qwest for not doing so, the new rules that pretty much allow warrantless wiretapping at will...those powers would never be abused by today's FBI. They are all staunch and true. There's no chance of this happening now. No way are they going to snoop on friends-of-relatives-of suspected possible terrorists. Zero chance that people who impress a girlfriend by going to a march to support that Gaza blockade ship (which helps Gaza, which helps Hamas, who are terrorists, who no-doubt support other terrorists that might attack us some day) will find themselves on a list.
Don't be paranoid. We don't need a government of laws when we have a government of such good men who only want to protect us.
From terrorists.
And communists.
Doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.
What's with all the commas in the summary? One freaking long sentence!
Worth pointing out is that there is a competing school of thought, which regards his suicide as likely having been an accident.
you're not paranoid if they're really out to get you.
The fact that he was wiretapped does not exclude he may have been a paranoiac.
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"Our biggest advantage is that no one takes us seriously.
And our second biggest advantage is that our communications are monitored, which provides a channel by which we can turn enemies into friends.
And our third biggest advantage is we have no assets, and so are not a profitable target and have nothing serious to fight over amongst ourselves.
Let's hope those advantages all hold true for a long time.
A 21st century issue: the irony of technologies of abundance in the hands of those still thinking in terms of scarcity.
Too bad for him! Were he lived today he wouldn't have suffered paranoia of being wiretapped as everyone is wiretapped. Good for us living today!
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but, when the conspiracy is shown to be real, i have nothing but venom and hate for the power abusing assholes who think they can get away with it
hoover was a cross-dressing pinhead (not that there's anything wrong with cross-dressing, but there's plenty wrong with hypocrisy). the fbi under him was an extension of mccarthy era hysteria and witch hunts. so fuck you hoover, thanks for contributing to the destruction of the composure of a great man and a great writer
those who seek to protect us, in the name of hypocritical assumptions about what we need protection from, are the real enemies of the usa
down with them all
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
Mr. Green: Why is J. Edgar Hoover on your phone?
Wadsworth: He's on everybody else's! Why shouldn't he be on mine?
I've dealt with these fuckers, and believe me, they are not about doing what is honest or
what is right. They are a tool of the government, and they have been used for plenty of
evil and will continue to be used in that manner. Just because that sick bastard J. Edgar
Hoover is gone, don't believe for one second that the FBI is suddenly kind and gentle,
because that would be very far off the mark.
...doesn't mean there isn't one. I am quite sure a large percentage of the paranoid notions out there are not true, but then there are the facts that surface much later that prove to have been true.
it's exactly this kinda crap that keeps the seeds of doubt sewn in my mind each and every time the government tells the people something.
With just a touch of exaggeration, I'll say that any public intellectual in that era who didn't have an FBI file probably was lacking a conscience. Einstein had a 1500-page FBI file, having aroused Hoover's suspicion with his involvement in "communist front" organizations like the American Crusade Against Lynching. America had been through the worst era of unrestrained robber-baron capitalism, followed by the Great Depression. It was the height of Jim Crow. If you were engaged in the intellectual life of the country, it was very likely that you were either going to become a socialist or some other kind of radical. Just to pick two more random examples: Margaret Sanger and Helen Keller were both leftists, and both had FBI files. American leftists were the only ones who spoke up against Fascism in Spain and tried to do anything about it -- at a time when right-wingers were often huge fans of Mussolini. For a lot of folks on the left, the big disillusionment came in 1939 with the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact.
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Edgar J Whoore didnt need a lulzsec to bring him upon usa as a plague like he was. he came about himself.
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This was also the era were the activities of the American clandestine agencies became so egregious that even congress took a look and grew something resembling teeth.
Might make you depressed if you thought your were going to be exposed.
Might even convince you it was time to kill yourself.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/jul/09/hemingway-failed-kgb-spy
So did Hemingway's estate ever sue the government for wrongful death or some such, after it was revealed that Hemingway's paranoia was justified and really not so paranoid after all?
Russian communists were fans of Hitler (Adolf and Stalin secretly divided Poland) until the Germans attacked the Soviet Union in 1941.
Mussolini was a fan of (wait for it)... FDR.
“America has a dictator,” Benito Mussolini proclaimed, watching FDR from abroad. He marveled at how the forces of “spiritual renewal” on display in the New Deal were destroying the outdated notion that democracy and liberalism were “immortal principles.” “Roosevelt is moving, acting, giving orders independently of the decisions or wishes of the Senate or Congress. A sole will silences dissenting voices.” That almost sounds like Harry Reid talking about Bush.
Mussolini reviewed FDR’s book, Looking Forward, proclaiming the author a kindred spirit. The way Roosevelt “calls his readers to battle,” he wrote, “is reminiscent of the ways and means by which fascism awakened the Italian people.” “Without question,” he continued, the “sea change” in America “resembles that of fascism.” Indeed, the comparisons were so commonplace, Mussolini’s press office banned the practice. “It is not to be emphasized that Roosevelt’s policy is fascist because these comments are immediately cabled to the United States and are used by his foes to attack him.”
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/155781/putin-hitler-mussolini-other-fdr-fans/jonah-goldberg
Just because you're not paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you. - Colin Sautar
While hunting one day with director Howard Hawks and William Faulkner, the acclaimed actor Clark Gable asked Faulkner to enumerate the five best authors of the day. "Ernest Hemingway, Willa Cather, Thomas Mann, John Dos Passos," Faulkner replied, "and myself." "Oh," Gable maliciously replied, "do you write for a living?" "Yes," Faulkner retorted, "and what do you do?"
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America had been through the worst era of unrestrained robber-baron capitalism, followed by the Great Depression.
Kind of like now, huh?
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Sounds like a sick individual to me.
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In fact, here's what he says about it, why he does it, and to all of us here:
"What the skiddies here don't understand is that I don't give a shit about dumbass 'karma' on the internet.. I'm here for the jollies with nothing to lose or fight for.. watching them destroy their world.. They can go absolutely nuts as far as I'm concerned.. It's nothing but pure entertainment (and data points) for me and mine... Tragicomedy is probably the best word I can think of to describe it" - by countertrolling (1585477) on Thursday June 30, @10:26AM (#36622502) Journal
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Sounds like a sick individual to me.
But Hemingway also was, by most accounts, not a particularly happy individual. I am not meaning to absolve the FBI from blame for its misbehavior; but his dad commited suicide, his mom mailed him the gun his father used for that, he couldn't stay in a relationship, and he had a drinking problem - he already had 2.9 strikes against him. His semi-autobiographical Nick Adams stories all seemed to show a poor sense of self worth too.
It seems odd that the FBI would worry about his activities in Cuba, though, given how his writing sure seemed (to me) to be pretty pro-Batista.
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Fighting against Fascism in Spain meant fighting FOR Stalinism in Spain. Let's not fap too hard to romantic visions of the Abraham Lincoln brigade.
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/SPrussia.htm
Franco kept Spain stable for decades, dealt with old-school Communists in the most effective way, and was a reasonably good steward of his country, which he kept out of WWII.
"This post is an artistic work of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact."
Yeah, but Margarate Sanger wrote books about how to "eradicate the unfit". . .
the damage done to the usa by communist infiltrators was less than that by the hystertical overreacting nitwits
the damage done to the usa by terorrism today is less than that by the hystertical overreacting nitwits
the usa isn't weak. why do you think it is so fragile? it isn't. YOU are. stop projecting your pantywaist fears, asshole. YOU and your kind do more damage to this great country than it's genuine enemies. at least this country's enemies intend malice. you damage the country in the name of helping it, but you're too fucking stupid to understand why your low iq panty waist fear and paranoia hurts more than it helps
fuck off ashole. you're no patriot. you're just a tool
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
Hemingway did spend a lot of time in Cuba. He enjoyed fishing off the coast on his ship - The Pilar. He spent a lot of time with my uncle, Antonio Gattorno - an outspoken, world-traveled, leader of the Modern Art Movement in Cuba. They spent many days drinking and fishing. Hemingway published his ONLY monograph written for his friend, Gattorno, about Gattorno in Cuba in 1935. Gattorno was very involved in the politics of Cuba and I am sure he had FBI eyes on him also. Hemingway brought Gattorno to the USA in 1936 and sponsored his first art exhibit in NYC. http://www.ArtByAntonioGattorno.com
If I thought I were being bugged, I would take a sudden interest in the hobby of in-home air horn playing at random times.
In particular, I think I would take to reading spy novels out loud, with random air for interjections to punctuate the juicy bits. Then if they carted me off, and gave as evidence something they had got from me, I'd simply as the time of the recording and give them the page number of the book the quote came from...
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
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In fact, here's what he says about it, why he does it, and to all of us here:
"What the skiddies here don't understand is that I don't give a shit about dumbass 'karma' on the internet.. I'm here for the jollies with nothing to lose or fight for.. watching them destroy their world.. They can go absolutely nuts as far as I'm concerned.. It's nothing but pure entertainment (and data points) for me and mine... Tragicomedy is probably the best word I can think of to describe it" - by countertrolling (1585477) on Thursday June 30, @10:26AM (#36622502) Journal
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Sounds like a sick individual to me.
July 1, 2011
Hemingway, Hounded by the Feds
By A. E. HOTCHNER
EARLY one morning, 50 years ago today, while his wife, Mary, slept upstairs, Ernest Hemingway went into the vestibule of his Ketchum, Idaho, house, selected his favorite shotgun from the rack, inserted shells into its chambers and ended his life.
There were many differing explanations at the time: that he had terminal cancer or money problems, that it was an accident, that he’d quarreled with Mary. None were true. As his friends knew, he’d been suffering from depression and paranoia for the last year of his life.
Ernest and I were friends for 14 years. I dramatized many of his stories and novels for television specials and film, and we shared adventures in France, Italy, Cuba and Spain, where, as a pretend matador with Ernest as my manager, I participated in a Ciudad Real bullfight. Ernest’s zest for life was infectious.
In 1959 Ernest had a contract with Life magazine to write about Spain’s reigning matadors, the brothers-in-law Antonio Ordóñez and Luis Miguel Dominguín. He cabled me, urging me to join him for the tour. It was a glorious summer, and we celebrated Ernest’s 60th birthday with a party that lasted two days.
But I remember it now as the last of the good times.
In May 1960, Ernest phoned me from Cuba. He was uncharacteristically perturbed that the unfinished Life article had reached 92,453 words. The contract was for 40,000; he was having nightmares.
A month later he called again. He had cut only 530 words, he was exhausted and would it be an imposition to ask me to come to Cuba to help him?
I did, and over the next nine days I submitted list upon list of suggested cuts. At first he rejected them: “What I’ve written is Proustian in its cumulative effect, and if we eliminate detail we destroy that effect.” But eventually he grudgingly consented to cutting 54,916 words. He was resigned, surrendering, and said he would leave it to Life to cut the rest.
I got on the plane back to New York knowing my friend was “bone-tired and very beat-up,” but thinking he simply needed rest and would soon be his old dominating self again.
In November I went out West for our annual pheasant shoot and realized how wrong I was. When Ernest and our friend Duke MacMullen met my train at Shoshone, Idaho, for the drive to Ketchum, we did not stop at the bar opposite the station as we usually did because Ernest was anxious to get on the road. I asked why the hurry.
“The feds.”
“What?”
“They tailed us all the way. Ask Duke.”
“Well ... there was a car back of us out of Hailey.”
“Why are F.B.I. agents pursuing you?” I asked.
“It’s the worst hell. The goddamnedest hell. They’ve bugged everything. That’s why we’re using Duke’s car. Mine’s bugged. Everything’s bugged. Can’t use the phone. Mail intercepted.”
We rode for miles in silence. As we turned into Ketchum, Ernest said quietly: “Duke, pull over. Cut your lights.” He peered across the street at a bank. Two men were working inside. “What is it?” I asked.
“Auditors. The F.B.I.’s got them going over my account.”
“But how do you know?”
“Why would two auditors be working in the middle of the night? Of course it’s my account.”
All his friends were worried: he had changed; he was depressed; he wouldn’t hunt; he looked bad.
Ernest, Mary and I went to dinner the night before I left. Halfway through the meal Ernest said we had to leave immediately. Mary asked what was wrong.
“Those two F.B.I. agents at the bar, that’s what’s wrong.”
The next day Mary had a private talk with me. She was terribly distraught. Ernest spent hours every day with the manuscript of his Paris sketches
Stop voting in Evangelical Fundamentalists and you'll see how much push back Congress will actually do to keep a checks n' balance with the FBI
It isn't evangelical types that are doing anything like that. Look at Obama, going after dispensaries now...
If you REALLY want to do something about it, vote in people campaigning for smaller government and reduced spending. A smaller government doesn't have time to waste resources wiretapping random people, nor the resources to do so.
That is the ONLY path which will actually help, not scare-mongering against people who happen to follow one kind of religion or another (or none).
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
To be fair, Hoover had tabs on everyone. Every politician, every politician-wannabe, every man who stuck his head out in some way, shape, or form, Hoover knew about.
Hoover made Nixon resign (technically, his second in command, but it was still the information Hoover gathered and the network Hoover built). Hoover killed the Kennedy brothers (he didn't pull the trigger, but without his approval, JFK and RFK wouldn't have been assassinated). And these were only the people who made him their enemy. Imagine how many more were complicit.
It wasn't about political views. It was about power. The FBI was his personal government-sanctioned domestic spy agency, but not for the sake of "national security" or anything ridiculous like that. The FBI was there to make sure Hoover got his way at all times, no matter what he wanted, irrespective of the country or anybody else's interests. Hoover's files on intellectuals and other public figures were a way to either eventually discredit or blackmail them, whichever one was more effective (those he couldn't do that to he had shot, and then had the trail covered up).
You have to wonder if the FBI really has changed that much since then. It's thanks to Nixon that Hoover's second in command didn't take it over and begin a second reign of terror over the American people. It's thanks to Nixon that the FBI follows the order of the president, an elected official, instead of someone appointed. But you have to wonder how much of the old culture remains, and is in fact influencing the presidency instead of the other way around.
What a sad story. It can't be nice being in a position where your friends and other people around you wont listen to you and treat you like you're crazy just because you are open minded enough to consider the possibility that some seemingly-fantastic concepts, might just be true.
It reminded me of the I, Robot (film) quote:
"Does believing you're the last sane man on the planet make you crazy? 'Cause if it does, maybe I am."
Poor guy.
Hemmingway was one of the greatest celebrities of all time. Had I been a president, I would have ordered him to be wiretapped just to hear the latest rumors without having to wait for the books to come out. Think of it as a primitive RSS feed.
No, he merely used a shotgun approach in the hope that someday he would hit something solid to find a truth that would obsure his pack of lies. His offer to stop harassing Arthur Miller if he could get a vote winning publicity photo taken standing next to Marilyn Monroe really summed the slimy weasel up as the man he was. It was all about making a lot of noise so he could get a chance at being President and the commie threat bullshit was just his scam to get there. Real spies didn't matter because McCarthy had no way of knowing who they were anyway. Your conspiracy theory holds no water because you've just thrown together a pile of things that may have justified two or three lies if McCarthy had known about them, but he didn't because he was really nobody of consequence until after he had made all the wild claims.
Now you've made some very wild claims above. Which members of Congress over the years were named as Soviet spies? Go on, you've suggested that's the case so put up and let us all remember them as traitors or try sticking a little closer to reality.
This is such a drag.
Franco kept Spain stable for decades, dealt with old-school Communists in the most effective way, and was a reasonably good steward of his country, which he kept out of WWII.
By which you mean he supported the Nazis and offered them assistance whilst not fighting in WWII himself, summarily executed his political opponents and sent hundreds of thousands more to forced labour camps, totally rolled back women's rights and religious freedoms, and was a least as bad as the Communist states - but that's OK because he wasn't red.
There's a reason the US isn't very popular.
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In fact, here's what he says about it, why he does it, and to all of us here:
"What the skiddies here don't understand is that I don't give a shit about dumbass 'karma' on the internet.. I'm here for the jollies with nothing to lose or fight for.. watching them destroy their world.. They can go absolutely nuts as far as I'm concerned.. It's nothing but pure entertainment (and data points) for me and mine... Tragicomedy is probably the best word I can think of to describe it" - by countertrolling (1585477) on Thursday June 30, @10:26AM (#36622502) Journal
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Sounds like a sick individual to me.
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In fact, here's what countertrolling says about it, why he does it, and to all of us here:
"What the skiddies here don't understand is that I don't give a shit about dumbass 'karma' on the internet.. I'm here for the jollies with nothing to lose or fight for.. watching them destroy their world.. They can go absolutely nuts as far as I'm concerned.. It's nothing but pure entertainment (and data points) for me and mine... Tragicomedy is probably the best word I can think of to describe it" - by countertrolling (1585477) on Thursday June 30, @10:26AM (#36622502) Journal
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Sounds like a sick individual to me.
Be careful here Anonymous Coward. There are at least two groups from the US religious right who are pumping out stories about how Sanger was a racist who wanted forced sterilizations. I have not read EVERYTHING she wrote, but I've read a lot, and here's all I've ever seen: She was indeed a Malthusian and she believed in reducing the "unfit" by allowing the poor access to birth control. She believed that voluntary birth control would reduce the number of unfit in the population. Yes, she did, like many do-gooders of her day, support sterilization of the developmentally-disabled or emotionally disturbed who had been placed in public custody. However, it was clear that she thought this had little to do with eugenics but was to "protect" such persons from the burden of parenthood. My take on it so far is that Sanger is not as bad as she's being painted by people who currently want to attack reproductive rights, family planning, birth control, whatever you want to call it. Given the circumstances, I think she comes out with karma on the plus side. (If you want to read about the circumstances from someone else, the Autobiography of William Carlos Williams has some passages about mid-way through discussing what it was like for him working as a doctor to women and children in Hell's Kitchen. And you might check out the websites "exposing" Sanger; most of them I've seen eventually get around to "ZOMG she also approves of pre-marital sex," which reveals a strong anti-sex bias at work.)
I love Hemingways writings, but Hemingway aside, oh my god - an Adobe Flash application to view their files? It's slow as molasses, unresponsive, has some weird copycat of a hand cursor and has its own scrolling in addition to the page scrolling - in short, it's a disaster! Jesus, haven't these guys heard of PDF, courtesy of the same company? Or are they on LSD or something?
Those who restrict themselves to "moral" methods cannot win large wars. It was easier to fight a two-front war against Germany than have a Soviet Union (which couldn't be cut off or outflanked) push West.
Morality does not win wars.
There being no reason or benefit to not murder Stalinists and their supporters, and every reason TO liquidate them, it was wise to do that and support those who did that.
The fight against Nazism and Communism was an existential struggle. That justifies (by logic, morality is whatever one feels like making up to suit their desires) playing each against the other, be it taking advantage of Spain or taking advantage of the destruction of the Wehrmacht AND of millions of Communists on the Eastern Front.
Let's not forget Franco had plenty of supporters. He wasn't "inflicted" on Spain. The winner was decided by battle, which is what battle is for. People accept that the way to stop Fascists is to kill them, but that applies to Stalinists too.
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Obama has 6 espionage act prosecutions going against people for talking to journalists. thats more than we have had since circa 1919 when the Sedition Act was part of the espionage act.
You have to realize that several of these cases also involve the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, specifically subparagraph (a)(1), the "Comptuer Espionage" law.
When they came down on manning for the Collateral Murder video, this was one of the laws they used.
When Thomas Drake plead guilty to a misdemeanor, for simply accessing UNCLASSIFIED documents on an NSA network, the misdemeanor he plead guilty to was under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act.
If you read that act, it is a back-door way to trash the first amendment, by simply putting "on a computer" after a whole bunch of innocuous stuff that wouldn't otherwise ever have been illegal.
evidence? here are a few books written in the past 5 years.
Fool's Gold, by Gillian Tett
The Zeroes, by Randall Lane
Too Big to Fail, by Andrew Ross Sorkin
The Trillion Dollar Meltdown, by Charles R Morris
All the Devils are Here, by Bethany McLean and Joe Nocera
A Colossal Failure of Common Sense, by Lawrence McDonald with Patrick Robinson
Devil's Casino, Vicky Ward
House of Cards, by William D Cohan
Crash of the Titans, Greg Farrell
Street Fighters, Kate Kelley
Confidence Game, Christine S Richards
EConned, Yves Smith
The Asylum, McGrath Goodman
Inside Job, Charles Ferguson (film)
Some of these CEOs are not upstanding, concernced citizens. Many of them are highly reckless, thrill seeking individuals, who use drugs and prostitutes, and who took enormous amounts of money from their own organizations while those organizations fell apart, and were then bailed out by the taxpayers.
there are pdfs available at the bottom of the page.
If it weren't for those "evil corporations" making money you wouldn't have that computer in front of you with which you write you produce your asinine drivel. If a worker isn't happy to get his $5000 bonus then he can go work somewhere else. After all he wouldn't even be getting that if it were not for the stockholders who are the real driving force behind said "evil corporations". If you don't like it, leave.
Cheat the moderation system - here's where countertrolling explains what he's doing while he trolls others (to his fellow trolltalk.com friends) to downmod them via his registered account, logout, & ac stalk, harass, and troll them:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2245866&cid=36491652
Here's where countertrolling's "troll mechanics" for downmodding others is explained in detail by someone that got sick of it happening:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2271908&cid=36579618
As far as bogus up moderations, the trolltalk.com bunch (tomhudson, countertrolling, & others) collectively "team up" to upmod one another, in teams, as favors to one another.
(Talk about low, and bogus!)
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In fact, here's what countertrolling says about it, why he does it, and to all of us here:
"What the skiddies here don't understand is that I don't give a shit about dumbass 'karma' on the internet.. I'm here for the jollies with nothing to lose or fight for.. watching them destroy their world.. They can go absolutely nuts as far as I'm concerned.. It's nothing but pure entertainment (and data points) for me and mine... Tragicomedy is probably the best word I can think of to describe it" - by countertrolling (1585477) on Thursday June 30, @10:26AM (#36622502) Journal
QUOTED VERBATIM FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2281808&cid=36622502
Sounds like a sick individual to me.
(Don't get lured into their journals either. That's their main goal along with getting these data points that way. Just ignore them and they will be powerless before you know it (no mod points)).
Those who restrict themselves to "moral" methods cannot win large wars.
Perhaps winning large wars isn't in itself necessarily a good thing? If "winning" means duplicating the behaviour of those you're fighting against, and entrenching it as public policy, it sounds like just a synonym for "losing".
You are not a brain: http://books.google.com/books?id=2oV61CeDx-YC
The OP said Hemingway "had flown missions over Germany". google was no help in finding any details on these missions, presumably flights on B-17s or B-24s. Do any /.ers have mission details?
Circle the wagons and fire inward. Entropy increases without bounds.
"America had been through the SECOND worst era of unrestrained robber-baron capitalism,"
There, fixed that for you. Your version was about ten years out of date.
Besides his dad, I think his brother committed suicide as well as a few others in his immediate family. Something genetic perhaps? Or maybe once a family member commits suicide, the taboo against it starts to crumble.
That ignores the OTHER "outcome set" of losing, which is subjugation to foreigners, famine, pestilence and death.
Rome and Carthage may not, for example, been hugely different. I'd prefer to have been a Roman for obvious reasons.
The tendency to view war ONLY through the currently fashionable lens of popular "morality" ignores everything else!
"This post is an artistic work of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact."