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South Korean Textbooks to Go Digital by 2015

South Korea plans to spend $2.4 billion buying tablets for students and digitizing materials in an effort to go completely digital in the classroom by 2015. From the article: "This move also re-ignites the age-old debate about whether or not students learn better from screens or printed material. Equally important, there's the issue of whether or not devices with smaller form factors are as effective as current textbooks, which tend to have significantly more area on each page."

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  1. digital rights by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Right, that removes the only real reason to keep buying new textbooks every year - digital copies last in pristine condition even when handled by schoolkids (no guarantee about the reader devices though). But who wants to bet the textbook companies will saddle them with restrictive licenses and digital rights management so that the schools will actually be unable to reuse the digital textbook licenses they bought the previous year?

    1. Re:digital rights by muuh-gnu · · Score: 4, Insightful

      > digital copies last in pristine condition even when handled by schoolkids

      This problem could have been solved by handing out pdfs, which they can print out over and over again. They could make notes on them and still have the originals. They wouldnt have to carry the whole book around all the time, they could just take a few pages they need. They wouldnt have to take as care of them as of books, becouse they could always be reprinted when destroyed or lost.

      Why does the education system rely on overpriced commercial literature at all? Why doesnt it work to hire 1-2 experts per subject and let them write for hire definitive textbooks for the particular subject which then could be used without any royalties for years and decades by thousands of students? Why are they forced to buy new books over and over when everybody has a printer at home?

    2. Re:digital rights by jpapon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I find it hard to believe that "there isn't much profit in many of them to start with", when I have to pay $90 - $125 for a textbook. If there isn't much profit it's because they're using antiquated printing processes that require large runs to be profitable. Even given that, at $125, I have no pity for you if you can't turn a hefty profit.

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    3. Re:digital rights by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      I am an expat who lives in South Korea. I have never seen a K-12 textbook which costs more than 8,000 won (~$8 USD). In fact, I have about five middle school textbooks on my shelf from the current year, and they only cost between 1,000 and 3,000 won each. Oddly, the "international" textbooks (read: American textbooks simply labeled as "Not for sale in the US.") actually cost about half of what they would back home.

      Sadly, you get outside of textbooks, and the prices for English books are pretty costly.

    4. Re:digital rights by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Korean public schools don't reuse textbooks. They are purchased new every year by the students. They're ridiculously cheap, too. They get filled with study notes over the course of the year. (I'm an expat teacher.)

    5. Re:digital rights by VortexCortex · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This problem could have been solved by handing out pdfs, which they can print out over and over again.

      You are aware that printer ink is one of the most expensive commodities on Earth, right?

      However, You can do all those beneficial things WITHOUT INK or toner, if you just had a tablet PC... Make notes, "File -> Save As..."

      As for printing...WHY? Just call up the document from the wireless server if it's not in your course data package on your device for some reason.

      I had to buy all of my textbooks in Highshcool because of a car accident. The cost was over $500 -- That was one semester / one year, and get this -- now that I've long sense graduated: I can't refer to the books.

      However, when I taught myself to code in 1992 (age 12) I saved the example code that I had entered and some references and guides I downloaded from Compuserve and other BBSs -- Oh, look, it's on my local NAS, and my S3 storage, and I can pull it right up on my desktop, my netbook, my thinkpad, or my OLPC, from anywhere in the world, at any time (provided Internet access is available, or I've had the forethought to download it to the internal storage).

      You know, for a race that's actually got some amazing technology that we only dreamed of in the recent past, we sure are reluctant to use it...

    6. Re:digital rights by rolfwind · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I think asian countries are a bit different. At least in Japan, they don't heft heavy tomes of text books around, but use 6-8 week pamphlet that have their lessons/content for that period of time in that subject. I'm under the impression that those are owned by the school system.

      If wikibooks or similiar took off, no reason that can't happen in schools. After all, there is no reason to really update algebra/calc books all that much. It was pretty much the same today as 100 years ago.

      http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Main_Page

    7. Re:digital rights by EdIII · · Score: 3, Insightful

      They could easily find that purchasing the rights, as a work for hire, would be more cost-effective than purchasing copies.

      I have this really crazy fucking idea. Totally nuts. But hear me out....

      How about you "crowd source" with a couple dozen university doctorates, psychologists, and those that study effective learning techniques... and I dunnnnoooo... maybe give something back to the world ?

      I'm sure that every engineer, scientist, and academic here realizes that their entire world is built on the efforts of others right? So why not contribute back to the environment that gave you the luxuries that you have? Why not become part of the foundation for the next generation of people that will push us ever farther forwards?

      Screw the publishers and the book writers. Nothing in life says that they should be guarnteed a job and huge piles of cash. Or that when presented with an environmentally friendly and effective tool with the new technology we created (which was created most likely taking for granted all the hard work before it) we would not use it to its full potential?

      I have nothing against people making money. However, if anything should follow the open source model, it is educational textbooks. If I really were smart enough and well respected enough in my field I would write a book if I thought it would help other people that do what I do. However, I doubt that I could create a book half as good as the programming books I have read anyways.

      There really are some things that we should just all altruistically create for the Public Domain.

  2. Oh Yeah? by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 4, Funny

    South Korean Textbooks to Go Digital by 2015

    Oh yeah? Well in North Korea our textbooks will go digital by 2014! We'd do it even faster except we can't get enough parts to build our nkPads. Damn you Apple!

    North Korea still the best Korea!

    1. Re:Oh Yeah? by antifoidulus · · Score: 2

      You REALLY don't think lobbyists were involved in this decision at all? Hmmm.... lets think, now I wonder what company will be providing every single student in Korea with a tablet computer...hmm....thats a tough one, but I'm sure such a huge Korean company had NO influence on this decision. Nope, none at all.

    2. Re:Oh Yeah? by blippo · · Score: 2

      hm? Soomsung? Saamsoong? SumSang? Nope totally blank, can't come up with anything.

    3. Re:Oh Yeah? by tehcyder · · Score: 2

      All the cheaper competitors have a security flaw that allows unsecure files. It's called "PNG support", and you get porn in .PNG format -- won't somebody think of the children!!

      Yeah, because you can't find any porn jpegs on the internet. Well, apart from the millions of porn jpegs, I suppose.

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    4. Re:Oh Yeah? by Robert+Zenz · · Score: 2

      I'm not sure if you've noticed, but I think HAL tried to be sarcastic. There are many big companies and even politician which would try to tell us such a nonsense to support their decision, just think of the following statements: "Torrent is only used to copy music", "We need to stay open and compatible in the future, we're going with Microsoft" or my personal favorite "Nobody uses Linux".

  3. Re:Good by jpapon · · Score: 2
    While Academia does churn through a lot of paper, in my experience they are also very good at recycling it.

    Not to mention that while it may seem like a lot, I bet business goes through significantly more. This is because the majority of pages printed/used in academia are actually read by someone (putting a limit on the number of pages used, since we can only read/write so fast). In business vast quantities of pages are printed that are read by someone once, then printed and used over and over again without reading (contracts or other forms for instance).

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  4. It's possible to learn on a computer by iampiti · · Score: 2

    In my opinion, the debate is not screens vs paper its distracting environments vs non-distracting. If you try to do serious work/learning and you've got apps open for email,im,facebook etc. you're going to be interrupted every few minutes and each interruption breaks your concentration which is difficult and time consuming to regain later. I even close all distractions when I try to concentrate at work (the most important is email). So, it's possible to learn using a computer you just have to close everything not related to the task at hand.

  5. New excuse by Errol+backfiring · · Score: 3, Funny

    I did not do my homework because my batteries ran out.

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    1. Re:New excuse by Rogerborg · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I did not do my homework because the publisher revoked a book that I foolishly thought that I owned.

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    2. Re:New excuse by gsslay · · Score: 2

      I did not do my homework because stuffing my tablet into my school bag, kicking it along the corridor, striking my fellow students with it and having it hurled from the school bus window, broke it.

      This never happened with previous books.

      I think it also has a virus.

  6. Hopeful by edcs · · Score: 2

    I used an ebook version of my history text book last year, and it worked relatively well. Other than a few formatting issues, I found it pretty easy to highlight things and make notes on my kindle. The only problem was that since it didn't retain the page numbers of the print edition it was next to impossible to reference in essays (in the end I had to use Google Books find the location of quotes in the print edition), but if they lean into this properly then they'll probably be more open to adapting the current referencing systems to be more up to date.

  7. Re:Anyone thought of the enviroment costs.. by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

    The environmental cost of that fancy, glossy paper is enormous, and textbooks are reprinted every few years either for political reasons or simply to keep the pocketbooks of the publishers padded.

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  8. Re:Anyone thought of the enviroment costs.. by Viol8 · · Score: 2

    If the devices are intended to be used for something like 10 years then you might have a point. But lets be honest - they'll be "out of date" in 3 or 4 years and will be replaced.