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TSA Employee Stole $50k Worth of Electronics

mrquagmire writes "A Continental Airlines employee Monday caught Nelson Santiago-Serrano, 30, stealing an iPad from a suitcase in Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport, according to the Broward County Sheriff's Office. Over the past six months, Santiago-Serrano told authorities he stole $50,000 worth of computers, GPS devices and other electronics from luggage he screened, took pictures of them to post for sale online and sold the items often by the time his shift ended."

220 comments

  1. Your government dollars at work. by Pharmboy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Thank god for the TSA. I feel safer already.

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    1. Re:Your government dollars at work. by Edmund+Blackadder · · Score: 1

      Something like this is bound to happen occasionally whether the TSA does the screening or someone else. The only difference is that if a private company was doing the screening the screeners would be guaranteed to be minimum wage employees and many of them would have previous arrest records as was the case before the TSA started.

    2. Re:Your government dollars at work. by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      Something like this is bound to happen occasionally whether the TSA does the screening or someone else.

      It happens less when you're separated from your electronic doodads for several minutes while you're shuffled into a separate line for the scanner.

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    3. Re:Your government dollars at work. by tqk · · Score: 2

      Something like this is bound to happen occasionally whether the TSA does the screening or someone else.

      He's in an airport, one of the most heavily CCTV'd places on 21st Century Earth, was only caught because a sharp eyed employee noticed, and he got away with it for six months, after stealing $50,000, while advertising his stolen wares on the web.

      You're an idiot!

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    4. Re:Your government dollars at work. by tqk · · Score: 2

      ... while advertising his stolen wares on the web.

      ... and selling them while "at work." FFS!

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    5. Re:Your government dollars at work. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      $50,000? That's a lot of tubes. Get these transistors off my lawn!

    6. Re:Your government dollars at work. by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 1

      It also happens less when I can actually lock my luggage with a lock for which the TSA doesn't have a key.

    7. Re:Your government dollars at work. by mabhatter654 · · Score: 1

      I think they should invite the victims of the thefts and put this guy naked in the glass screening box and let folks at him right in front of security.

      This whole security theater is very Machivellie... But to balance the scales for the public, the government has to show that screwups from the "watchers" are punished... Buitally, sportingly, publically.. The threat of the "legal system" is not enough... Agee all TSA is outside much of the old legal standards. It is time to skip due process for these guys that get caught and toss them straight to the mob.. I'd even have the President put it on TV for all to see.

      We gave up our personal security of our goods... We want bread and circus we want public corporal punishment!!!!

    8. Re:Your government dollars at work. by nospam007 · · Score: 1

      "It also happens less when I can actually lock my luggage with a lock for which the TSA doesn't have a key."

      They just cut it open, as advertised. (or the conveyer belt does, as the same article below shows)

      http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/customer/claims/damagedlocks.shtm

    9. Re:Your government dollars at work. by Chardansearavitriol · · Score: 1

      Well I for one am GLAD. Yes you heard me. In these times of uncertainty, fear, confusion and doubt, its comforting to know the people who cliam to protect me are stealing my things. Where else are you gonna get such a predictable, consistent outcome? In a way, its actually comforting.

    10. Re:Your government dollars at work. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not only do they employ pedophiles, now they employ thieves. What's next, murderers? "TSA agent shoots flyer in the head for complaining about intrusive pat-down"?

      I'm surprised Americans still didn't put an end to this.

    11. Re:Your government dollars at work. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm so glad the Obama admin moved forward to allow the TSA to become unionized. Once that is complete, this douchebag could stay on the public teet for another 4 years while he appeals his convictions....

      TSA is a joke. They're the same losers that were working for private companies prior to 9/11-- except now they're paid more, have federal arrogance, and greater freedom to harass and mollest those they choose.

    12. Re:Your government dollars at work. by osgeek · · Score: 1

      Please raise my taxes to pay for more of this shit.

    13. Re:Your government dollars at work. by sabt-pestnu · · Score: 1

      I'd like to see testimony from an airport worker about that conveyer belt, and information on how many bags with locks go through on a daily basis.

      IE, were those locks planted after having been cut off? And if not, what are the odds that your lock was removed by "the conveyer belt" rather than TSA workers looking to score a little loot.

    14. Re:Your government dollars at work. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When I go through security I specifically order my things on the x-ray conveyor belt: laptop and other electronics first, followed by laptop bag, followed by shoes/keys/quart sized bag of liquids/etc in a bin, then my other carry on bag. Then, I wait until I get the nod from the TSA to go through the metal detector. If I time it right, I see my laptop coming out of the x-ray about the same time I get through the metal detector. It doesn't always work perfectly, but allows me to keep a better eye on my valuables.

  2. TSA = Dumbasses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Gee, I wonder if the TSA will still claim, "our boys followed procedure, we stand behind them."

    What a laughing stock the TSA has become.

    1. Re:TSA = Dumbasses by magarity · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Gee, I wonder if the TSA will still claim, "our boys followed procedure, we stand behind them."

      Too bad for him he was caught before they've finished unionizing. If he got away with it a little longer he would just sit in the TSA equivalent to a "rubber room".

    2. Re:TSA = Dumbasses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, because nobody negotiating with a union on management's side would ever figure out how to make sure you can fire someone for outright theft. More anti-union (really anti-worker) 'the boss is always right and you should take what you're given' crap. Oh, yeah, and TSA still = Dumbasses. It's just that they're not the only ones.

    3. Re:TSA = Dumbasses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What a laughing stock the TSA has become.

      Were they ever not a laughing stock?

      The TSA is, without question, one of the worst theatrical productions I've ever witnessed. Their costumes aren't bad (although a little baggy on most of the actors), but there are so many obvious flaws in the plot, that I can't imagine anyone taking it seriously.

      I'd personally recommend "Spiderman Turn Off The Dark" over TSA. It at least has music and hasn't wasted anywhere close to the amount of money that the TSA has.

  3. TSA is above the law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Why does this not surprise me. Keep an eye on this I bet he gets a slap on the hand.

    1. Re:TSA is above the law by ShavedOrangutan · · Score: 1

      One way or the other, it's theft, and should have charges at the state or local level.

      Whether he gets his job back after serving time is another question.

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    2. Re:TSA is above the law by sco08y · · Score: 1

      Why does this not surprise me. Keep an eye on this I bet he gets a slap on the hand.

      Maybe you can ask Blogger Bob (no relation to Baghdad Bob!) over at the TSA blog, WTF?

    3. Re:TSA is above the law by SnarfQuest · · Score: 1

      He is a government employee. The government exempts themselves from most of the laws that you and me have to follow. I doubt he will even get a slap on the hand.

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    4. Re:TSA is above the law by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 1

      Sounds like being a corporate employee.

  4. No Android gear stolen by jmcbain · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Because who wants fragmented software and hardware?

    1. Re:No Android gear stolen by somersault · · Score: 1

      Yeah, what kind of idiots enjoy choice and variety in their lives?

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    2. Re:No Android gear stolen by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

      Plenty of people, apparently. He sold everything he stole. A random 30 year old Floridian working at the TSA booth stealing people's stuff probably isn't exactly a shrewd electronics aficionado, such as yourself.

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    3. Re:No Android gear stolen by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 0

      Yeah, what kind of idiots enjoy choice and variety in their lives?

      The sort that see exploits in Open Source Software as proof of how great it is?

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  5. once again, we ask - by Lead+Butthead · · Score: 2

    Who watches the watcher? No, do not look in the direction of Washington DC. Nobody there cares.

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    1. Re:once again, we ask - by sco08y · · Score: 4, Informative

      Who watches the watcher? No, do not look in the direction of Washington DC. Nobody there cares.

      First off DC is not the only place to look. Texas has put together an "anti-groping" bill, supported by the governor. At least two presidential candidates have proposed abolishing it altogether. And there's a bill in the House aimed at making TSA agents liable for unwanted physical contact.

      That's just from a quick search... there are plenty of legislators who are interested in reforming the TSA, but the specifics of how the TSA is run is the executive branch's responsibility, so you should probably write the President.

    2. Re:once again, we ask - by IonOtter · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Except that Texas chickened out and backed off. The TSA threated to designate the entire state of Texas a "no-fly zone".

      However, it would seem that a few legislators actually used their brains and thought about that for a moment, and decided to push the issue and call the government's bluff.

      I mean, seriously. Who actually believes that the feds would actually BAN all flights in and out of Texas?

      Please...

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    3. Re:once again, we ask - by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I mean, seriously. Who actually believes that the feds would actually BAN all flights in and out of Texas?

      Texas is fly-over country, nobody on either coast cares if they can't fly to Texas.

    4. Re:once again, we ask - by Kikuchi · · Score: 1

      How about you forget about watchers entirely?

      Plus, the TSA is^W was supposed to protect people from terrorists and ended to be a huge PITA so I really don't want to imagine what would be an organization supposed to protect people from the TSA.

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    5. Re:once again, we ask - by aztracker1 · · Score: 1

      Irony, an unconstitutional act that actually does relate to commerce provisions in the Constitution. (as opposed to the gov't bloat under the guise of it)

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    6. Re:once again, we ask - by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The trick I think would be to get other states involved. If enough states refuse to cooperate with the federal government you have a civil war looming. Assuming the issue is of significance anyway. Unfortunately we don't take pride in being state citizens or southerners or northerners. We take price in being US citizens and as such we have given up all state rights.

    7. Re:once again, we ask - by blindseer · · Score: 1

      Texas is fly-over country, nobody on either coast cares if they can't fly to Texas.

      Texas is the second most populous state in this federation. It has 38 votes in the presidential electoral college. There are 36 congressman in the already Republican controlled House of Representatives. The President, from the Democratic Party, will be up for election next year. I can guarantee you that there are some very influential people on at least one coast that care about flights going into Texas.

      If the federal government wants to stop flights into or out of Texas because the TSA can no longer grope six year old girls, force ten year old boys to remove their shirts, make a cancer stricken grandmother remove her Depends, and spill urine all over people that had bladder cancer, then let them. What will happen is that they will be voted out of office next year, the TSA will disappear, and flights will resume into Texas.

      One way or another this groping will stop and the federal government will have to abide by the Fourth Amendment to our Constitution.

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    8. Re:once again, we ask - by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perry never supported that bill, in action, anyway.

    9. Re:once again, we ask - by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure Texas wouldn't mind if retards like yourself couldn't visit either.

  6. Security FAIL by putaro · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If they can take something out without getting caught, they could be putting something in. Who would bother with suicide bombs if they can slip it into the luggage?

    1. Re:Security FAIL by lunchlady55 · · Score: 2

      Key Words: "As a passenger"

      You think they check EVERY meal cart as it's brought in by truck from some local food service contractor? What about the fuel tankers? What about the gift shop merch? As an EMPLOYEE it's probably really easy to sneak stuff in. You're part of the chain of trust, and as everyone knows, it's only as strong as the weakest link.

    2. Re:Security FAIL by Culture20 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      10 to 1 the TSA agents don't have to submit to a grope or back scatter every morning when they start work. There should be three man teams, randomly assembled every day who have access to baggage. All other TSA agents should should not be able to see baggage let alone touch it. Otherwise, it is a security hole like GP mentioned.

    3. Re:Security FAIL by artor3 · · Score: 0

      Key Word: "Probably"

      You're just guessing. I was simply pointing out the failure in logic that if you can take something out, it must be possible to put something in. I'm not saying it's impossible to put something in, only that this doesn't prove (or even suggest) anything.

    4. Re:Security FAIL by Pharmboy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I have a better idea: Only screen for explosives, and let passengers carry weapons on the plane. Then we don't need the TSA gropes and terrorists don't stand a chance.

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    5. Re:Security FAIL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are assuming they do things intelligently for the purposes of security rather than theatre

    6. Re:Security FAIL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not employee we're talking about, it's TSA agents. They are here to protect the people ; they are honest gu... wait a minute.

    7. Re:Security FAIL by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 5, Funny

      I was going to subscribe to your newsletter, but then I thought about how many dead uppity stewardesses would result from armed passengers, and then I really wanted to subscribe to your newsletter.

    8. Re:Security FAIL by whoever57 · · Score: 2

      Actually, it is worse. The TSA agents are screened when their shift starts, then, they are allowed to leave the screening area and return to the secure area without re-screening. They can go and get their lunch and return without screening.

      So the screening they receive in the morning is irrelevant.

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    9. Re:Security FAIL by lexsird · · Score: 0

      +1 mod Funny as hell.

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    10. Re:Security FAIL by Vinegar+Joe · · Score: 1

      I thought about how many dead uppity stewardesses would result from armed passengers.......

      The skies would be friendlier, wouldn't they? :^)

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    11. Re:Security FAIL by reboot246 · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I have a better idea: Only screen for terrorists, and let passengers who have concealed-carry permits take their weapons aboard the plane.

      Not very politically correct, but very common sense.

      Oh, and I agree about not needing the TSA.

    12. Re:Security FAIL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Archie Bunker wanted to stop hijackings by issuing every passenger a .45!

      I think he was onto something!

    13. Re:Security FAIL by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      You're applying the wrong logic, though.

      What we're basically talking about here is a classic MITM attack. It does hold that, as a screener, if he was able to remove items without being noticed for 6 months, then he would have been able to add items for the same period of time.

      I am curious about what the other items he stole were. Was he that good that he was getting big iPads regularly, or did he get greedy and stupid (the ones that get caught always do) and go for something too big to sneak out?

    14. Re:Security FAIL by tqk · · Score: 1

      ... The TSA agents are screened when their shift starts ...

      Wow. What a great job. You get to grope innocent civvies all shift long, steal valuable electronics and sell it while on the job, and if you can make contact with terrists, you can get kickbacks from them to stuff explosives into random passengers' baggage. Where do I sign up? Xe Corp.? Googling ...

      Holy clusterfsck.

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    15. Re:Security FAIL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is how they smuggle drugs too. And when the package is intercepted, it is the passenger that goes to jail.

      This is one reason why I try to never check-in luggage. Of course, I seldom fly anymore.

      http://www.aolnews.com/2011/04/28/baggage-handlers-arrested-in-drug-smuggling-bust-at-detroit-airp/

      http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1992-04-24/news/9204240104_1_baggage-handlers-orlando-international-airport-luggage

      http://www.gadling.com/2008/04/22/madrid-airport-luggage-handlers-smuggle-17-kilos-of-cocaine-into/

      etc. etc. etc...

    16. Re:Security FAIL by Culture20 · · Score: 0

      They can also stuff items into people's bags for smuggling. Call up so-and-so at the destination, have them tail and rob the unknowing mule. "Were your bags ever out of your presence?" "Yeah, that TSA agent over there just rifled through them while you were distracting me with a handjob."

    17. Re:Security FAIL by mabhatter654 · · Score: 2

      They definitely shouldn't be able to enter or leave the secure area with anything other than an ID badge. That is the parent's point.. If they can walk away from their station and post a stolen item to eBay, what can they TAKE BACK?

      Remember, 9/11 used boxcutters that were not even illegal, left on food carts... This act completely invalidates the security zone. It IS a TERRORIST SYMPATHATIC act. Just like raising your voice because you can't boob milk!

    18. Re:Security FAIL by rlanctot · · Score: 1

      If they can take something out without getting caught, they could be putting something in. Who would bother with suicide bombs if they can slip it into the luggage?

      You know, it occues to one that perhaps there should be strip searches and close patdowns of the TSA employees. Perhaps colonoscopies? With terrorists smuggling bombs inside their bellies, who KNOWS what a rogue TSA agent might hide up there. A thorough search is required to keep our nations safe. You agree, of course.

    19. Re:Security FAIL by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Sounds fine to me. But only if they touch my junk, then I get to be the one cutting, sawing and ramming the endoscope into them.

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    20. Re:Security FAIL by erroneus · · Score: 3, Informative

      That's a huge lie. HUGE lie.

      TSA screeners are screened themselves upon entering a secure area each and every time. Now, if they eat their meals within the airport (which is likely to be considered a secure area) they can return to work unmolested. But if they go outside, they have to get screened again.

    21. Re:Security FAIL by martin-boundary · · Score: 1

      No, you can't. As a passenger, you have to be allowed into the country by customs agents (-- that's the security screening right there). Usually this also involves some kind of explicit or implied Visa.

    22. Re:Security FAIL by toriver · · Score: 1

      Yes, a .45 handled by a trigger-happy drunk redneck can do wonders to a pressurized cabin. Who needs terrorists?

    23. Re:Security FAIL by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      He's right. You are wrong. As an employee, it's as easy to get stuff in as out. So the planted bomb scenario (or, what's made it into movies countless times, an employee planting weapons or such) is easy.

      Sadly, you guess that just guessing could be wrong and present your guess as a more reliable opinion than the guess you are responding to. Whatever cognitive dissonance you run through to post your guess as a better guess when you have nothing any better to add than "my guess is that you are guessing" seems to be quite the epitome of hypocrisy.

    24. Re:Security FAIL by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      I'm assuming that you know that there are rounds designed to be fired on a plane. Larger calibers are preferred, because it's the pressure at the point of impact that can damage the superstructure of the aircraft, so you want a low velocity wide round. They're calibrated to be just fast enough to penetrate bone (or, in some cases, just soft tissue) but not to penetrate the airframe. Even with the lowest velocity ones, it's hard to hijack a plane when you've got blood pouring from your stomach...

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    25. Re:Security FAIL by Rockin'Robert · · Score: 1

      RE: !If they can take something out without getting caught, they could be putting something in." EXACTLY! That is why the appeal in the Lockerbie case was not heard and Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi (who denied involvement throughout) was offered compassionate leave to go home for dropping said appeal.

    26. Re:Security FAIL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. The more hands this goes through, the more likely someone is going to get paid to drop something off. If the person is hard up for money to steal and sell and the TSA employee is even being monitored for that, they aren't going to be monitored for dropping off something in someone's luggage.

      It doesn't even have to be necessarily bad for the airplane, but just he passenger. Want to set someone up? With the drug laws and child porn laws in this country, it's one hell of an easy setup.

    27. Re:Security FAIL by The+Archon+V2.0 · · Score: 1

      Considering this guy was walking out every night with an average of $400 worth of electronics that he didn't walk in with, it's obvious as hell no one's paying attention to them as they work or when they leave....

    28. Re:Security FAIL by whoever57 · · Score: 1
      Actually, you are the liar. Let me quote from TSA procedures:

      Where the FSD has waived TSO rescreening, TSOs who leave the screening checkpoint area and are completely out of sight for rest breaks, lunch, etc. need not be rescreened upon returning to the screening checkpoint after presenting their TSA employee ID or local airport ID for review by a TSO or designated TSA representative. However, where the FSD has elected to waive TSO rescreening, the FSD must implement random screening of TSOs returning from breaks.

      http://www.papersplease.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/tsa_screening_mgmt_sop.pdf

      See, nothing about them remaining within a secure area. So, perhaps where you work, the FSD had not elected to waive rescreening, but I spoke to a TSA screener in DFW airport and he told me that they were only screened at the start of their shifts. In fact, I got the impression that the screening of TSA agents either did not really happen, or wasn't thorough.

      So, let's see, I have a citation, versus you, an anonymous person who claims to be a former TSA screener (and given the contempt such people are held in, even if you were a screener, why should anyone believe you?).

      Who is the liar?

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  7. Think of how many terrorists he stopped though! by jergason · · Score: 3, Funny

    Think of how many terrorists he stopped though!

    1. Re:Think of how many terrorists he stopped though! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      ... and how many of them he sold on eBay too.

    2. Re:Think of how many terrorists he stopped though! by ae1294 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Think of how many terrorists he stopped though!

      Yeah those apple lovers piss me off too!

    3. Re:Think of how many terrorists he stopped though! by MikeBabcock · · Score: 2

      Selling those bombs on ebay saved lives of passengers on-board the plane :)

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    4. Re:Think of how many terrorists he stopped though! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      rofl :P Terrorists for sale!

    5. Re:Think of how many terrorists he stopped though! by SnarfQuest · · Score: 1

      Or how many terrorist plots he foiled ... by selling their bombs on ebay.

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  8. Pretent to be TSA by ZombieBraintrust · · Score: 1

    So all anyone has to do to get past secuirty at an airport is pretent to be a TSA agent.

  9. Funny That by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    A few years back I had a suitcase stolen in Florida on Continental airlines. I was loaded down with vintage real to real tapes and audio gear (modern and old). The real to real tapes and some of the audio gear belonged to my grandfather, which I was restoring for the family. I never did get it back and Continental declined my claim. I hope he lands in PIMA Federal Prison, some of the items I will never be able to recover.

    1. Re:Funny That by rsborg · · Score: 1

      A few years back I had a suitcase stolen in Florida on Continental airlines. I was loaded down with vintage real to real tapes and audio gear (modern and old). The real to real tapes and some of the audio gear belonged to my grandfather, which I was restoring for the family. I never did get it back and Continental declined my claim. I hope he lands in PIMA Federal Prison, some of the items I will never be able to recover.

      When it absolutely must get there, don't take it on the plane. It's not safe anymore. Instead, have it shipped there (using appropriate padding as "tossers" will knock your box around)... of course, this is a real PITA if you're traveling internationally.

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    2. Re:Funny That by Elbereth · · Score: 1

      I get this hilarious picture in my head, of someone protesting, "These tapes are real! I need them to restore my grandfather!", as he's carted away by the men in white.

    3. Re:Funny That by todrules · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually, if you really want it to get there, buy a starter pistol and pack it in the suitcase. Then, you have to declare that you have a firearm when you check it. Believe me, that suitcase will have tons of security. Nobody will steal anything from there. Also, since it's a starter pistol and not a real pistol, you don't have to worry about the gun laws in the state you are traveling to.

    4. Re:Funny That by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 1

      I would not bring anything on an airplane that I would not be ok with losing. its modern air travel, sadly (not that I've travelled much since the gropers took over).

      on the photography forums, people are advised to ship their gear. too risky to bring expensive slr gear on a plane, checked or not.

      so, consider the cost of ups/fedex/etc as a new hidden cost of air travel. your person goes one way, your important stuff goes via a DIFFERENT carrier.

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    5. Re:Funny That by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It probably wasn't funny to the poster, but now that you mention it!:-{)! Too bad he forgot they were reel to reel tapes!

    6. Re:Funny That by Ambvai · · Score: 1

      Agreed. My avenue of choice for domestic transport is a bit more expensive but also quite safe: find somebody you trust and just pay them to drive it. One of my relatives tapped me for this a few years back when I was unemployed for $2000, cross-country. It was basically a free roadtrip. (I was ferrying enough cash for a decent house in Mt Vernon region.)

    7. Re:Funny That by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 1

      Believe me, that suitcase will have tons of security.

      Think again:
      http://patterico.com/2007/10/29/firearms-disappearing-from-airport-luggage/

    8. Re:Funny That by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 4, Funny

      Actually, if you really want it to get there, buy a starter pistol and pack it in the suitcase.

      Don't try to commit suicide with it, though. It'll get you detention.

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    9. Re:Funny That by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Even an air pistol/rifle can work. They are not allowed to open the case once it has been inspected/verified unloaded under your supervision. (No TSA locks for gun cases.)

    10. Re:Funny That by John+Bresnahan · · Score: 1
      You're lucky you weren't stopped by the police with that much cash. It is now common practice for the police to assume that anyone carrying a large amount of cash must be engaged in some illegal activity and impound that money.

      It is then up to you to prove your innocence and to sue the government to get your money back.

  10. What else did he sell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe he sold a bunch of bombs, too.

  11. If only... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    They were as good at security as they were at stealing!

  12. Disguise by ravenscar · · Score: 1

    Just disguise your electronics to look like a bomb. That'll ensure they make it safely to their destination. /joke

  13. How many get away with it? by damn_registrars · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My luggage gets searched all the time. I'm pretty sure they've never taken anything - at least not anything I've ever missed - from my luggage. But really, if something was taken I wouldn't have any recourse for it. Who would you report it to? How would you prove it was there to begin with? Being as you release your checked bags before you even go through security, and they pass through multiple hands before they even get on to your plane, there is a chain of inaccountability. Even if you did something obscure but unique to identify your property you still wouldn't be able to prove who took it by the time it showed up on the black market.

    And of course, if you're like me and you don't live near a hub airport - therefore you need to take connections all the time - you and your luggage go through that many more sets of gates and hands before getting to your destination.

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    Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
    1. Re:How many get away with it? by GNUman · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I once had a Sony PSP and an iPod stolen from my baggage on a Continental Airlines flight going out from Newark Airport (Yes, I should've taken them in my carry on, I had no space left and was overly trusting).

      I complained to Continental Airlines and they basically said "Tough luck, we don't go through your baggage, it's the TSA. Take it up with them." They added "We do recommend our passengers to avoid putting any electronics in their baggage".

      TSA has a form you can fill to file a complaint. It includes sending the receipts of your stolen objects and witnesses that confirm you did have them in your baggage and witnesses that confirm they were not there when you arrived. Then they supposedly "start an investigation".

      I had lost the receipts of my items and being outside the US it was difficult to go to the store and try to get a copy. So I never submitted the papers. I did learn my lesson. Never put electronics in your baggage, it will come up in scans and become an excuse for someone to open it.

    2. Re:How many get away with it? by vux984 · · Score: 1

      Even if you did something obscure but unique

      Hmmm... I suggest exploding dye packs. And when the blue painted guy has you hauled off the plane as a potential terrorist you can have him arrested for attempted theft.

      Ok... Its not a perfect plan... but it would at least raise question why my valuable X got more than Y feet from my suitcase.

    3. Re:How many get away with it? by MikeBabcock · · Score: 1

      If you're going to use exploding dye packs, you may as well make them lethal, because the guy who detects the "bomb-like" device in your luggage is going to report you.

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      - Michael T. Babcock (Yes, I blog)
    4. Re:How many get away with it? by jittles · · Score: 1

      Its not just electronics they are after. I had my razor blades stolen from my suitcase at LHR or CDG. They were there when I got to Paris, gone when I got to London. They were gillete Mach 3 blades, which were about 20 pounds when I got to London. I ended up buying cheapies because the exchange rate was so bad at the time, I couldn't bring my self to buy replacements.

    5. Re:How many get away with it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The TSA damaged one of my goods in my bag when they inspected it. The form was rather easy to fill out and I got a check pretty quickly. I mean it was only a $55 claim, so they didn't question it. Still, I was pleasantly surprised at the efficiency of that whole process.

      Oh yea, now I remember what it was. They cut all 5 of our TSA approved locks on our bags. Idiots.

    6. Re:How many get away with it? by stephanruby · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You should have submitted the papers anyway. It doesn't matter if they're properly filled out, or not. It's not like they were going to reimburse you anyway. You fill out the papers, so that at least, your incident gets recorded in their statistics.

      Often times, authorities try to dissuade you from filling out paperwork, bad statistics make their bosses look bad, but then again, if no incident is ever recorded or filed, it's as if your incident never even officially occurred.

    7. Re:How many get away with it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had my cell phone charger go missing during a search ... it took nearly 6 months, but I eventually got a cheque for like $40.
      Pain in the A$$, but eventually I was compensated.

      That was probably about 8 years back.

    8. Re:How many get away with it? by chihowa · · Score: 2

      Contact the police (the real police, not the TSA goons) that are located at the airport. Skip the TSA forms altogether and file a police report.

      My wife had a laptop stolen from her bag (why did she pack a laptop in check baggage!?!?). We reported it to the local police who had jurisdiction over the airport and a detective was extremely interested and helpful. The information we provided helped to crack a little group of TSA agents at the airport who had been doing this for several weeks. They never found the laptop (it had been sold immediately), though.

      Anyway, contact the local police. If this happens once at the airport, it probably happens several times and they'd love to close all of those cases.

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      If you want a vision of the future, imagine a youtube comments section scrolling - forever.
    9. Re:How many get away with it? by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

      Anyway, contact the local police. If this happens once at the airport, it probably happens several times and they'd love to close all of those cases.

      I'll start by saying it has never happened to me, personally. I apologize if I wrote my message in a way that implied it had, I tried to make it clear it had not.

      That said, if it were to happen to me, I would have an exceedingly hard time figuring out where it had happened. More than 90% of my flights involve a connection somewhere. While your bags are not usually screened at your arrival airport, they could well be screened at a hub airport - in fact I'm rather certain I've received TSA inspection letters from hub airports in the past. Therefore with multiple screeners coming in to play, if I was missing something it would be very difficult to determine when and where that item went missing.

      And of course, as you pointed out in your case, the item never came back. I suspect the same would happen to me, which would deincentivize me from reporting the situation. I'm all for punishing criminals and all, but if there is no chance of seeing my item back I'm not going to be that interested in pursuing the crime, either.

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      Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
    10. Re:How many get away with it? by GeddyT · · Score: 1

      I flew from Seatac to San Jose for the MotoGP races in 2007, I believe it was. Was myself and my wife and another couple we're friends with. I think this was early days of mandatory TSA locks (or risk having your own lock cut). So we dutifully complied, bought TSA locks, and locked our luggage up. Ashamed to admit that this actually made us feel MORE secure that our luggage would be safe. Should have known better. We arrived at our destination and my friend's wife opened her checked bag to look for her sunglasses. They were gone. Expensive Ray Bans. Also gone was her iPod, her camera, and a necklace/earrings set of glass jewelry they got in Venice on their honeymoon. We couldn't believe it! The lock was intact, so the thief could have only been the TSA screener that searched our bags. Luckily I carried my laptop and camera equipment on the plane with me (at the time I thought I was being paranoid, but I guess not!). She called the airline right away. They essentially told her she was shit out of luck. It was the TSA that stole her stuff, after all. She asked why the airline didn't have some kind of supervision in place to make sure this kind of thing didn't happen. She pointed out that it is ridiculous to pay good money to an airline and they can't even protect their customers from being robbed blind. They didn't seem to care. Not their problem. So she got someone from the TSA on the phone. They pretty much told her to frig off as well. How could she prove that those things had been in her bag? It's ridiculous. I've only flown twice since then. One of them I really had no choice--it's a long boat ride to Italy. At least I was able to find a similar set of glass jewelry in Venice for my friends. Since the whole wacky molestation theater broke out, I haven't flown at all. I'm going to make it my goal to see to it that I don't until that mess is cleaned up. We shouldn't have to be molested by or stolen from by our own government agents to travel. I wish more people would get this and avoid air travel. If you have to, though, I hope our experience on that flight is a good lesson for you: DO NOT check anything valuable. There's a fair enough probability you will be robbed.

    11. Re:How many get away with it? by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

      There are a few things that I always carry on to the plane with me. My laptop is one, and my medications are another. Of course my phone and chargers for phone and laptop are always with me as well. My suitcase is primarily for clothing, and I don't wear anything expensive so if they stole my shirts and underwear, I'd laugh at them.

      But really I figured people would be wise enough in general to not put valuable items in checked bags. Even before the TSA existed you were still trusting the baggage handlers not to go through your stuff, there is nothing that prevented baggage handlers from taking or destroying your stuff before.

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      Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
    12. Re:How many get away with it? by vux984 · · Score: 1

      Hence my noting that the blue painted man will have you hauled off the plane as a potential terrorist. And that the plan wasn't perfect.

    13. Re:How many get away with it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      TSA employees are thieves. Not all but certainly some are. Low wage + flawed background checks + open opportunity = crime.

    14. Re:How many get away with it? by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      Sadly, my experience was worse than yours. While flying back from Las Vegas back in 2002, our digital camera was stolen from our backpack. (I was in the restroom and my wife was distracted calling her father.) We didn't realize it was gone until we got back home but knew immediately where/when it would have been taken. We called the police, told them all of the details, and were told to fill out a police report. However, we were also informed that they wouldn't really put any effort into looking into it and the police report was more for our insurance than anything.

      Our insurance got us a nice, new digital camera. Nicer than my old one. Still, I lost over 100 vacation photos thanks to my old camera being stolen. I now pack filled up memory cards separate from the camera. Let the thieves take the camera. That can be replaced. I just want to keep my photos.

      --
      My sci-fi novel, Ghost Thief, is now available from Amazon.com.
  14. Over the past six months by Arancaytar · · Score: 4, Funny

    Over the past six months, Santiago-Serrano told authorities he stole $50,000 worth of computers,

    If he's been confessing for that long, you'd think they'd have stopped him before!

    (Sponsored by the grammar police)

    1. Re:Over the past six months by sco08y · · Score: 1

      Over the past six months, Santiago-Serrano told authorities he stole $50,000 worth of computers,

      If he's been confessing for that long, you'd think they'd have stopped him before!

      (Sponsored by the grammar police)

      That's not likely; ambiguities are handled by the semantics police.

    2. Re:Over the past six months by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought those guys were a subdivision.

    3. Re:Over the past six months by MikeBabcock · · Score: 0

      You might want to check your English books again.

      For the last six months and over the last six months have very different meanings.

      The one you criticized was in fact the correct usage.

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      - Michael T. Babcock (Yes, I blog)
    4. Re:Over the past six months by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bzzt... wrong. Nice try. If he had another comma between authorities and he, then the meaning would be correct.

    5. Re:Over the past six months by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For the last six months and over the last six months have very different meanings

      Yes, and what was he doing "over the last six months"?

      "[He] told authorities"

      Oh!

    6. Re:Over the past six months by rbayer · · Score: 1

      You might want to check your English books again.

      For the last six months and over the last six months have very different meanings.

      The one you criticized was in fact the correct usage.

      "Over" is certainly the correct word, but the phrase is in the wrong place in the sentence. As written, "over the past six months" modifies the main verb of the sentence, in this case "told." A better phrasing would be "Santiago-Serrano told authorities he stole $50,000 worth of computers over the past six months".

    7. Re:Over the past six months by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Take this mallet. I'll hold the fencepost, and when I nod my head, hit it.

      You're a fucking idiot, babycock.

    8. Re:Over the past six months by cthulhu11 · · Score: 1

      Thank you for not making me the only one to see this.

    9. Re:Over the past six months by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      To be fair, the rest of us only missed it because we don't actually read the summary...

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      I am TheRaven on Soylent News
  15. What about... by Haedrian · · Score: 1

    How many bombs, IEDs and other dangerous items did he confiscate and sell online?

    I'm sure there was a very good reason why he was touching people's luggage.

  16. TSA: taking freedom so terrorists don't have to by mykos · · Score: 5, Funny

    Being molested, xrayed, shown naked on a screen, and robbed is a small price to pay to keep terrorists from taking away my freedom!

    1. Re:TSA: taking freedom so terrorists don't have to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Being molested, xrayed, shown naked on a screen, and robbed is a small price to pay to keep terrorists from taking away my freedom!

      This has been scored "Funny" It should be scored "Insightful"!!!

    2. Re:TSA: taking freedom so terrorists don't have to by SnarfQuest · · Score: 1

      Being molested, xrayed, shown naked on a screen, and robbed is a small price to pay to keep terrorists from taking away my freedom!

      And to have your electronics taken away must be a bonus.

      --
      Who would win this election: Andrew Weiner vs Andrew Weiner's weiner.
    3. Re:TSA: taking freedom so terrorists don't have to by sconeu · · Score: 1

      Hey. It's the price we pay to keep ourselves safe from authoritarian fanatics!!!
      (See sig)

      --
      General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.
    4. Re:TSA: taking freedom so terrorists don't have to by tqk · · Score: 1

      ... and robbed is a small price ...

      And to have your electronics taken away must be a bonus.

      So, you don't ... Nah, too easy.

      --
      "Tongue tied and twisted, just an Earth bound misfit ..." -- Pink Floyd.
    5. Re:TSA: taking freedom so terrorists don't have to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Being molested, xrayed, shown naked on a screen, and robbed is a small price to pay to keep terrorists from taking away my iPod!

      FTFY

  17. Latino disease by c-fivk · · Score: 0

    And I thought that only happened in Argentina...

  18. Did you really figure by Nethemas+the+Great · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Dressing them in a uniform and giving them arrest-authority would suddenly make a poorly educated, under-class person magically transform into an upstanding middle-class person with a passion for doing their job to the best of their abilities?

    --
    Two of my imaginary friends reproduced once ... with negative results.
    1. Re:Did you really figure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They (the TSA) don't have arrest authority. (The police officer who is present at every checkpoint, though, does).

    2. Re:Did you really figure by bmo · · Score: 1

      Did you really suggest that education and money makes you honest?

      Really?

      HAVE YOU FUCKING LOOKED AROUND YOU?

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      BMO - Real thieves wear suits.

    3. Re:Did you really figure by Nethemas+the+Great · · Score: 1

      I don't believe you caught the "middle-class" part. Obviously you'll find outliers regardless of where you go on the scales. The media also tends to distort perspectives when it comes to the wealthy, educated, elite. Again outliers, but in this case the natural desire for people to "eat the rich".

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      Two of my imaginary friends reproduced once ... with negative results.
    4. Re:Did you really figure by bmo · · Score: 0

      >I don't believe you caught the "middle-class" part

      I don't believe that you caught my point.

      There are thieves in every class. The book keeper down the street might be embezzling. It happens. There was an infamous case here where such a thing happened and a woman stole nearly a third of every dollar that came in, and spent it on lavish parties and gambling and such.

      How about you suck on a cock, you class warrior?

      Fuck you.

      --
      BMO

    5. Re:Did you really figure by Nethemas+the+Great · · Score: 1
      TSA arrest authority derives from 49 USC 44903(d)(2):

      [The] Secretary of Transportation may authorize an individual who carries out air transportation security duties– (2) to make arrests without warrant for an offense against the United States committed in the presence of the individual or for a felony under the laws of the United States, if the individual reasonably believes the individual to be arrested has committed or is committing a felony.

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    6. Re:Did you really figure by Nethemas+the+Great · · Score: 2

      Still missing it... When people speak in generalities they are almost always granting the possibility of outliers though I specifically spelled that out for you. Your example was just such a thing. Your tone and communication skills quite obviously place your class.

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      Two of my imaginary friends reproduced once ... with negative results.
    7. Re:Did you really figure by bmo · · Score: 1

      You're disgusting.

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      BMO

    8. Re:Did you really figure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hope you're trolling, or you'll be one of the first against the fucking wall - and deservedly so.

  19. How to avoid the TSA thieves by kwiqsilver · · Score: 5, Interesting
    If you must fly, here's what to do:
    • Buy a hard plastic or metal suitcase with locks.
    • Buy a pistol, if you don't have one already. (A starter pistol, which has no legal restrictions on ownership or purchase in any state, works just as well).
    • Put your pistol in the suitcase, check-in at the counter, and tell the airline rep you have a firearm to declare.
    • Fill out the card that says your firearm is unloaded, put it in your suitcase, and lock it (with real locks, not TSA-approved ones), while the airline rep watches.
    • Walk down to the TSA screener with the airline rep, and hand your bag over.
    • The TSA screener will scan your bag while you wait. If there's a need to open it, the screener will have you open it, and will look through the bag while you watch.

    It is illegal for them to open your bag without you being present, if you have a firearm declared. (I guess the government doesn't trust the TSA near guns...if only they'd expand that mistrust to all the federal alphabet soup criminals).

    I discovered this accidentally, because I usually take at least one pistol whenever I fly anywhere, and have been using it ever since. If I'm going some place anti-gun, like Chicago or CA, I take a firearm component, like a barrel, which still has to be checked the same way, but can't get me into trouble on the trip.

    1. Re:How to avoid the TSA thieves by swb · · Score: 1

      Yes! Traveling with a firearm is like getting extra special first class check-in.

      I love how they treat you like somebody special; I think in some airports they assume you're a cop.

    2. Re:How to avoid the TSA thieves by kwiqsilver · · Score: 4, Informative

      They tend to treat me like I'm crazy. But then, I don't look anything like a cop; I look like a slacker software engineer.

      A few years ago at Sea-Tac, I had an Alaska rep tell me I couldn't check in a firearm. We had to call her boss over. Fortunately he was familiar with the form, and knew what to do. And the first rep was very apologetic and friendly after. And the best part is: nobody stole the external HDD out of my suitcase!

      I also recommend printing out a copy of the TSA page on flying with firearms, in case you get somebody who doesn't have a clue.

    3. Re:How to avoid the TSA thieves by nedlohs · · Score: 1

      It is illegal for them to open your bag without you being present, if you have a firearm declared.

      I'm pretty sure it is illegal for them to steal the stuff you have in bag too, yet that doesn't seem to help.

      * Yes, yes. It increases their risk significantly and hence they'll pick a different bag.

    4. Re:How to avoid the TSA thieves by macshit · · Score: 4, Informative

      When I fly out of Narita, they seem to do the baggage exam before checkin, which seems a much better system.

      Baggage is x-rayed upon entering the checkin area, and if they're suspicious, they pull you aside to a table and have you open the suitcase and go through it. The examiner just watches, giving directions as needed (indeed, it's very clear they're under orders not to touch anything), and asks you to explain anything unusual. It works very well, and gives real peace of mind.

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      We live, as we dream -- alone....
    5. Re:How to avoid the TSA thieves by Obfuscant · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I also recommend printing out a copy of the TSA page on flying with firearms, in case you get somebody who doesn't have a clue.

      Fantastic. I think everyone who flies should carry one round of ammunition in an original package every time they fly. The rule that TSA will inspect the package at the ticket counter will cause a massive breakdown in the TSA system, as all TSA operatives will be up at the ticket counter inspecting one round of ammunition each and nobody will be available to search bags and steal stuff. It will also require a personal escort to the CTX machines so that the passenger doesn't do anything to the now-searched baggage.

      Or, the checkin process will get so backed up that nobody will be able to fly anywhere.

    6. Re:How to avoid the TSA thieves by AbrasiveCat · · Score: 1

      I am a bit surprised by an Alaska rep in Seattle not knowing how to handle a gun. I know more than a few folk that take theirs to Alaska to hunt, and AB carries a lot of then north.

    7. Re:How to avoid the TSA thieves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Every time I've flown with guns, there was a special screening section, most recently it was the oversized luggage area (of course, I had a large Pelican case that time). I was asked why, if I had the big case, I had a small case with one handgun in it in my suitcase, but they understood when I said I like to be able to lock my luggage :-) (yes, you use NON-TSA compliant locks when transporting firearms, by law, and since they've already screened your luggage, they have a lot more restrictions on whether they can open it again).

    8. Re:How to avoid the TSA thieves by Jstlook · · Score: 1

      Everyone has a first day on the job, and Seattle is less republican than the rest of the state. Mind you, republican has little to do with being firearm-aware.

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      ---jstlook ---For that is the way of Elves, for they say both yes AND no, and mean every word of it. --- J.R.R.T.
    9. Re:How to avoid the TSA thieves by blindseer · · Score: 1

      (yes, you use NON-TSA compliant locks when transporting firearms, by law, and since they've already screened your luggage, they have a lot more restrictions on whether they can open it again).

      Not only CAN you use a non-TSA lock when flying with a firearm but you MUST lock your firearm with a lock that only you have the key to open. The TSA does not trust their own handlers to not steal firearms. The airlines do not trust their baggage handlers to not steal firearms. Any attempt to open that luggage without your knowledge is a federal felony.

      There is one problem with this plan. The rules require that there be no markings on the bag to indicate the presence of the firearm. The TSA routinely cuts the locks to baggage that they cannot open with a TSA master key. A bag with a firearm can be cut open despite the severe penalties for doing so. This has happened. This will continue to be a problem so long as bolt cutters are standard equipment for TSA baggage screeners.

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      I am armed because I am free. I am free because I am armed.
    10. Re:How to avoid the TSA thieves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you must fly, here's what to do:

      Don't check in baggage

    11. Re:How to avoid the TSA thieves by erroneus · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That's an excellent point, actually. I knew this but it never actually occurred to me that the fact can be utilized in this way. (I wanted to say "methodized" but I'm not sure that's a work which is real enough... I like the word though.) Yes, as a former TSA screener operating out of Texas, I have a few interesting gun stories... at least they were interesting to me at the time. Most of them stem from people with CHLs who FORGOT they brought their pistols with them (all of them women) and decided to check their carry-on with the pistol in the bag... usually loaded.

      But when people did check their firearms properly, they did get the red carpet treatment. Part of the reason for this is the mentality that they are wannabe cops. Some actually call themselves "federal agents." It's sick and stupid but also quite true.

      Personally, I have always felt that carrying the gear with you was the best way to go, but this is giving me cause to reconsider.

      As for the security of your things, I still can't say that I have ever witnessed a condition which enabled people to steal things so easily as described in the article. At my airport, there were eyes pretty much everywhere and co-workers were likely to snitch on one another. (Proof positive that they aren't cops right?)

      But with that said, there was a huge bust as my airport that occurred while I was there which involved baggage handlers. They were stealing tool boxes, golf clubs and rummaging through TSA screened luggage after the TSA passed them on. So if the airline says "don't look at us, look to the TSA" that's not the full truth of the matter.

      I'm not here to defend the TSA or its screeners, but I would like to remind people that the TSA isn't a single hive mind of trained professionals. They are a bunch of people from different walks of life but most of which are the same [types] of people who might serve you at a burger restaurant. And the rule for dealing with restaurant people is pretty much the same as dealing with the TSA -- treat them with respect and kindness as you are being served or else you could end up with results you don't care for. But when the service is done, feel free to express your opinions and views.

    12. Re:How to avoid the TSA thieves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good point, I should take my Tiberius Arms Tac-8 next time I fly, and declare it. Not a firearm, but a paintball gun. Police actually use em for pepperballs. Thing looks dead on for a real pistol, just a bit larger for .68 cal projectiles to be shot through. Figure that should get me the same treatment without the need to buy anything. Love how the TSA site uses one of the most expensive paintball guns on their about paintball equipment page XD

    13. Re:How to avoid the TSA thieves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They are a bunch of people from different walks of life but most of which are the same [types] of people who might serve you at a burger restaurant. And the rule for dealing with restaurant people is pretty much the same as dealing with the TSA -- treat them with respect and kindness as you are being served or else you could end up with results you don't care for. But when the service is done, feel free to express your opinions and views.

      And that's the problem. Like police, the TSA should be held to much higher standard than regular people. With great power comes great responsibility.

    14. Re:How to avoid the TSA thieves by swb · · Score: 1

      I think there's generally poor training for firearms rules. I also carry the latest TSA regs AND the airline's web page on firearms (laminated for durability).

      About the 'worst' incident I had was at the Bullhead City, AZ/Laughlin, NV airport. I think the airport is technically in AZ, and both airline ticket agents said I could not lock my weapons case with my own lock. I had to get a supervisor and show them the TSA and airline regulations and they quickly acceded.

      They also had a Mojave County Deputy come over and 'inspect' my guns to see if they were loaded, despite being fitted with trigger locks AND cable locks so as to be rendered totally nonusable and nonfirable.

      Strangely, at Phoenix Sky Harbor airport, TSA doesn't even bother opening the case. They just run it through X-ray. I use aluminum hard-sided gun cases and I don't get how they can see anything.

    15. Re:How to avoid the TSA thieves by Loundry · · Score: 3, Funny

      But when the service is done, feel free to express your opinions and views..

      My rapist said the same thing to me.

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      I don't make the rules. I just make fun of them.
    16. Re:How to avoid the TSA thieves by green1 · · Score: 1

      I can't even get them to open my carry-on in my presence, let alone my checked luggage.

      The only reason I have ever found for opening and inspecting your luggage without you present is to encourage theft. There is simply no other excuse.

    17. Re:How to avoid the TSA thieves by ahodgson · · Score: 1

      treat them with respect and kindness as you are being served

      My restaurant servers almost never try to grope my genitals. And they have never forced my 90 year old grandmother to take off her adult diaper in order to be served.

      Fuck the TSA.

    18. Re:How to avoid the TSA thieves by kwiqsilver · · Score: 1

      In my experience, the TSA guy has always slapped a sticker on my bag that says it has been searched (one of those shiny hologram TSA logo ones).

    19. Re:How to avoid the TSA thieves by kwiqsilver · · Score: 2

      My rapist said the same thing to me.

      Was your rapist wearing a blue polyester shirt with a sewn-own badge with blue rubber gloves, and hanging out at the airport? Mine was.

    20. Re:How to avoid the TSA thieves by ethan0 · · Score: 1

      And the rule for dealing with restaurant people is pretty much the same as dealing with the TSA -- treat them with respect and kindness as you are being served or else you could end up with results you don't care for.

      Getting results I don't care for is a given, at this point. Respect and kindness is right out; the TSA doesn't even know what those words mean, looking at their behavior towards me as a traveler. I have the choice of having a naked picture taken of me with a machine that at best (if we assume it's being operated safely and correctly by the untrained goons) will only very slightly increase my cancer risk; or having my genitals groped.

      These are representatives of an organization which I truly hate. As its representative, any TSA agent gets personally addressed with as much of that hatred as I am capable of expressing while I have to deal with them.

    21. Re:How to avoid the TSA thieves by blindseer · · Score: 1

      In my experience, the TSA guy has always slapped a sticker on my bag that says it has been searched (one of those shiny hologram TSA logo ones).

      Yes, and an honest TSA agent will do so. The problem lies with opening the baggage in your absence if there is a firearm inside as this is a federal felony. The TSA does not always know which bags have a firearm in them since their own rules dictate that baggage is to not have any external marking to indicate a firearm is inside. All bags with a firearm in them must have a non-TSA approved lock. Not all bags with a non-TSA approved lock have a firearm in them. If there is a TSA approved lock on it then there is not a firearm inside.

      If the TSA requires firearms to be locked with a non-TSA lock then they should assume that every bag with a non-TSA lock has a firearm and they should not cut open the bag. If the TSA requires a TSA approved lock for all baggage that does NOT contain a firearm then what they have done is create a de jure marking on the exterior of the baggage that a firearm is inside. Their own rules require that there be no such external markings.

      What happens if a dishonest TSA agent opens a bag? Is there still a sticker applied with the TSA logo? Will all the contents still remain? What if a firearm happens to be inside? Will it still be there when the passenger gets it?

      Logic dictates to me that there should be no usage of bolt cutters to open baggage excepting some very rare instances. This is precisely because a non-TSA lock is required to secure a firearm to transport on a plane. If there is a TSA lock on the bag then a key should be used, not a bolt cutters. Until the TSA requires that all baggage secured with a non-TSA approved lock be opened only in the presence of the owner we will continue to see the TSA violate their own policies that baggage that contains a firearm to NOT be opened unless the owner is present.

      The very fact that TSA approved locks exist will give an indication to the presence or absence of a firearm in the luggage. If it has a TSA approved lock then it does not contain a firearm. Logic dictates that TSA approved lock should not even exist if strict following of their own rules are followed, that no external markings are to be present to indicate the presence of a firearm inside a bag.

      I will NEVER EVER use a TSA approved lock on my luggage. This requires the TSA to either gain my permission to open the bag, or to use a bolt cutter. A TSA approved lock allows dishonest TSA agents to open the bag without providing indications it was opened. Honest TSA agents should know better to cut a lock they cannot open with the TSA master key since there might be a firearm inside. Dishonest ones will still cut the lock but then at least there will be a very visible indication of them doing so. If I also place a firearm inside, which I plan to do if I ever fly again, then not only will there be visible indications of it being opened that will also be evidence of a felony. This means that the FBI, ATF, FAA, and probably a few other alphabet agencies will get involved. This applies even if a sticker is placed on the bag with a TSA logo.

      It seems quite logical to me on how the TSA fails in following their own rules. It seems quite logical on how they can fix the rules so that the rules no longer conflict. Just more proof that law and logic rarely meet,

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  20. Thieves Standing Around (TSA). by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
    1. Re:Thieves Standing Around (TSA). by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Beautiful. Absolultely beautiful. Saved to my HD.

  21. Why doesn't the American Media Corporation.... by sgt_doom · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...which really is the sole source of what passes for MainStreamMedia in the US, ever report that the organization which vets, or does the background checks for the TSA, is Xe Services, formerly known as Blackwater USA??? Never, never will they ever report that very crucial fact, which may be why over 55 sky marshals (the doods with the guns aboard the jetliners) have been fired, and/or convicted and jailed for everything from human trafficking, to drug smuggling, rape, etc., etc.? Blackwater OK's the crooks, so the TSA is full of crooks.

    1. Re:Why doesn't the American Media Corporation.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Its been like this since before the TSA existed...

    2. Re:Why doesn't the American Media Corporation.... by nmb3000 · · Score: 3, Informative

      ...which really is the sole source of what passes for MainStreamMedia in the US, ever report that the organization which vets, or does the background checks for the TSA, is Xe Services, formerly known as Blackwater USA??? Never, never will they ever report that very crucial fact, which may be why over 55 sky marshals (the doods with the guns aboard the jetliners) have been fired, and/or convicted and jailed for everything from human trafficking, to drug smuggling, rape, etc., etc.? Blackwater OK's the crooks, so the TSA is full of crooks.

      Interesting, but I'm curious why none of this is mentioned on either the Blackwater nor the TSA Wikipedia pages. Nothing even on the discussion pages.

      Black helicopters invading Wikipedia, or something more mundane?

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    3. Re:Why doesn't the American Media Corporation.... by c6gunner · · Score: 2, Informative

      ...which really is the sole source of what passes for MainStreamMedia in the US, ever report that the organization which vets, or does the background checks for the TSA, is Xe Services, formerly known as Blackwater USA???

      Yeah, those goddamn MainStreamMedia refuse to publish bullshit that you just pulled out of your ass! Imagine that!

      Whoever modded you "interesting" should be shot for being fatally credulous.

    4. Re:Why doesn't the American Media Corporation.... by internettoughguy · · Score: 1

      Agreed, the only connection I could find between blackwater and the TSA from a cursory Google search is this thread.

    5. Re:Why doesn't the American Media Corporation.... by kaptink · · Score: 1

      In the UK at least you cannot get an airside pass without a background check consisting of a criminal history check in all countries you have ever lived, five years employment to a one month resolution and a referee check to cover five years down to a single month resolution as well as a residency check. They are pretty darn meticulous. Perhaps the US should try harder to weed out criminals who are trusted to provide the security and screening to airline passengers? Seems like a good place for terrorists to start applying for jobs.

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    6. Re:Why doesn't the American Media Corporation.... by Joce640k · · Score: 1

      The thing you should be really worried about is why the media isn't all over the TSA in general. Groping of children by randomly recruited people? Taking pictures of them? What message is this sending to them? It's ok for people to touch you there if they wear a uniform? If it wasn't the TSA the press would be all over this...

      Even without the children there's plenty of adults who have an issue with this, rape victims, etc. The press loves stories like this but where's the outcry? Why is sexual molestation OK if it's done by government employees but nobody else? Employees who'd be flipping burgers if they weren't working there.

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    7. Re:Why doesn't the American Media Corporation.... by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      That would cost too much money. Are you some sort of pinko commie radical longhair hippie?

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    8. Re:Why doesn't the American Media Corporation.... by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      Oh, sorry, I forgot the [sarcasm] tag.

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    9. Re:Why doesn't the American Media Corporation.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Simple answer: check with the TSA to find out who does their background checks, which was what I did back in 2005. Answer: Blackwater USA.

      Who does background checks for Office of Personnel Management -- responsible for the overall civil service hires? Answer: Kroll in 2005 -- today their name and ownership has changed to Pearson Government Services, last time I checked owned by Veritas Capital.

      sgt_doom

    10. Re:Why doesn't the American Media Corporation.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/07/new-hire-for-blackwater-bill-clintons-lawyer/

      Blackwater’s rebranding continues at a torrid pace. Danger Room has learned the latest Washington greybeard hired to spruce up the image of the world’s most infamous private security firm is Jack Quinn, a top Washington lobbyist and former White House counsel to President Bill Clinton.
      Now renamed Xe and owned by an investor consortium called USTC Holdings, the company is bringing Quinn — pictured left, with Rep. Joe Crowley — onto its board as an “independent director.” He’ll focus on “governance and oversight,” keeping the company out of trouble, especially with the government. USTC Holdings’ Jason DeYonker says that Quinn’s reputation for “commitment to the highest ethical standards of conduct in both the public and private sectors” makes him a great fit.

      To be cynical about it, a man who gave legal advice to Clinton knows a whole lot about crisis management. Which is important, since Xe intends to keep providing security to U.S. diplomats in dangerous places – activities that, under its old leadership, led its guards into a shooting debacle that killed 17 Iraqi civilians in 2007.

      sgt_doom

  22. In other news by Stargoat · · Score: 1

    In other news, the TSA continues to steal your 4th Amendment rights. You know, the certain inalienable rights that millions of us have died for?

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    1. Re:In other news by MacGyver2210 · · Score: 1

      Did you die for something? I must have missed the memo...

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      If the only way you can accept an assertion is by faith, then you are conceding that it can't be taken on its own merits
    2. Re:In other news by bussdriver · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Died of old age?
      Millions of americans haven't died for their rights. WW2 and the civil war didn't even come close.

      Perhaps you were thinking of the millions America has actually killed to build and maintain its empire? Or the greater numbers of indirect killings? The two recent wars this last decade killed over a million; unsurprisingly, we don't keep count... and with poor records its difficult to prove it all (yet the number proven is still really high and the estimates have been over a million for many years now.)

    3. Re:In other news by c6gunner · · Score: 1, Funny

      Stop being such a whiny cunt.

      Oh, and stop lying, too.

    4. Re:In other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Did you die for something? I must have missed the memo...

      I've been dying for some ice cream all week, would sending a memo have helped with that?

    5. Re:In other news by tqk · · Score: 1

      You know, the certain inalienable rights that millions of us have died for?

      Did you die for something? I must have missed the memo...

      Moderators, would you please stop doing this!?! +2 for a one liner BS statement which makes no sense? Reading comprehension, anybody?!?

      Let me restate it so you'll understand it:

      ... millions of US citizens like me have died for?

      He's talking like he's a US citizen many of whom, US citizens, have died fighting for their rights? Get a fskin' brain!

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    6. Re:In other news by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 1

      Your sarcasm detector is due for it's scheduled maintenance.

    7. Re:In other news by Thing+1 · · Score: 2

      You know, I had the thought the other day that if we posted the names of the people that our country had killed, perhaps it might help motivate us to convince our country to perform fewer killings.

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    8. Re:In other news by bussdriver · · Score: 1

      The Millions of US deaths point is fact. millions haven't died protecting the USA - its not whining; these heavily nationalistic misconceptions have bad implications and need to be stopped from contributing to our problems.

      The American Empire exists. fact. Amazingly, Americans as ignorant as they are do not realize this and it takes too much effort to prove it to them 1 at a time-- they won't ever educate themselves; its too upsetting to their false beliefs. Its like each diluted one of them needs an intervention! I would argue that the "Just World Fallacy" is more common among Americans and it comes into play on this topic.

      Deaths caused by the USA for its empire is difficult to document as I mentioned with Iraq. The policy for Iraq as stated on TV and I remember seeing it, was not to invest any effort into body counts. Actually, we don't even count our own body count as honestly as in the past; lawyer games are played with the ones we do have to count so we can wrongly classify them. anyhow getting off the point. I mentioned its hard to figure the Iraq ones because of the mess involved. I've heard ok sources quoted saying we hit the million mark in the middle eastern wars years ago. Officially documented its still in the 100,000s. Indirect killings are often not counted but the civil war/unrest we unleashed is our fault. Some blame the victims... Unsurprisingly, a few people I know who do that also blame the Americans in New Orleans who died and not the government for screwing it up.

      The scope of death caused by the USA relevant in this discussion is over its whole empire building years which therefore includes all related battles and appointed dictators... such as our CIA asset Saddam to wage war with Iran...
      Native American deaths would count. Hawaiians would count. Philippineâ"American War counts; that one almost reaches a million alone. These are some direct cases.
      Sure in some cases its merely support and not direct controlling... they may have done the same number of killings anyway-- but shouldn't we get partial responsibility?? More likely they killed more because of our help or they never would have gotten to power without our support.

      One reality needs to be known-- America prospered off the backs of others around the world and if they want to continue that level of prosperity, they need to realize that we need another world war or more overt military action to continue-- you can't fix the problems by smaller factors like education. Humans can only be educated at certain rates and the world is catching up; the big advantage has faded-- you can't improve the relative advantage without knocking down the other guy. Perhaps Americans should be ignorant of these matters because probably at least 1/3 would want to attack the world.

    9. Re:In other news by c6gunner · · Score: 1

      "Fact". You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

  23. Please cite your sources by Lead+Butthead · · Score: 3, Informative

    Please cite the source of your information.

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    1. Re:Please cite your sources by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed, please cite. (I have no mod points)

    2. Re:Please cite your sources by Savantissimo · · Score: 1

      Xe, formerly known as Blackwater, provides innovative private sector solutions to U.S. Government and non-U.S. Government clients. Founded in 1997, we were initially envisioned as a basic training facility to support the needs of local and regional law enforcement personnel. Today, we are capable of providing much more. Since our inception, we have expanded this corporate vision, empowering a talented collection of seasoned professionals from a wide range of disciplines, directing them to develop cost efficient and operationally effective solutions for the U.S. Government and other clientele. The company's ability to deliver custom solutions is made possible through the integration of its four core competencies: International Training, Logistics/Mobility, Innovative Technologies, and Professional resources.

      And blowing shit the fuck up. Five core competencies. No, wait - and killing innocent bystanders. Six. Six core competencies.

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  24. wait til your guns are stolen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    do a search on how many guns are stolen from checked baggage.

  25. Consider how well (or poorly) they're paid... by Lead+Butthead · · Score: 1

    List of TSA Salary I doublt Mr Serrano, or for that matter, any of the pseudo-cop screeners are being paid at band F or above.

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    ELOI, ELOI, LAMA SABACHTHANI!?
    1. Re:Consider how well (or poorly) they're paid... by Nethemas+the+Great · · Score: 1

      D/E ($25-44K) for an ordinary TSO. They don't bother listing "Inspector - Dangerous Goods & Cargo". Probably for a reason...

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  26. Power Seller by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Does the TSA have a PowerSeller rating?

  27. lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did he happen to sell any bombs on ebay? :P

  28. For the children! by lexsird · · Score: 1

    Please, lets not forget we have to protect the children from terrorists. So what is the price of some electronic junk being stolen, or perhaps some discomfort as the TSA searches your body in comparison to the safety of the children. We should thank this thief for he will make people carry less stuff out of fear of being stolen, hence there will be less stuff to search and fewer places to hide a bomb that might hurt the children.

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  29. Tequila by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's not so much an outrage of the theft of items from baggage, it happens from time to time and sometimes it's the handlers. It's clearly wrong and clearly theft.

    What's really interesting is all the stuff being confiscated, like this politician's bottle of tequila. OK, he shouldn't have brought it on board the plane, but what's really telling is that they take it and noone knows what happens with it afterwards. Sure they will have plenty of pictures of the cheap stuff getting destroyed. But who's going to miss the small percentage actual good stuff that gets taken home and sold/given/traded with friends or acquaintances?

  30. That Bastard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He also stole my 90 year old Grandmothers adult diaper...

  31. nt by shentino · · Score: 1

    Quite frankly, I think the TSA itself should be on the hook.

    The TSA is supposed to be protecting us, and I consider it at the least grossly negligent for them to allow one of their own to pull off something like this for SIX FUCKING MONTHS without getting caught.

    They're supposed to be running background checks on these people, and besides that I wouldn't doubt that his victims have filed plenty of police reports or complaints of some sort, so the powers that be are either completely blind, or are in on it somehow.

    6 months of looting the baggage of travelers? Not a fucking accident.

  32. Liberty safely removed... by Gription · · Score: 5, Insightful

    More to the point:
    There is no valid reason that I shouldn't be able to demand that my property be inspected in my presence and then be allowed to lock it securely before it is trundled off to the baggage handlers. Even if the TSA was above reproach, baggage handlers are not a group to be blindly trusted either.

    There are events that I used to go to by air that I can't go to anymore. When you are traveling an item that a fingerprint can cause $2000 of damage to either you drive or you don't go.

    1. Re:Liberty safely removed... by Pharmboy · · Score: 1

      Not completely related, but I used to fly to Atlanta. Now I drive. At 5 hours away, it takes less time, less money and less hassle to drive. Pretty much anything under 8 hours, I'm going to drive unless there is some overriding reason otherwise, and I have driven over 8 hours a few times as well. Flying simply sucks now. I went from flying several times a year to once or twice.

      I have more sky miles than I will ever use at this point, but why use them if the experience is so bad? I would still rather drive to Atlanta than use sky miles and fly for "free".

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      Tequila: It's not just for breakfast anymore!
  33. 16 laptops - Not stolen by dosun88888 · · Score: 1

    The most laptops I ever checked through security was 16 (across 2 bags). None were stolen, though one of the displays was cracked once. When they re-packed they did it poorly hence the breakage.

    I really like the firearm idea presented elsewhere in this thread.

  34. Re:Even if you did something obscure but unique to by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Even if you did something obscure but unique to identify your property you still wouldn't be able to prove who took it by the time it showed up on the black market.

    Obscure? No, you're supposed to engrave your social security number on your personal property. I learned that when I was a kid. My SSN is on pretty much everything I own. The US Army even printed my SSN on my duffel bag so people would know it was mine.

  35. Re:Even if you did something obscure but unique to by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

    Even if you did something obscure but unique to identify your property you still wouldn't be able to prove who took it by the time it showed up on the black market.

    Obscure? No, you're supposed to engrave your social security number on your personal property. I learned that when I was a kid. My SSN is on pretty much everything I own. The US Army even printed my SSN on my duffel bag so people would know it was mine

    I hope you included your birthday, full name, mailing address, and mother's maiden name to make it easier for your items to make it home!

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  36. Really?! by shoehornjob · · Score: 1

    Why would you leave electronics in anything but carry on luggage? It seems logical that you can't trust anyone at the airport with your personal property. After Continental snuck in the 25$ fee for checked bags I'm actually considering packing light and sending it ahead via UPS. Everything having to do with air travel is one big racket and if you believe otherwise you deserve what's coming to you. In other news TSA agent gets commendation for stealing potentially hazardous personal electronics. Said the agent involved "I had to steal it. That Ipad could have been used to remotely detonate a bomb. In other news today the notorious hacker group Lulsec claims responsibility for taking down the TSA site. An Anonymous member was quoted as saying "Those punks just had to pay".

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  37. Do the math by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Its cheaper to walk to the moon than be humiliated at the airport by this heavy handed defeat all because of a handful of assholes hellbent on America's destruction.

  38. Transportation insecurity administration by maple+leaf+forever · · Score: 1

    I hope the robots take over soon, this may very well be the best example of why humans should never have power over segments of the populace. Greed is just too damn delicious for humans in power, like a hot hooker, you know it's wrong but you don't care trying it multiple times once you are addicted. In my experience it has been and always will be the people with badges (in concert with holier than thou attitudes) who are the most likely to commit a crime due to their self serving nature. Give someone REAL power and they WILL abuse it, it's simply human nature and a proven fact based on far too many historical trends (nations were formed out of corruption, hell your ancestors swam across the Atlantic to start anew without corruption!). For the uninitiated and the naysayers who believe in rosy pictures of those in power all conforming to duty and honor (like some very bad movies), honesty died with chivalry, it's all a veneer of humoring people into believing in authority because they are somehow better than you or me. The only thing anyone can do to stop this behavior is to discourage it through SEVERE punishment, FIRE him, make him pay back what he sold for profit and put him in jail for a long time. Not like any of that will actually happen but hey one can dream?

    1. Re:Transportation insecurity administration by NotSanguine · · Score: 1

      I [snip] Give someone REAL power and they WILL abuse it [snip]

      c.f. The Stanford Prison Experiment

      have a nice day

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  39. This isn't surprising or unique by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Honestly, anytime you give people making close to minimum wage a position of almost complete authority with little or no oversight and severely incompetent management, this is what happens. It's a recipe for exactly this kind of problem. As an ex-military person, I can attest the military is no better.

  40. and like roaches... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    when you find one, there's many more you didn't.

  41. I'm not the least bit surprised. by dotfile · · Score: 2

    Those cocksuckers swiped a camera from my bag several years ago. TSA pointed the finger at Continental, Continental pointed the finger at TSA. Both parties basically said "Tough shit". Baggage is only covered at $0.50 per pound -- but ANYTHING of any value is specifically excluded. So if they steal electronics, jewelry, anything other than basically clothing, it's just tough shit.

    Fuck 'em. I'd been a loyal Continental customer for years. After that incident and, shortly after that, trying in vain to find a way to actually use the many, many frequent flyer miles I had accumulated, I finally had had enough. Haven't set foot on a Continental flight nor given them a penny of revenue in several years now. Not that they cared in the slightest.

    My point when I complained about my missing shit was, if someone were willing to commit a felony for a box of Hot Tamales (the only other thing missing from my bag), what could I have put IN a bag for, say, $10K? How about $50K? Somehow these shitheads don't make me feel any safer flying.

    1. Re:I'm not the least bit surprised. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      next time, put a box of poisoned candy, ratpoison+sugar? next to your valuable stuff.
      If he steals both at least you know the mouth breather got what was coming to him.

  42. I wonder if.... by Agarath · · Score: 1

    They will have to start subjecting TSA employees to the same levels of scrutiny that they inflict upon the general public. I doubt it as there would be too many human rights complaints.

  43. Re:designer wholesale by MLease · · Score: 1

    Ironically, this is almost on-topic.

    -Mike

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  44. i wanna see a TSA comedy movie by cheekyboy · · Score: 1

    done by the lizard guys, the ones who made Super Troopers/Slammin Salmon.

    They are well suited for that, comon writers! write a script

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    1. Re:i wanna see a TSA comedy movie by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      comon writers! write a script

      Perhaps uncommon writers would do a better job?

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  45. Stealing a cam by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It reminds me of another story...

    A french person ordered a tiny spy camera from some HK store and the parcel was delivered by the post office. When he received the parcel, he was very surprised to see that the parcel had been opened and even more surprised to see a postman head on the recorded video of the cam... The postman did not understand what it was...
    http://www.lesnumeriques.com/geek-1-livreur-0-webcam-gagne-news-9009.html [in french]

    Maybe the idea is to put a spycam in your luggage...

    1. Re:Stealing a cam by John+Bresnahan · · Score: 1
      In the U.S. it is common practice for police to arrest people who record (either audio or video) them. They claim this is to protect their "right to privacy" but is often done to intimidate anyone trying to document their improper or illegal behavior.

      I'm sure the same laws can be made to apply to the TSA (or the Post Office, for that matter).

  46. From now on should it be called by bobamu · · Score: 1

    Taking Stuff Agency ?

  47. People still do that? by SilverJets · · Score: 1

    I'm more surprised that people are still putting computers and other electronics in their checked baggage than I am that a TSA agent is stealing stuff.

    Wow. Put it in your carry-on, people. The only thing in my checked bag is my clothes and if they want to steal my dirty underwear they can have at it.

  48. Re:Even if you did something obscure but unique to by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 1

    Does that mean I have to share all my belongings with the illegal immigrant who stole my SSN?

  49. Tip of the iceberg by CelticWhisper · · Score: 1

    This is far from the first or only instance of this kind of abuse happening at the hands of TSA.

    http://www.travelunderground.org/index.php?pages/tsa-abuse-master-lists/#BillFisher

    I co-founded Travel Underground as a way to track, report, and fight back against TSA violations of traveller rights. If you're at all interested we'd love to have you there to help build cases against the TSA to present to the media, Congress, anyone who'll help get the word out. Yes, this is a shameless plug for the site but I think it's a worthwhile effort.

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  50. Best experience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I had my suitcase examined at a small rural airport in Mexico (QRO). personnel were extremely courteous, asked me nicely to unlock case, examined it quickly, and were almost apologetic and thankful. Compare that JFK or even small US airports, where you can't even lock ur suitcases. I've had a camera, gps, and leather man stolen by airport personnel. Motherfuckers.

  51. In Russia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In Russia, less security theater, more real security

    It is common practice to completely wrap luggage in shrink wrap. Lots of kiosks inside the airport offer this service. All bags are x-rayed when entering the airport, even those folks just dropping passengers off. Lots of military/security guys with dogs walking around. I assume that checked baggage may be x-rayed (neutron scanned, etc) or inspected but I never saw a bag with the shrink wrapped shredded or removed. I think the shrink wrap is a much greater deterrent to the thieving baggage handler than to the security folks.

  52. Time to utilize your resources, sonny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    look it up, butthead, you do know how to use the Internet?
    -- sgt_doom

  53. Stolen Property by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As the economy has grown worse, everyone gets more and more desperate.

    If you do happen to get something stolen, I would report it to police and on a free site like http://www.stolen-property.com/