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Google: Orkut Will Co-Exist With Google+
splitenz writes "Google's other social networking site, Orkut, which has been around for about seven years and has tens of millions of users worldwide, will continue to operate alongside the new Google+ for now. However, Google is leaving its options open regarding the possibility of fusing the two through some sort of integration further down the road."
Orkut's stil a thing, huh?
If that's the case then Google+ is going to be a major failure because everyone is going to get shitspam from Brazilians who are more of a disruptive influence.
Or perhaps maybe Google will implement automatic translation on their pages.
Either way I still have Facebook that's locked up tighter than your mom's cunts and don't need more of my dopey shit floating out in the wild.
Google actually has a huge opportunity with Orkut already being a fully developed and separate network. Data liberation is great, but the real value in social networking is the connections, not just the content. Orkut could give them a testbed for a federation API that will let people network and share no matter what site they call home - and would send the message that Google wants to be the best at sharing by continuing to provide a superior experience, rather than by enticing users in and then keeping their network locked up as the service turns into another MySpace.
The Orkut is used primarily in India and South America while the new tool is targeted to Europe and North America. But I cannot see Google maintaining two separate yet identical services for very long.
"Maybe this world is another planet's hell"
Aldous Huxley
I'm Brazilian. Orkut is still very popular here, but lost some space to facebook. A reason is that orkut is FULL of low-brow content. "Orkutization" is used as a verb to define the rise of low-brow content in a given service.
There's no way in hell Google is going to migrate all this.
Every time I hear about Orkut I log-in and check if my account still exists, if there is ANYTHING in there. Usually I see the friends' profiles with outdated images and 3 year old posts.
It makes me wonder whether the other tens of millions of users are also just stale accounts or if anyone is still using the service actively.
Make all 3 separate faces to the same thing.
Google Buzz : essentially just the wall aspect of communication.
Google+ : this is the Buzz plus more detailed social interaction.
Google Orkut (possibly a new name, Google Social?) : Google+ and the more advanced social networking featuresets, such as picture uploads, applications, etc.
They badly need to do this.
They actually have a seriously good chance of going up against Facebook with this. People are slowly beginning to hate Facebook.
They only use it because it is there and their friends are there.
Every half year, Facebook break a little more of their site and remove some really good features for god knows what reason. It is turning in to white clothing and no running the longer it lives. At some point accounts are going to start getting deleted for the sake of the servers!
But I know they will screw this up. Google SUCK with co-ordination, it is their biggest weak point.
There is too little help and resources behind some projects, some projects that actually DO need a lot of resources to be pulled off well enough. Look at Wave, Wave would have been brilliant, but it wasn't a focus point, it stagnated, too many people got on it, and it wasn't optimized and turned off so many people during the testing. They also tried to do too much at once. JavaScript, as good as it is now, is still terrible when it comes to working with thousands of DOM elements. There needs to be a simpler DOM system for basic objects that don't require 50 million different attributes. There is no reason not to have it. Something like XUL.
Sorry for the little ranting.
I hope I am wrong, I really do, but considering Orkut, Buzz, Wave.. they don't exactly have a good track record when it comes to large-scale services.
Gmail has been one of the few large-scale things that lasted, simply because they offered way more than anything else did.
And possibly because of the right timing, aka, luck.
If they fail at this, they seriously need to took a long hard look at the mirror and figure out what the hell they actually want.
The whole "personal project" thing they have going doesn't seem to be working well at all.
Google could try to tinker with the interoperability of the two sites.
So people don't have to choose between orkut and google plus.
I'd like to design a solution that merges the back ends allowing the use of either front end. If possible of course, I would need to examine closer.
That sounds like a fun project actually...
I hope they try it, if not I will be disappointed.
A reason is that orkut is FULL of low-brow content. "Orkutization" is used as a verb to define the rise of low-brow content in a given service.
Can you explain what you mean by "low-brow"?
Are we talking porn? Just uninteresting garbage? Spam?
If you want news from today, you have to come back tomorrow.
I would be surprised if they not. Google+ is something that feels incomplete yet, and some of the missing bits and ways of interaction could perfectly be provided by their other services, including orkut. And if they design this well (in the "dont do evil" sense) will be able to be as much integrated with services from other parties. Won't be surprised if more bits from Wave lands there, too.
I wonder how far they could go in that interaction. And how far they will end going thanks to regulations, security/privacy concerns, abuses of the system and goverrnments influence.
Google+ is going to be a lot less cool if Brazil and India get invites before me.
What I find odd is that they haven't integrated Buzz.
Actually, what I find odd is that G+ is even *in* beta. It's basically Buzz with extra (and not entirely intuitive) privacy features, a slapdash news search system, and a chatroom loosely hung together.
A Facebook killer it isn't.
I hope I am wrong, I really do, but considering Orkut, Buzz, Wave.. they don't exactly have a good track record when it comes to large-scale services.
Yeah, look at the terrible job they did organizing teh interwebz. At least gmail isn't a large-scale operation, because I'd be sorely disappointed to find out that it sucks after all these years.
I've been meaning to delete my account for a while now.
I hope they keep it open indefinitely to keep the trash Brazilians and their kind away from the rest of the Internet.
LOL Its still in beta after 7 years LOL. And please link to the data that says they have tens of millions of user please
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