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How Increasing Cloud Reliance Affects IT Jobs

snydeq writes "Kevin Fogarty takes a look at how the rise of cloud computing will impact IT jobs, outlining which roles stand to gain prominence in the years to come, and which roles will suffer as organizations extend their commitments to the cloud. 'Ultimately the bulk of IT could look more like a projects office than the way it looks now, when most of the hands-on work is done inside. It probably won't be a total transformation, but moving into cloud, there will be more of that and less DIY.'"

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  1. Not what I signed up for by tverbeek · · Score: 2

    Great, I was hoping they'd get around to removing the last bits of enjoyment from my career before I retire. They're even ahead of schedule!

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    1. Re:Not what I signed up for by tubs · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Don't worry, in a few years a new company will come along, with a great new product that will allow you to cheaply pull the information back into your organisation, handing power back to users, distributing access and design.

      This will then be followed by a period of great excitement, with some people making themselves rich, but then that company will become large and bloated, creating more and more bloated systems, and then we'll be sending our information back out to a "central" system.

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    2. Re:Not what I signed up for by tverbeek · · Score: 2

      In all seriousness, if you're just getting out of college, that means you have plenty of time to change direction, start over if necessary, and find some other profession that you will enjoy (at least while that one lasts; some are perennial). Not so easy when you're a quarter century into one.

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  2. And when the cloud goes down. by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Your business is dead in the water.

    If that only happens 2 days a year, you just factor that as a cost unless there is some critical reason you must remain up (hospital).

    Also, it becomes difficult to differentiate your business from others.

    As jobs get completely slaughtered something has to give. Shorter work weeks or civil unrest.

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    1. Re:And when the cloud goes down. by TooMuchToDo · · Score: 2

      Excellent point. Netflix has moved almost all of the infrastructure into Amazon AWS. If you want to buy Netflix, I'm assuming they'd hand you the keys to the AWS login and the contracts they have in place with media groups (yes, the distribution centers are a different story, go with it for the example).

      What sort of value does your business have if someone else is running all the infrastructure behind it? And that infrastructure company sells resources cheap to anyone else in the world? You could build a Netflix, a Dropbox, a DNSMadeEasy/DynDNS/UltraDNS, etc., as long as you have a team with the time to build it.

      Exciting, interesting, and worrisome at the same time. As OP said, short work weeks or civil unrest. May you live in interesting times.

      TL;DR Massive, cheap infrastructure-on-demand drags down valuation of businesses that run on it. Win for consumers (hopefully), lose for businesses (not so bad).

    2. Re:And when the cloud goes down. by lpp · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Also, it becomes difficult to differentiate your business from others.

      Right now, the differentiator between you and me should not be how we store our data. Whether my data resides on a server in my office or in a databank with some outfit I can only access through my ISP, what decides it for our potential clients should be the quality of service we offer respectively, or even the types of service we offer.

    3. Re:And when the cloud goes down. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I am on board with shorter work weeks. A 4 day work seems adequate for most professions. Heck we could even have 4 9 hour days instead of 5 8 hour days if shaving 20% off the work week seems too big at first. I would think most people would be happier even if each workday is a bit longer.

    4. Re:And when the cloud goes down. by yarnosh · · Score: 2

      What sort of value does your business have if someone else is running all the infrastructure behind it?

      I'm not sure you really "get" how services like Amazon AWS/S3 work. All they do is manage the physical infrastructure at the lowest level. You still have to write your software to use all of it and tie it together. That's where the real value lies (in terms infrastructure). Making good use of Amazon is no trivial matter.

      You could build a Netflix, a Dropbox, a DNSMadeEasy/DynDNS/UltraDNS, etc., as long as you have a team with the time to build it.

      Absolutely. And that's what makes services like Amazon and Terramark so compelling. The thing is, not everyone can't be successful at it. Anyone could go out and start a website for almost nothing. Getting people to visit it is another story....

      TL;DR Massive, cheap infrastructure-on-demand drags down valuation of businesses that run on it. Win for consumers (hopefully), lose for businesses (not so bad).

      WTF are you talking about? How could cheap, available infrastructure possibly drag down valuation of a business? If you have X $$$ to invest in your tech business, you can either dump it into buying and maintaining your own hardware or you can put it into software to tie mature cloud services together.Either way, the value is there (assuming you invested wisely).

    5. Re:And when the cloud goes down. by trevelyon · · Score: 2

      I see more than a few problems with this article not the least being the base assumption that cloud computing will continue to grow at the pace it has so far. Cloud computing has the following major issues that still need to be addressed:

      1. Reliability - Cloud services still can not match well managed in-house IT for dependability IMO
      2. SLAs - Anyone that has actually negotiated and enforced SLAs knows what a joke they are. Unless you get the entire month's service cost for free when they provider misses the mark (and no-one does this) the penalties are so insignificant as to make even having an SLA pointless. By the time the outage hits the level where you will feel the actual discount your entire business could be gone completely (i.e. you've been down a week solid).
      3. Security - The more you trust unknown providers with unknown security implementations and share hardware with unknown entities the less control you will have over security issue. As more and more breaches occur untrustworthy organisations will be punished by their customers for their lax security.
      4. Data Lock In - reliance on many SaaS providers will sooner or later lead to you being able to not always get your data in the form you wish. It's the cloud version of Quickbooks, great while you are happy but just try to migrate all that data to something else. Note: this is not true of all SaaS providers but is of some, sooner or later without set standards on what to look for one of the lock in providers will be chosen.

      The other main problems with the articles are:
      1. Assumes hardware swap or VM reimage will fix most problems - Not sure where they got this idea but someone still needs to configure the software services for your specific tasks. A general VM is not the same as the customized config you use for your implementation, cloud or not.
      2. Assumes SaaS works on an enterprise scale - My experience is that for most things it simply does not. SaaS offers very good value for the SMB market but for most enterprises it has major issues that stop it from competing effectively with in-house applications. The largest one IMO being integration with other in-house systems and data sharing. Almost all SaaS offerings fall short in these areas and can not compete with a well run internal IT dept over even the mid-term. Sure there are short term gains in getting something quick into use but move down the timeline a few years and you find you rapidly end up with a spiderwork of hacks trying to tie systems together, systems you have very limited control over. In the end it pushes more responsibility to the "glue systems" changing your IT to a very reactionary structure. Good luck should one of your SaaS providers go out of business or change their API drastically.
      I am not saying there is no place in the enterprise for cloud computing, there quite obviously is. What I am saying is it is one more tool a well run enterprise IT dept. should use but use cautiously. It's a much more ready fit for the SMB market that normally does not have the resources to integrate it's systems and is used to running with a slew of unconnected data. Enterprises need not only the ability to access their data but a measure of flexibility in how it is structured and accessed. Time will tell what the true cost but I do envision a similar situation to outsourcing of helpdesks, we may see many apps sent to the cloud return to in-house systems after they do not meet the needs of the enterprise.

    6. Re:And when the cloud goes down. by hoppo · · Score: 2

      At that scale, though, Netflix probably negotiated a pretty sweet deal with Amazon. A flagship customer like Netflix really overcomes a lot of the objections customers may have. It's a pretty powerful answer to any company who questions whether or not Amazon can operate on an enterprise scale. Odds are, Amazon is sacrificing its profit margins, possibly even eating a loss, to host Netflix's operations.

    7. Re:And when the cloud goes down. by andy1307 · · Score: 2

      Your business is dead in the water.

      Yes..because that sort of thing never happens when you host the services in-house.

    8. Re:And when the cloud goes down. by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 2

      At my company they have solved this problem by no longer training people. In just about anything.

      We went LIVE on SA FRIKKIN P with NO training. How can we demand 5 years experience of new people?

      We will get a small training course sometime later this fall.

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  3. retrain as a lawyer by Hognoxious · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sod IT, go to law school. When it's all up in the cloud and the cloud breaks there'll be a killing to be made.

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    1. Re:retrain as a lawyer by AtlantaSteve · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'm a 12+ year Java developer, who recently completed a JD at a T2 law school. I was basically bored and unsatisfied in my career. I still love to code, but I've seen pretty much everything there is to see... and I spend 95% of my time in meetings or wrestling with environmental dependencies rather than coding.

      However, I've stayed in I.T. regardless, because the grass is NOT greener on the other side. As with anything else in society, the top-5% of lawyers are doing great... but things are miserable for the bottom-95%. It's the worst legal job market in almost a hundred years. It can take a year or two of searching to find a legal job, and the only legal jobs available consist of soul-crushing drudgery (even by I.T. standards). Finally, the average salary for non-top-5% lawyer is about 50% below that of an experienced Java developer (who can always land a new job on a few weeks notice).

      I know that the parent comment was played for sarcasm, but don't believe the hype. The legal field sucks much worse than I.T.

  4. Balderdash by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 2

    "Cloud" exists because the MBA's wanted their own word for Internet.

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    1. Re:Balderdash by WaffleMonster · · Score: 2

      The Cloud is an abstract interface, not a specific technology. It always has been. Look at some networking documents from years ago and you'll find the cloud present. The cloud services might be implemented using virtualization, but you don't care, because it is just an abstract network that you throw your bits at.

      I think it is funny that we see regular people getting the concept of the cloud while technical folk, who have been using the term for decades, are trying to turn it into something new

      LOL clouds on network diagrams ususally point to networks or systems outside of your administrative domain.

      Is that all "the cloud" is?

  5. Good thing the cloud got delayed today by afidel · · Score: 2

    Well then it's a good thing that VMWare just put up a big old toll plaza on the road to the cloud that will slow things down significantly for many organizations. For those that aren't aware VMWare just announced their pricing model for ESX 5 and it's pretty freaking outrageous, $90/GB list bought in $2800 increments if you want Enterprise with most of the good features.

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    1. Re:Good thing the cloud got delayed today by afidel · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You mean the ones that keep having multiday outages? Yeah like I believe that will be 40-50% of new IT spend in only 4 years...
      My org is fairly pro SaaS but we just got hit by a half day outage with Salesforce on the golive day for a new solution that of course uses Salesforce as the user interface. That was egg on our face that we couldn't fix and which made quite a few people sit up and take notice. I'm not sure that it's a death nail for new projects being based around cloud/SaaS here but significantly more downtime and it's going to be a serious risk flagged by project sponsors and auditors.

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    2. Re:Good thing the cloud got delayed today by jimicus · · Score: 2

      Don't know about Openstack, but KVM and Xen both suffer the same problem.

      They provide you with a fairly primitive - albeit effective - toolkit. They don't provide you with a pre-cooked setup which you can just hit "Install" on and 15 minutes later, away you go. If you want to do anything flashy (for instance, put together something that competes with AWS), you are going to have to dedicate insane amounts of time to it.

      If you just need virtualisation on a couple of cheapie Dell servers they're fantastic. But if that's all you need, you're hardly VMWare's target market anyway.

  6. There's a total shock... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

    "The Cloud" is really just the latest advance in the relentless encroachment of "appliances", which are just the IT-specific implementation of the replacement of skilled tradesmen with capital-intensive systems and disposable peons that has already done a pretty good job in other industries.

    You can replace thousands of jacks-of-many-trades smalltime sysadmins with a few architects and a bunch of screwdriver monkeys. ROI, here we come! (Even the confusion over what constitutes a "cloud" arguably shows the progression in finer detail: Things like EC2 only abstract away the hardware and interconnect stuff, while leaving you with the need for VM admins to actually turn the cloud into services. Things like Azure or Google's App whatever it is abstract away the sysadmins and leave you just needing the coders to write the applications. Hosted applications, webapps, 3rd-party email providers and the like abstract away the apps, and just leave you to point the client at the right URL. As soon as we all get our Chromebooks, we can fire everybody but the licensing person and the janitor, and each replacement laptop will automatically be provisioned according to the spreadsheet maintained by the licensing person as soon as the janitor plunks it on top of the RFID fob built into the desk...)

    On the (very bleak) bright side, we might at least get to enjoy a little righteous schadenfreude when the axe comes for those techie-uber-libertarians who have spent years watching other peoples' creeping unemployment with the smug conviction that they are too good for that, and the peons can always retrain for the new jobs that the invisible hand of innovation will shortly be providing...

  7. Who do you trust? by khasim · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem with the "cloud" is that you put your complete trust in
    a. the cloud provider
    b. the telco that connects you to the cloud

    As anyone who has ever had to deal with outside vendors knows, they have no real commitment to your business. You are a single account.

    When your business cannot connect to the systems, it is a crisis for your business.

    For them, it is another day in the office.

    1. Re:Who do you trust? by mini+me · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Absolutely. These days, people at home, let alone businesses, are operating at least two active connections to the internet (cable/DSL and cellular). The internet was designed right from the start to support multiple connections so that a link can fail without anyone noticing. It seems strange to me that network outages are still a topic of debate.

    2. Re:Who do you trust? by antifoidulus · · Score: 5, Funny

      duel connections

      No wonder you are having so many issues connecting to the internet.... Your connections are constantly firing pistols at each other at 10 paces.

    3. Re:Who do you trust? by yarnosh · · Score: 2

      As anyone who has ever had to deal with outside vendors knows, they have no real commitment to your business. You are a single account.

      Except when they do. Through an SLA. Also, they have a reputation to maintain. It just isn't good business to go letting your clients flap in the wind.

      Now, personally, I absolutely hate relying on outside vendors for support when I know that I have the expertise to handle most problems myself given the right access. But, to someone who doesn't have that expertise, it doesn't really matter a whole lot if the support is outside or inside the company. I don't think it is as bleak as you paint it. You can get good service providers and you can get bad ones. Just as you can hire good local admins or you can hire bad ones. You just have to weigh the costs and risks.

    4. Re:Who do you trust? by Oceanplexian · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Failover with multiple connections is far from simple, and generally out-of-reach for most businesses. If you're hosting web services, then you need to need to acquire IPv4 space (not exactly easy nowadays), a BGP prefix, an expensive router, and pay hundreds to thousands of dollars a month to >1 ISP that support BGP.

      Alternatively, you could just get 2 cheap internet connections and a router that supports active fail-over/load balancing, however now half your address-space on the other ISP is unreachable. Not to mention that those routers cost thousands of dollars if you don't enjoy hours of BSD hacking...

      So yeah, it's not that strange that bill-the-office-manager isn't running a HA configuration.

    5. Re:Who do you trust? by tubs · · Score: 2

      And of course, the wires from your premesis go through the same ducting - so that guy with a digger neatly cuts off both your main and backup linls.

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    6. Re:Who do you trust? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2

      It depends on the business. I've had a server hosted with a couple of small colo businesses for a while. In both cases, they employed under a dozen people, and if I had any problems then there was always someone available to fix them. That someone would always be a person who was empowered to make decisions, and whose income depended on keeping customers happy. On the other hand, I don't have the contact details of anyone in a management position at my ISP. If I call them, I talk to someone in an outsourced call centre (run by IBM), who can't make any decisions because they do not represent the company in any capacity.

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    7. Re:Who do you trust? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2

      Some years ago, I picked up a dual processor (way before dual core was common) machine on eBay very cheaply, by searching for 'duel processor'. Everyone else was searching for the correct spelling, and so no one else bid on it.

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    8. Re:Who do you trust? by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 2

      You need to be really careful about SLA's.

      There are horror stories about SLA's.

      For example: No more than 1% downtime per year sounds good-- but that allows them to have you down up to 3 days.

      A friends million dollar printer went down. Other bigger customers with SLA's were also having problems at the same time. They got service after about 36 hours. Sure- they got some SLA fine money. Lost a lot more.

      Could have ALSO happened if they had an inhouse repair person that got sick/died, etc. But SLA's are just a money deal at the bottom. Sometime it's worth it to the vendor to violate them.

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    9. Re:Who do you trust? by Vancorps · · Score: 2

      Way cheaper for a single server perhaps, I haven't found it to be any cheaper when you're talking 5-10 servers or more. The cloud is a decent option for the ultra small and the ultra large companies out there. Anyone in between and it's still very much up in the air as to whether it is cheaper or not.

      I've found the key is to have enough local infrastructure to function on your own and use cloud services to scale out. So I have a redundant database environment locally which replicates to the cloud when I need additional traffic for our website. Same story for web servers, for any other type of server I haven't found a need to throw it into the cloud.

      All the while I fight the urge to call it all bullshit as the added work and security risks involved with integrating a third party into your environment adds to the costs. A few terabytes of space in the cloud will also cost a pretty penny.

    10. Re:Who do you trust? by dave562 · · Score: 2

      The cloud is a decent option for the ultra small and the ultra large companies out there. Anyone in between and it's still very much up in the air as to whether it is cheaper or not.

      Anyone doing IT should be doing some sort of "cloud" setup. By that I mean (mostly) virtualized, SAN backed and replicated to a backup site. The question most people have to consider is whether or not it is more affordable to do it yourself, or to lease resources from someone else (a "cloud" provider).

      A few terabytes of space in the cloud will also cost a pretty penny.

      Storage is what it comes down to for us. I'm running about 75TB worth of storage and bringing hundreds of gigabytes of new data online every week. One of the vendors that we use for Citrix support is transitioning into being a cloud provider. We talked about using them to host our environment for all of five minutes. Once they figured out that our SaaS environment is almost as big as their entire cloud environment, the discussion was over.

  8. Is a new California gold rush... by ibsteve2u · · Score: 2

    Corporations without any IT staff interfacing with "vendors" who are highly proficient at making soothing technical noises while cranking out large bills? Wheeee...money growing on MBA-shaped trees.

    And "What trade secrets?" is the least of it....CEOs better start being careful about the content of the emails they send to their mistresses, 'cuz leverage is leverage.

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  9. Re:Blame IT for this. by tokul · · Score: 2

    o No need to deal with the payroll of admins. o No need to deal with backups and the attendant infrastructure.

    Oh really. How do you connect to that cloud thingy. You still need some local IT infrastructure for that.

    o Guaranteed service levels.

    Contractually guaranteed. Good luck with that contract, when your business depends on third party, third party fscks up and only you have is some paper.

    o Actual security. There has yet to be a breach with a cloud provider. Plus, this is what SLAs are for.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dropbox_(service)#Criticism

    o Not handcuffed to OS, application, and database versions.

    Only if your cloud service provider does not have some dependency on client OS.

  10. Upon further consideration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Private clouds will win in the end. With public clouds you get:

    1. No hardware control.
    a) You have no control over your server hardware. It could be running on counterfeit bits of string and chewing gum from China for all you know (try explaining that to a defense contractor).
    b) You have no control over physical access to your hardware. You'd better hope the guy they hired at minimum wage to watch the door at night didn't get a better offer.
    c) You have no control over bandwidth and connectivity agreements. I hope the ISPs between you and the datacenter are friendly, because a single peering dispute with you on the other side or a new and unfriendly QoS arrangement and you're fucked.

    2. No cost control.
    a) Presently cloud services like Amazon's do not allow you to set usage caps for your servers. A DDoS at the right time could cost you unheard-of amounts of money, your job (hey, you're responsible for this cloud thing, right?) or even bankrupt your enterprise.
    b) Usage-based costs are unpredictable and will play hell with your budget forecasts.
    c) Fees for everything. TANSTAAFL.

    3. No data control.
    a) You have no guarantee your data is securely disposed of when your cloud provider recycles its drives.
    b) Your data could go missing at any time for no reason in a manner that prevents its restoration from anything but expensive offsite storage, which you're still maintaining now that you're using the cloud, right? -- As Amazon so eloquently proved.
    c) What happens when your cloud provider goes out of business like Iron Mountain?

    Private clouds will afford you most of the benefits with none of these problems. In the end it all boils down to money: the cloud has brought us commodity-scale computing, and you get what you pay for. If anything, I foresee a bright future in fabrics, and not the textile kind. Better brush off those networking credentials.

  11. One would be a fool not to go with cloud services? by D4C5CE · · Score: 2

    For a midsized company, one would be a fool not to go with cloud based services.

    Until that close encounter between an excavator and both of your redundant Internet connections... ;-)

  12. Re:This is silly. by mini+me · · Score: 2

    The cloud exists to hide infrastructure. The cloud is an abstract network. If, for example, all the service's ties to the USA die, you are automatically routed to the datacenter in Germany. You don't know or care about how it works, it just does. It doesn't fail because it is the cloud.

    If you service cannot automatically deal with failure, it is not the cloud, it is just a regular node on the network.

  13. It's about the points of failure. by khasim · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When the systems were in your office, you had X number of points of failure.

    And you had someone on site who's job it was to make sure that those systems were available to you.

    So you're moving to the "cloud" to save money ... by increasing the number of the points of failure.

    So then you add additional systems to mitigate the problems that come with the "cloud". And you probably outsource the maintenance of those systems as well.

    And everything is fine until there is a problem. At which point you realize that all the people who you depend upon to keep your systems working only see you as another account. If your business fails, then they're out a portion of their income (until they replace the account with another one).

    1. Re:It's about the points of failure. by Princeofcups · · Score: 2

      If your business fails, then they're out a portion of their income (until they replace the account with another one).

      Ah, but you are forgetting the crucial point. It's not your (the middle manager's) fault that it failed, it's theirs. You discharged your responsibility with the outsourcing, er, cloud contract.

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  14. Re:yep by mini+me · · Score: 3, Informative

    EC2 is not the cloud. EC2 can provide you with the tools necessary to build a cloud service, but by itself it just a datacenter full of computers. And you cannot throw your application on a few EC2 instances in the same datacenter and call it a cloud application either. That is not the cloud, that's just a networked application.

    If a service cannot survive simultaneous catastrophic failures in multiple physical locations, it is not a cloud service. Without being intimately familiar with it, I would like to say that Amazon's S3 service would fit the bill for being a cloud service. Given what Amazon has said about it, it does sound like it meets the criteria of the cloud. EC2, however, does not.

  15. Re:Blame IT for this. by mlts · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'll bite.

    Scalability: Depends. Some things may scale like putting files for download with Akamai. Other things, not so much. The cloud is a tool in the architect's toolbox.

    Admin payroll: Someone is going to need to architect things, so you will still have an IT department, if only to maintain your internal network links, and make sure the desktop PCs don't become botnet clients. Don't forget networking. You will need to have those fat pipes to access the cloud provider, so you will still need a space for those Cisco Nexus 7000 boxes with the clear covers.

    Guarenteed SLAs: Read the contract... the SLA may not be as good as people think it might be.

    Oh, and if the cloud provider goes bankrupt, the data on their servers is free for the taking by anyone who so desires. Even though it is SOP for auctions to wipe the drives, this gets forgotten or "forgotten". Promises mean nothing when some competitor in Elbonia now has your payroll (sold your employees' info to ID thieves), your client list (and is offering the same services for 50% less), your source code (with a version of your product that is exactly the same except in name), your suppliers (which are then harassed to make better deals elsewhere), and others.

    No recorded breach with a cloud provider... time will tell on this one. Nothing is 100% secure. Gmail has had people report incidents, Dropbox has had the security tokens that people talked about, and so on.

    No server room? I'm sorry, but even with "economies of scale", you are either paying for a data center in house, or you will be paying for one somewhere else. Don't forget regulations about physical security of data.

    DB/OS versions? Sure. However, if something breaks your app's code due to an update done without notice, there is no way to roll back. ITIL 101 here.

    Exchange versions? See above.

    Don't assume the cloud provider has backups automatically. If someone logs on as an admin with a cloud provider and blows all your storage away, it may not be recoverable, while the old LTO-5 tape library will be able to restore data. When push comes to shove, and in some industries, you better retain data for a while (up to 50 years if dealing with the FAA), you need to pack your own parachute. I trust tape, and moving archived data to the latest archival version every couple years far more than a cloud provider's promise. However, I'm one of those "IT guys" that the parent apparently dislike, so if someone wants to be fast and loose with their data, they can store it on the cloud and assume that their storage has all the snapshot features of the EMC SAN they want to chuck.

    Cloud computing is a useful tool. It won't replace server rooms anytime soon. Maybe I'm a fossil, but I rather trust a VTL, replicated SAN, or even good old fashioned tape far more than I would trust just an assurance that a cloud provider has my data backed up.

  16. Cloud Service TCO is not all it's cracked up to be by VTEX · · Score: 2

    I gotta say, I've tried several "Cloud" services and I am not impressed when it comes to TCO. While it's nice to have on demand provisioning, the performance of the virtual server instances are generally very poor compared to basic dedicated servers that are similarly priced.

    Don't believe me.... run a simple sysbench and test the cpu and file io on EC2 (or your favorite cloud service) and compare it to a hosted dedicated box. In general on a similarly priced and spec-ed VM/machine you are going to find orders of magnitude better performance on the dedicated box, and that performance equals money saved.

    In addition, many dedicated hosts now have 2 or 4 hour provisioning times - so if you don't need more boxes instantly, it's not as if you need to wait that long.

    So yes, in the end, cloud services can be convenient.... but you certainly pay for that convenience. They are great for testing and development, but long-term hosting.... eh.... most companies would be better off if they stopped drinking the kool-aid and looked at other options.