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AMD Bulldozer Information and Benchmarks Leaked
MojoKid writes "With Bobcat and Llano launched, AMD has one more major product overhaul set for this year. The company's Bulldozer CPU will launch in the next few months, and after years of waiting, enthusiasts and IT industry analysts are both curious to see what AMD has in its high performance pipeline. According to recently leaked info, one of the new AMD octal-core processors will be an AMD FX-8130P running at 3.2GHz base speed, with what's reported as a 3.7GHz Turbo speed, and a 4.2GHz clock speed if only half the CPU's cores are in use." Writer Joel Hruska justly points out that measures based on unofficial data and unreleased chips are subject to all kinds of potential errors, not to mention Photoshop.
There is a 3dMark 11 result screenshot with a date of 01/02/2008, they are implying the result is fake.
My desktop clock is always wrong except for Fedora. Why Fedora? My Suse is 2 hr 31 min off. Why does Linux hate the desktop clock so much?
Except 3dMark 2011 didn't exist until last December, it's more likely that he never set the BIOS clock.
Would you rather AMD go out of business and Intel charge $2000 for that $200 CPU?
Game! - Where the stick is mightier than the sword!
I don't really understand the hype behind Bulldozer.
You are still thinking raw CPU power still matters. In a world where even web browsers are 3D accelerated, the GPU suddenly becomes extremely important, even more than the CPU. If you are gaming, the best CPU will still be crippled by the GPU present in that system, and that is what's happening with Intel.
If Bobcat and Llano are any indication, AMD will integrate a GPU that will be at least 2-4 times faster than the GPU in Sandy Bridge while consuming the same amount of power. And if some of the reviews I read are correct, the integrated AMD GPU will be able to work together with the discrete GPU for a 30-70% performance boost.
So if someone buys a very cheap system without a discrete GPU, Bobcat will be faster than Sandy Bridge, and may even be able to play some older games that choke on SB. And Bobcat will be faster for every day tasks as well such as browsing, playing flash movies and games, playing HD content, etc.
Now if someone buys a high end system with a discrete GPU, Bobcat will still be faster, because the integrated GPU will work with the discrete GPU. SB currently does not even have such a feature. Even if it did, SB's integrated GPU is still weaker by far than Bobcat's.
Yeah, but that is base 16. So it must therefore allocate two numbers per core. 1st core handles all the 1s and 2s, second core all the 3s and 4s etc and the eight core all the Es and Fs. It makes perfect sense, really.
Heh. I'm running a 1.83GHz Intel Pentium-M on my daily-use laptop. Its performance is absolutely satisfactory, as well, and it just turned 7 years old.
I had the option, recently, of buying a new battery for that machine or buying a new battery for a very similar, just-a-bit-newer Core Duo laptop that I also have (with a far-lesser display), or buying something completely different.
I elected to buy a battery for the old Pentium-M machine: It still does what I want, still feels quick compared to far-faster machines, and works just great for the stuff that actually earns me money.
But I don't mix multi-track audio on it, edit video, or do Serious Computations with it at all anymore (I did all of those when it was new). The hardest work it sees these days is probably when I watch Youtube videos and porn while torrenting the hell out of the hotel's bandwidth when I'm on the road, and it keeps up with that without a fight.
Kid-proof tablet..
fuck multi core, I want that 4.2ghz for legacy programs.
"Bouncing Babies" at 4.2ghz awesome.
Compiling and encoding/transcoding are the only tasks I can think of that are CPU bound, and to some extent both are limited by I/O throughput as well. Most graphics cards have hardware decoders for most common codecs, and most encoding isn't done by consumers. Transcoding usually isn't done by consumers, but I suppose if you're ripping DVD's or something you're doing transcoding.
That said, it takes 15 minutes or so to rip a DVD into a 1GB MKV file on my Core i7 laptop. In other words, we are well beyond the point where most consumers will see CPU speed being a limiting factor in everything they want to do. CPU speeds are actually following a generally downward trend at the moment (except in the enthusiast markets), as the general tendency is towards reduced power consumption and reduced heat, and the realization that processors from 10 years ago were fast enough to surf the web, chat, and write documents. Gaming is really the only mainstream use where the speed is generally trending upwards, and in that market, the power of your video card is far more important than the speed of your CPU... I would rather game on a system with a $200 CPU and a $500 Graphics card than the other way around.
I think most here are missing the forest for the trees. Unless you are a Crysis playing ePeen "must win teh benchmarks!" type AMD doesn't have to win all they have to be is "good enough" which I would argue they currently are and these new chips will simply make it better.
I currently have a Deneb AMD quad as my main home machine and slam the living hell out of it. Video transcoding, using it as a Win 7 DVR, playing games for hours, often WHILE transcoding or recording and you know what? it works great. And I'm a hardcore case, most folks still only do one task at a time, be it gaming, browsing, whatever. Now most importantly I have a machine that will do all that, as well as take a 6 core later on if I wish, with 1.5Tb of HDDs and 8Gb of RAM and an HD4850 and the whole smash, including Win 7 HP X64? Less than $600 after MIR.
And THAT is what matters especially in a dead economy. Folks want a reasonably powerful machine that will last them for years and won't break their wallets and AMD frankly gives them overkill for cheap. I have built fully loaded triples that crank out the video at 1080p all day long for less than $450, quads less than $500 and thanks to how long AMD sticks with sockets if 5 years down the road they decide they want a little more oomph I can pick them up a cheap OEM and just drop it in.
I have found for the jobs the vast majority of folks that walk into my shop have "good enough" was passed with the dual core chips but thanks to AMD for nearly the same money they can go triple or quad which just gives them more years of service without slowdown. Hell the prices are so cheap i built my dad a quad for home. Does he need a quad? Oh hell no, he still single tasks everything like it is 1993! But by going quad I know that no matter how much crap like messenger he ends up running in the task bar he'll never lose responsiveness, and this machine will probably last him the rest of his life.
So unless you are trying to do the super heavy lifting like multiple compiles or hardcore video editing (which I'll admit there is more guys here that do such hardcore CPU pounding than the general pop by a long shot) then all the extra $$$ you spend by going Intel is simply wasted money. I'd say as long as AMD can stay even within a third of the performance of the Intel chips they'll be "good enough" for the vast majority, and having nice low prices simply seals the deal.
ACs don't waste your time replying, your posts are never seen by me.
Since Vista you can use UTC in the RTC.
Add DWORD HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\TimeZoneInformation\RealTimeIsUniversal
and set it to 1.
Well, once again the superior intuitive and explorable interfaces of Windows are demonstrated. :-)
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
AMD doesn't have to win all they have to be is "good enough"
If you've been paying attention, this strategy is working wonders in the OEM market. Have you looked at the Best Buy flyer in the past couple months? Nearly half the laptops are:
AMD E-350
3-4GB RAM
500GB HD
15.6" screen
There'll be one each for Toshiba, Acer, HP, etc, but the stats are identical and the price (~$400) is eye-popping. We're about to see some serious marketshare slide in AMD's favour if we haven't already.
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