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Anonymous Hack One Gigabyte of Data From NATO
GeekTech.in writes "The AnonymousIRC hacking organization have claimed this afternoon that they have hacked into NATO servers. As one of their tweets says: ' Yes, #NATO was breached. And we have lots of restricted material. With some simple injection. In the next days, wait for interesting data :) '"
This is happening so often that better make a hack.slashdot.org and just add the site that was hacked and when... this is getting old...
Like all of them, ever. Not posting as AC because I'm not currently in jail.
Really if a bunch of vigilantes can do it, imagine what the gov't sponsored Chinese hackers can do!
Of course it is! The US Govt commands such things all the time!
I certainly don't want to provoke anyone, but I wonder how long it will take until they hack gmail and other cloud-based services, and put all the data into the open?
Thanks to these guys, I'm not so sure anymore whether I like this idea of the cloud.
If Pandora's box is destined to be opened, *I* want to be the one to open it.
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Everyone is hacking into government computers and learning the secrets of the government oh noes. I have government data on my computer maybe more than some of these hackers claim to have liberated here is the catch. Gov data is very boring. For example my latest gov communique was plans for a building with a rotten roof. Yes I have to look at it and bid on repairing.
I think the government is running out of terrorist and need a new batch of international terrorists with computers. You are not safe they can get the government they can get you. I think this stuff is all a ploy to try and push stricter rules concerning your rights online. And a way to make nerds everywhere potential terrorist suspects. Soon that laptop bag will be just as bad as a turban and a dynamite vest.
I know, it's a stupid question but I have to ask it. Why are government and military servers and computers that store sensitive data connected to the internet at all. Shouldn't they be on isolated local networks only?
How is it that all these different sites keep getting hacked? I mean, NATO doesn't have access to experts in internet security that are able to defend against these attacks?
I'm not in the field, obviously, and I know that things are always evolving, but it seems to me that there needs to be more layers in web security. Also, why is there not more encryption on sensitive data? Is encryption more costly if it's more complex?
I can understand when a corporation gets hacked, they're going cheap on web security because of the costs. But one would think that truly sensitive information with major geopolitical players would be buttoned up pretty damn tight.
Makes you wonder though... what would the world be like if people were actually held responsible for their actions and were not able to do things anonymously. Wouldn't that mean that Anonymous should eventually be self exposing?
(I'm not saying it's right/wrong/etc. Just wondering.)
Every time I start to have faith in humanity, I ruin it by driving to work between 7 and 8 am.
The rumor is that they have an unknown Apache exploit.
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
Glad to learn that the boys aren't discouraged by the arrests!
Makes you wonder what would happen in the world if people in the armed forces were actually held responsible for their actions and were not able to do whatever they wanted.
http://www.collateralmurder.com/
They probably are a security company.
I know you're AC, but seriously, the US government kills innocent people every day of the week. And yet people are concerned about whether the release of a given set of information (perhaps about said killing) will get one person killed. Can I get a re-working of priorities up in here?
"What the American public doesn't know is what makes them the American public." -Ray Zalinsky (Tommy Boy)
Or just don't start any.
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That's classified. Non classified material cannot get into classified places.
Seriously, if they want security, then they should have "Tiger Teams" , that is people who try to breach security to FIND OUT if it is any good.
If governments were more open and didn't try to keep so many secret, it wouldn't be so bad if they got hacked. By definition, if there were no secrets, they'd be nothing to hack. Perhaps this a motivation behind the attacks by Anonymous: they want to show governments that keeping secrets is no longer worthwhile.
I think future governments have three choices: 1. Pay the cost of maintaining highly secure systems to keep their secrets (which can never be guaranteed) 2. endure the costs of their secrets being discovered/revealed by hackers or enemy states or 3. learn to make do without secrets.
It might seem that governments that keep secrets have an upper hand against those who do not. However, this advantage is entirely dependant on maintaining those secrets and maintaining secrets has an associated cost. The cost of maintaining secrets may very well be rising as cracking techniques become more sophisticated. However, by giving up on secrets, you are letting go of the associated costs. Perhaps in some ways you are giving up everything so that there's nothing left to loose. Though if the costs of keeping secrets becomes high enough, nations without secrets may have the overall advantage.
"Restricted", "sensitive", and "secret" material is low level. That is the level of material that everyone in the military and government bureaucracy has access to. It is the sort of stuff that is either not very sensitive (ie enemy agents could figure it out easily just from observing a base or similar) or has only a small window in which it is useful (ie by the time the enemy could react it would be too late).
These days with the adversarial government/media relationship tons of material is classified like this just to discourage the media from baking scandals, and to prevent citizens from finding out about legitimate scandals (at least in the short term).
What was accessed in this case was probably some boring inter-NATO administrative emails, with the most interesting stuff being up-coming exercises and the like.
The stuff that Wikileaks released that inspired this spate of hackings WAS from an air-gapped computer.
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Plenty of people join with nothing but the best intentions; if you think the guys actually pulling the trigger in that video don't lose sleep over it I don't think you know many soldiers. If you simply must condemn someone for that video, by all means - go after the people who attempted to cover it up. Not the poor guys who had to find out after watching the news that they killed innocent men.
War is cruelty. There is no use trying to reform it. The crueler it is, the sooner it will be over. - William T. Sherman
Seeig as this data is probably along the lines of how many crates of dried parsley some air base is requisitioning doesn't strike me as a life or death matter.
You need to read up on Bletchley Park and Ultra. Mundane information about military units and individuals turned out to be amazingly useful.
For those of you who don't understand the military's networks. And there are a lot of you, it seems.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIPRNet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NIPRNet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigint
For really important stuff, that's what dedicated lines are for. For the rest, SSH tunnels and VPNs.
It's this habit of putting your secret documents on the same machine that serves your website that's getting people in trouble.
A reasonable state should provide for decreasing levels of privacy as your power increases. For example, those with significant power to sway opinion—politicians, celebrities, etc.—should have much less right to privacy than Joe Random. Indeed, this is the way our privacy laws are structured today.
Where our privacy laws break down is when it comes to corporate privacy and government privacy—the privacy of large groups acting as a single hive mind. These groups should have almost no privacy because they have much greater power than the average citizen. Unfortunately, this is seldom the case, and this is the problem that needs to be fixed—not reducing the privacy of individuals, but rather reducing the privacy of individuals in their official capacity while working together in large groups. That's not very easy to do, though, at least without decreasing their privacy as individuals, which is why things go horribly wrong (whether because you gave them too much privacy and got corruption or too little privacy and got MonicaGate absurdity).
I tend to lean on the side of targeted laws in this area—sunshine laws, open records laws, open meetings laws, etc. When these are insufficient, the flaws should be corrected. When these are ignored, the perpetrators should do jail time to serve as an example to others. If this were happening consistently, we'd have a lot fewer problems with our democracy.
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Of course the majority of people have nothing "but the best intentions" at heart.
However, my point was if we're going to start attempting to make these "anon" people start owning up for their actions let's start with the ones committing actual atrocities. You know the ones covering up the things Anon uncovers.
And I'm not sure if we watched the same video, but the boys in that one firing the guns didn't seem too hesitant about killing those people. I don't think they're losing any sleep.
My boyfriend is in the marines (gay), so I know a few people in the forces (now that that's out of the way).
That's awesome, actually. Well, thank him for /that/ particular service, has to be rough if he's open about it.
Like I said... I'm biased... I look at a lack of hesitation as good training. I heard a saying in basic - "Ready, aim, fire, yours, theirs, bodycount and regrets - in that order." and while we could argue all day about the morality of striking targets with no feasible means of fighting back (foot vs chopper) they did everything according to procedure - a procedure that's designed to protect your significant other and my friends when they've got boots on the ground, so... that's a win in my book.
It sucks... but war isn't pretty and it never will be. I would butcher 100 to save 1000 - and our ROE save lives every day - don't forget it.
i dont buy for a second anonymous is legit at all, this is a CIA front creating problems to garner a reaction from the public so legislation can be passed to further restrict internet usage. I can smell scams like this @ this point in my life from a mile away. And I know alot of people who share my opinion. You cant fool all the people all the time you fucks. As an american citizen the constitution gives us the right to revolution in the case which the government becomes corrupt. Never forget that, and question everything.
I agree on lacking hesitation: people die from hesitation.
The glee, enjoyment and frivolity displayed by these men, however, seems to add to the reasons why these incidents are covered up.
And again I agree with punishing those who covered it up, but that frivolity is sickening.