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GNOME and KDE Devs Wrangle Over 'System Settings' Name

An anonymous reader writes "The developer of the KDE System Settings application has launched a formal complaint against GNOME for renaming 'Control Center' to 'System Settings' in GNOME 3.0. This developer is demanding that GNOME immediately change the name of their control panel area. Developers on both sides are now discussing this act."

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  1. Re:This is ridiculous! by JamesP · · Score: 4, Interesting

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    No, really, this is ridiculous

    KDE for breaking and rebuilding everything, while making it half-assed.
    Gnome for dumbing-things down excessively (we may call it 'retarding-it-down')

    Switched to XFCE. Next computer is going to be from that company from Cupertino

    This whole kind of idiocy is why we can't have nice things...

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    how long until /. fixes commenting on Chrome?
  2. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    RTFA. The real issue is that duplicating the name is causing system conflicts for those with both installed.

  3. Let me get it right. by drolli · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The problem seems to be that duplicate names for different entries in menus on common distributions seem not be be correctly handled and the fix for this is not to go the consistent way (the same things are named in the same way) and fix the functions which create the menus (like detecting duplicate entries and attaching an indication of the package name in the entry), but to plainly forbid to name entries in the same way?

    I dont like that. This is not the year of the linux desktop.

  4. Two menu items with the same name by tepples · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you have two menu items with the same name, how do you decide which to choose? The short-term solution being proposed in the thread is to rename the "System Settings" of whatever desktop is not in use: call GNOME's app "GNOME System Settings" when in a KDE desktop.

    1. Re:Two menu items with the same name by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 4, Informative

      That is precisely how they decided to solve it, to everyone's satisfaction. Nothing to see here anymore, move along.

  5. Re:seems to be about a name clash by SomeKDEUser · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Uhh, I also comes from a long background of GNOME ignoring KDE, and acting as though they exist in a vaccuum. Also, they knew about the naming issue.

    So the guy has reasons to be miffed: GNOME, at this stage lives in a bizzare delusion that they are an OS, and not just a DE. And this attitude is clearly grating: they seem to believe that what they do is the standard, and that probably KDE is something like windowsblind is (was?) for MS windows. And of course, the KDE dev have stopped assuming good faith, because their is none.

  6. Re:This is ridiculous! by bhcompy · · Score: 5, Funny

    There's that word again; "lighter". Why are things so much lighter in the future? Is there a problem with the earth's gravitational pull?

  7. Re:Yeah... by rubycodez · · Score: 4, Funny

    Quit using two bloated desktops that jumped the shark and have roadmaps leading to buggy piles of shit as milestones, and your problems are solved.

  8. Re:This is ridiculous! by mcgrew · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's the politically correct term for "not so damned fat and bloated", although "leaner" might be more PC.

    I thought it was silly too until I rtfa. KDE is right, it will cause problems for folks using both.

  9. Re:This is ridiculous! by thsths · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have to say that XFCE is getting mighty fat recently - it is no fun on an old PC or even in a virtual machine. Which means that I am moving on to LXDE - it does just what I want, and it does it quickly.

    Is there a law that says software has to get fat over time? Because that is surely the way it is going. KDE 1.0 was pretty light at some point, and up to KDE 3 it worked well in a virtual machine. I guess I could always use trinity instead - but then again I really like okular over kpdf...

  10. Re:This is ridiculous! by Darinbob · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When you get to the phase where your new features all involve renaming things, rounding corners, or improving "user experience" then you know it's done and you should pick a new project to work on.

    I'm sort of serious here. Early on in a project there are lots of important changes and each release has some big improvements. Later on though the devs/company wants to keep up having recent releases so they start reaching deep in the barrel to find things to keep the feature list full.