Personal DNA Sequencing Machine One Step Closer
oxide7 writes "A new, low cost semiconductor-based gene sequencing machine has been developed and may unlock the door to advanced medicines and life itself. A team led by Jonathan Rothberg of Ion Torrent in Guilford, Conn is working on a system which uses semiconductors to decode DNA, dramatically reducing costs and taking them closer to being able to reach the goal of a $1000 human genome test. The current optical based system costs around $49000 and is already on the market and being used in over 40 countries."
It's about time.
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From the short video on their site (youtube alternate), it appears that this technology relies on a DNA template across thousands or millions of wells on a chip that emits hydrogen ions every time a base is incorporated into a DNA strand by a polymerase. I'm not a biologist but it looks like a pretty neat idea and I certainly hope it works as well as they say it does. I guess even if your sensor isn't that great at classifying between A, G, C or T then you can just build more wells on the chip and look at the statistics. I'm not sure how they ensure that one process is going on in each cell but I'm hoping this yields some cheap and fast accuracy. This would be a huge boon for research -- hell you could start up some hobby work very quickly and (relatively) cheaply since it's such a straight forward process.
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Time to view all news through an Evil filter.
Nice try for these guys coming up with tech. Now the Insurance companies will require one so they can save $50,000 per "hit" on a "predisposed condition".
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Might be time to invest in hard drive manufacturers.
it does not cost $49000 to sequence a human genome. it's cheaper than $1000. this system is more expensive than current models. The difference is that this has some hope of having more headroom to mature. But eventually it's going to come down to whichever method has cheaper pre-processing. in the long run the machines will be cheap.
Hey, (offtopic) was there a story about the terrible situation in Norway?
Yes
Or is it not news for nerds?
Doesnt matter.
Already covered with the Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act.
Valiant attempt sir.
Too bad we don't bother to follow laws anymore.
We're 7 days from economically blowing up our country, so a little "ethics" law won't stop anyone.
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Do you have a link?
I had a look through the recent slashdot stories and did a few searches, but couldn't find it.
Thanks.
This sounds great and all, but can someone please explain to me what this will mean for those that get the test done and have their genome on a flash drive? I can understand yeah you might have male pattern baldness or increased risk of cancer, etc but there are other ways of determining that currently including yearly blood tests and the like.
What will having your genome sequenced actually do for you, today, right now? Why should I pay $1k or even $50k for something like this?
There are at least 8 bases in the DNA sequence and this will be only looking for 4 of them
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/07/110721142408.htm
Not sequencing of course, but checks a whole lot of SNPs. I've been quite happy with the information you can get, and you can download all the data yourself.
Problem is, once you get the sequence, it's hard to know what to do with it.
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It is hard for those of us in genomics to even fathom how this paper was published. It cheapens all of our publications. The sequencing mechanism is exciting- however it is not competitive with any existing technology, has a cumbersome library preparation protocol, produces very small amounts of noisy reads and they charge way too much for the chips and reagents. It will be very surprising if many labs adopt this, it seems like most people are buying them because they are so inexpensive rather than having some use for them. Perhaps with improved lib techniques, better accuracy, and longer reads, it may be viable.
Uhuh, sure. That will be enforced. And Social Security Numbers aren't supposed to be used for public identification of citizens either. Financial institutions often require the number to run a credit check or to reset the password at the myfico.com website. It's often used to verify account holders when speaking to a TSR or CSR of your local cable/phone provider. Though they don't require it as long as you have your account number handy.
No, this law is one of those wink-wink-nod-nod kind of things. You can genetically profile anyone just as long as you don't admit to doing it.
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I feel guilty, all for an "I told you so" that didn't feel all that good in the end.
Sorry Lisa.
"...may unlock the door to ...life itself"
Well, it's about time! The universe has been sitting lifeless for so long, and here we sit, unable to make any!
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For the love of god, don't let one of those machines find its way into the southern United States. Can you imagine what damage it would do to the family trees if they had ironclad proof of how many hillbillies didn't understand that even if they got divorced, they're still brother and sister?
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Did you see Gattaca ? It talked about an act there too... Only nobody cared.
Stop thinking so small. This is actually going to be used to replace the REAL ID. I am sure once they get closer the DHS and DoJ will come in with real money and make it happen. In reference to GATTACA, remember how everyone gained access to everything? DNA sequencing via blood sample.
This will make all forms of physical ID cards obsolete. You carry this around with you all of the time and it cannot be changed or stolen (except how the movie did it). One master, federated DB across all 50 states with ties into an International system and they can instantly identify you all over the world.
Remember 3 billion base pairs, 99.9% are identical across all humans (twins = 100%) on the planet (or so they say). That leaves you with only having to determine the differences in the remaining 3 million pairs. With only 2 options (AT or GC) at 3 million positions, I believe that comes to only 6 billion unique combinations. Thank goodness our worlds populations is less than that. Oh wait...
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That brings up what the real purpose of Insurance is. Is its purpose to level out the risk for everyone no matter what their predisposition to the risk of a loss is? Or is its purpose to level out the risk of a catastrophic loss to an acceptable level among a population with about the same predisposition to suffering the loss? I don't think anyone would argue that in the case of automobile insurance the amount you pay for insurance should reflect the risk and severity of the claims you will probably make on the policy -- otherwise the good drivers will be subsidizing the bad ones. In a pure insurance situation the "good risks" should not generally subsidize the "bad risks". Now for medical insurance we get all squeamish about this principle, especially because some risks are out of the individual's control (heredity) and some lifestyle risks are well within their control. If I have reliable knowledge that I am not a high medical risk for anything at this time, then from a personal financial point of view I would like a medical insurance policy which only includes similar individuals. Do we want to do this as a society -- I don't know. I know for a fact that I don't want my medical insurance premiums subsidizing someone else's risky lifestyle choices. Is it desirable for the "good genetic risks" to subsidize the "bad risks"? -- that is question which needs to be honestly laid out and discussed, no matter how uncomfortable. Clearly some individuals are a priori higher medical risks than others. Saying, "everyone could be a bad risk" is not an honest way to approach it.
I predict that the very first use of this new technology will be a police surveillance device.
The summary says:
A team led by Jonathan Rothberg of Ion Torrent in Guilford, Conn is working on a system which uses semiconductors to decode DNA, dramatically reducing costs and taking them closer to being able to reach the goal of a $1000 human genome test. The current optical based system costs around $49000 and is already on the market and being used in over 40 countries.
Unfortunately this summary is missing two crucial sentences (between the above two) from the article:
Typical DNA sequencing machines use optical technology instead of semi-conductors. While fast, optical technology is expensive and complex.
Without the above sentence, the summary sounds like Ion Torrent sells "[t]he current optical based system" which they do not. (However, it is true that Ion Torrent is part of another company (Life Technologies) that does in fact sell an optics-based system called SOLiD.)
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