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Suggesting Innovative Uses For Retired Space Shuttles
coondoggie writes "It was a sad event when the iconic NASA Space Shuttle program ended last week with the landing of Atlantis. After the last mission the flying shuttles will all be assigned to museums where millions will admire them as static displays. But wouldn't it be cool if they were put to use in places where you might not expect?" (Best viewed with the slide-show consolidating software of your choice.)
useless, uninformative and not even funny. So perfect for Slashdot?
Or at least top ten list material!
How did bullshit like that even make it onto the front page???
Great work, Timmy.
That was the most stupid slideshow ever. Any random "Top Ten" in http://cracked.com/ is better than this drivel. Lame!
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none of them are witty or clever.
The ideas are lame, and the photoshops are particularly bad.
Too bad, it could've been funny if some thought was put into it.
Get this shit off /.
Clearly these national treasures should be shipped to the pacific northwest and mounted atop a large metal dome. After the arrival of the alien mammuths from tau ceti (any day soon), they can be borne aloft by a succession of nuclear explosions and play their role in regaining control of the solar system.
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It's the best thing ever. We finally stopped with the nostalgia and can focus on reality. Space is a dead-end for people. It's a vacuum.
Then post your better suggestions here. My idea is to use them as airport shuttles.
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Jesus Christ, that's not even Fark worthy.
We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion.
Pretty much none of these are actually "cool", except perhaps for the idea about traveling around air show circuits together with the 747. Fake sets of the Space Shuttle would work better for pretty much all of them, although I do have to say using them to line the road would be interesting. Better would be to as one as advertising displays for an Air and Space museum (you know, how they put a fake fighter on a pole. An actual space shuttle would be kinda cool.)
I know it would be impractical/too expensive, but what would be really cool would be launching them into space empty, and putting them into permanent orbit. That would be cool. Perhaps they could even serve as impromptu space stations, but just having them orbiting the Earth forever would be a very fitting retirement. I know, we don't need even more garbage in space, orbits decay, etc. Otherwise, these thing belong in museums, not some kind of advertising for commercial ventures. I mean, come on, a giant Starbucks? Starbucks contributed nothing to space exploration. It would be a horrible abuse of the iconic image for commercial profit to use a shuttle that way.
Now, as part of corporate headquarters for SpaceX... that'd be kinda fitting.
"None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license." --John Milton
One of the things I've deeply enjoyed about /. was NO TOP TEN LISTS. True this is an arty outside of /. but still...
Space shuttles which were built for science. Feel free to call me boring but NO, I don't think turning them into megacorp-feeding commerce icons, hotels or strip clubs is a cool idea. I think it's utterly disrespectful to the time and effort that the people at NASA devoted to them, not to mention distasteful towards the families of the Challenger crew. And I'm not even American. Also, bonus points to the person that rightfully pointed out that picture 4 wasn't a shuttle but a Saturn V.
...don't even bother to click through.
I want the last 30s of my life back.. what a waste of computrons.
We've had actual news worth reporting in Idle, and sh*t like this as newsworthy. Someone take the crack away from the slashdot editors.
The Russians have been doing this with their old Shuttles for years.
...and the images weren't even good/witty photoshops, either. Setting a new standard of mediocrity, I see.
Article is pretty much lame, outlandish photoshopped images of the shuttles.
Who made it through all 12? I could only get to 3, then bleah. Crap, crap, crap.
... just in case we need to send Ben Affleck into space.
...I'm sorry, but I would just HAVE to try and start it.
What a unfunny and useless article! What as waste of time...
They have wheels, rocket engines, and drag parachutes. I say we take Atlantis and Endeavor out to Utah and have the world's most bitchin' drag race.
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in Idle??? or maybe Stupid? Photoshop called...they want their software back. Shoehornjob.
In fact, I think this takes the cake. Can anyone remember a lamer story ever appearing on this site before? Granted, the competition is stiff, but this has got to be the numero uno.
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they are going to museums. Damn, that slideshow was shitty.
How about rescuing Spike Spiegel?
Seriously dude, you're a sack of shit for putting this crap up.
The Russians used their copy to try and hold up the roof of a collapsing warehouse... that didn't work out so well.
Honestly the most useful thing they could do would be a heck of a lot of destructive testing. You could argue they've already been doing that for the past 30 years, at least twice to failure (along with lots of non-mission impacting single engine failures, leaks, etc). I'm talking a little more extreme, for example, chop the wings up and analyze the heck out of them for the effect of orbital radiation on metal fatigue development patterns, etc. The skin runs at a ridiculously high pressurization, like 15 PSI, everything else in aerospace runs 8 psi max, so chop up the crew cabin and analyze that for pressurization related metal fatigue.
You know how civil / mech engineers are supposedly given iron rings made from "X collapsed bridge" at graduation to remind them not to build stupid things, maybe aerospace engineers (or more appropriately, MBAs) should be given o-ring and ceramic tile necklaces?
"Science flies us to the moon. Religion flies us into buildings." - Victor Stenger
I know the space shuttle couldn't be used as a ship for interplanetary travel with a crew, but could an unmanned shuttle serve any purpose -- say as a permanent space station/orbiter around the moon, Mars or some more distant location like Io?
I'm sure there's a lot to count against it, but in their favor, they are paid for -- any retrofit costs would be the only expense, and without the crew and life support requirements the shuttle would lose weight, making it easier to launch beyond earth orbit. But because the shuttle has a lot of extra space, it might make it attractive to add research gear, a daughter satellite/probe, extra fuel, etc.
There's also whatever human space travel research value to be had from simply flying it to Mars and seeing what would happen along the way.
The other idea that occurred to me, why not leave one permanently attached to the ISS? With a crew habitat module, it could have added a lot of extra space to the ISS without the cost of adding another module.
...wicked.
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but then I saw the slide show. What a complete waste for both me, the creator, and whoever posted it.
I can't believe I lost some precious minutes of my time to read this POS.
The shuttles should and will belong to museums, just like Buran, the russian one, to show present-day and future generations the advancements of technology and the scientific achievements of mankind.
And certainly *not* being "desacralized" by being used as a restaurant or an attraction.
he other idea that occurred to me, why not leave one permanently attached to the ISS? With a crew habitat module, it could have added a lot of extra space to the ISS without the cost of adding another module.
I think this one at least has been already put forward, and the answer is "not possible" because hull pressure wasn't engineered to be the same as the ISS and furthermore, the shuttle leaks air too fast (by design) compared to the ISS. It isn't a problem for 2 weeks missions, but it's a liability for becoming part of a station designed to spend years up there as air tight as possible.
I always liked the idea of taking a whole shuttle stack, gutting the rocket and fuel-carrying bits out of it, sticking it on a launch platform and locking it down as a permanent exhibit. Build a gift shop and museum into the exhaust vents- looks big enough to support a sizable shop. I know I'd love to see the shuttle as though it were ready to take to the skies.
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Hell, they're almost perfect containers for hydroponics experiments, and we could start developing horticultural panels for space (well, I've alread done that but getting it to work on shuttle power is another story.)
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
There I wouldn't expect it.
And why the fuck isn't Texas getting one? Coast bias?
Agreed. I'm glad the users here all see it, because I'm losing faith quickly.
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...and whichever politician we vote for gets one to use as a suppository?
How about we use them to launch things into orbit? Since, you know, we could really use something like that.
They built their own version of Discovery in Japan, surrounded by a roller coaster named "Venus GP" (in a park named "Space World")
http://rcdb.com/1195.htm?p=7246
http://rcdb.com/1195.htm?p=7247
The first picture has been my desktop image for years.
Here are the titles, verbatim, for their ten "ideas" (I use the term loosely, since these seem to me more like the brain's equivalent of vomiting). The parenthetical statements are my summaries for when their titles may not be sufficient to understand what they meant.
1) A shuttle hotel
2) A gigantic Starbucks
3) SpaceWorld water park
4) Cadillac ranch (stand them on their nose in a line for display)
5) Stunts-R-Us (hire it out as a stunt plane)
6) Corporate team leader (pay former astronauts to do team building exercises in it)
7) The Dark Side of the Moon Theatre (laser lights and a theater setup)
8) The Tang restaurant (a space-themed restaurant)
9) Parabolic Curves (a strip club with zero-g dance poles, but no mention of how zero-g is achieved)
10) Traveling salvation show (piggyback it on the 747 and fly it in air shows to raise money for NASA)
I have no idea how this ended up on /.
At first I thought Idle has turned itself back on for some reason...
Seriously, WTF is this doing in the science section?
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We need to stop linking to Network World, their content tends to be HuffPo-esque rehashes of press releases and garbage "listicles" like this.
Network World: Just say no.
There's no -1 for "I don't get it."
Agreed that this story was fluff but what I found most interesting and possibly useful is the "slide-show consolidating software." I was not aware of such a tool.
Before anyone has a kneejerk lmgtfy response, I tried already -- the majority of hits for "slide-show consolidating software" on the first page refer back to this slashdot article (actually, I used google instead of lmgtfy). If such a thing exists and works with flash slideshows as well the other types (html, javascript, others?) that would be the silver lining in this otherwise crud article.
How about this? It hasn't happend before, that a badly flying plane was put into space. Put some rockets under it and push it up. Let's see, what might happen.
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For a while now I've been wondering why their final destination was Earth rather than the ISS itself. Are there any specific reasons why a space shuttle could not serve as a permanent external longterm storage facility attached somewhere on the station?
and for timothy to be fired. Is that too much to ask!?
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Rollercoasters.
sad ... why is this wasting our time ?
Firstly by this 'article's very existence, and secondly by being linked to it from slashdot? This is making me reconsider my web browsing patterns entirely.
If there's no one on it, it can be so much lighter that it makes sense to make something else. All that fuel we spend to send the thing into orbit costs a fortune.
Not that wasn't in idle. Which is where this belongs.
The preferred solution is to not have a problem.
FUCKING STUPID
Why is it that most of the people that I encounter seem to have been shat from the Sphincter of Mediocrity?
Exactly... start it, fly it, and use it as an orbiter or even a spacecraft.
Can't we just launch it one last time, and use it as a vehicle to get to Mars or something? It seems perfectly suited for the job. It has a cargo bay for a lander. It is big enough to live in (astronauts do that all the time, although not for many months at a time).
I know this isn't as easy as I make it sound... but hell, if you already have a space shuttle in orbit, isn't it just a matter of taking enough fuel with you?
The external shuttle tank contains about 750,000 kg of fuel. At a price of about 2500 $/kg to Low Earth Orbit ( http://www.futron.com/upload/wysiwyg/Resources/Whitepapers/Space_Transportation_Costs_Trends_0902.pdf ), the price tag of having a fully fueled space shuttle in orbit is 1 launch of the shuttle, plus 2 billion dollar in fuel costs.
Can anyone remember a lamer story ever appearing on this site before?
Obviously you haven't been here on on every April 1st since ever. Tis a dark day best avoided by all slashdotters.
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It's clearly an advertisement submission by Michael Cooney, Online New Editor for Network World, Inc. I hope /. at least got paid for posting this drivel.
In over 10 years of reading /., this has to be the lamest story I've ever seen.
I was not touched there by an angel.
Sell off little pieces for collectors of the space shuttle at 50$ for a piece.....certified by NASA, and let them get back major money for all the expenditures they have done over the years on it. Include all the spare parts that they no longer need, they could actually get a fair bit of money back....so technically could even help other projects they might have needing some funding.