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Bitcoin Is Not Anonymous

An anonymous reader writes "Researchers from University College Dublin have conducted an analysis of anonymity on Bitcoin, and found it is not inherently anonymous, and that in many cases, users and their transactions can be identified. They use techniques such as context discovery and flow analysis to investigate and visualize an alleged theft of Bitcoins, which, at the time of the theft, had a market value of approximately half a million U.S. dollars."

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  1. Bitcoin is the new Twitter! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Bitcoin in the new Twitter. No matter how many times you post about it, there's still only a dozen people who care.

  2. Half a million dollars to whom? by Viol8 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I wouldn't give you jack for them. Can I pay my utility bills with them? No. Can I may my mortgage with them? No. Can I go into most shops or online stores and buy stuff with them? No.

    They're nothing more than a financial toy for people to play around with and waste energy on GPU calculations which they justify by reeling off a list of websites no one has heard of where you can buy useless crap with them.

    1. Re:Half a million dollars to whom? by alex67500 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Top-Posting? On Slashdot? Isn't there a special spam/fool filter removing this kind of lower people?

    2. Re:Half a million dollars to whom? by vlm · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Just on the off chance that you're not lying, what utility, mortgage lender, and shops accept Bitcoin in payment?

      All of them. Just like none of them technically will accept my payment using payroll and dividend checks with my name on them, yet I've always managed to pay my creditors anyway with a couple extra steps. I once got some cash for selling something on craigslist, and I spent that cash at the food store, and thats possibly the only time in my life I've directly received and spent money without the financial industrial complex making a commission off me.

      I can convert BTC into $ faster, easier, and with lower fees than any other currency. Not any other digital currency, but any currency... at all. I can actually convert BTC into $ with lower fees than I can convert small change into bills using that "coin-star-change" kiosk thingy at the food store. It is absolutely insane that its cheaper, faster, and easier to convert digital money into paper money dollars than convert coins into paper money.

      I recently purchased some cool ham radio microwave electronics kits/pcbs/components from a "well known" (in the business) company in Australia. I'm building a ham radio propagation beacon using some of their weirder subassemblies combined with some weird subassemblies I already own, which is why I tolerate dealing with an island on the other side of the planet instead of off the shelf from locals like DEMI or making my own stuff from mouser and minicircuits. Anyway it was a freaking nightmare to pay them thru paypal, probably intentionally done by paypal to encourage us to use ebay and make them even more fees, but after a week of agony we're both finally happy, they got my dough and I got my parts and paypal made way the heck too much money off this transaction, for what little they did. If I ever purchase from .au again, its gonna be via a friend in .au who I will pay in BTC. Paying double postage is still cheaper than paying paypal, and being a friend in the hobby he can merely add my order to his existing order(s), so it's not really double postage anyway. Even if I round up and let him keep the change, I'd rather give my money to a buddy than to paypal.

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    3. Re:Half a million dollars to whom? by tompaulco · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Hear! Hear! There are literally millions of things in the world that I care absolutely nothing about, but would still consider purchasing at the right price in order to sell them to fools who are willing to pay more than I can get it for plus consideration for time and transaction costs.
      Bitcoin happens to be one of those things for me. I mine bitcoin, but I don't hold onto it hoping it will make me rich, and I don't care if it ever takes off as a currency. I just get a nice paycheck when I cash them in to someone else.
      I used to be a futures trader. I had no interest in a railcar full of cattle, or a boxcar full of corn, yet at any given time I might have held contracts for dozens or hundreds of both. Their was no intent to do anything with the underlying commodities, just a desire to hopefully sell the contract for more than I bought it for.
      And if we want to completely remove the physical tie, I also used to trade in foreign currencies. We didn't care what any particular currency could buy, just whether we expected it to go up or down relative to another currency. Holding Yen was the same as holding Bitcoin. I can't pay my mortgage with Yen, or my utilities, without exchanging it to U.S. Dollars.

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  3. Slashdot and Bitcoin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In order to analyse whetehr Slashdot is overly preoccupied with Bitcoin, I have conducted a rigorous scientific analysis. My methodology relies on the key fact that Google knows everything. To draw on the wisdom of Google, I typed slashdot into my Google search bar. The results are revealing:

    Google suggests (in this order):
    slashdot
    slashdot rss
    slashdotted
    slashdot wiki
    slashdot bitcoin

    Phrases such as "slashdot linux", "slashdot news" and "slashdot " did not appear.

    I'm still working on the conclusions.

    1. Re:Slashdot and Bitcoin by jandrese · · Score: 3, Informative

      Are you sure you didn't do a search for bitcoins yourself earlier? Google will remember that. I tried the same autocomplete query just now and only got:

      slashdot rss
      slashdot effect
      slashdot reader
      slashdot.org
      slashdot wiki

      No bitcoin mentions on the first page either.

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      I read the internet for the articles.
    2. Re:Slashdot and Bitcoin by kaizendojo · · Score: 3, Informative

      I could care less about Bitcoin, and have NEVER searched for it, and my results were identical to the OPs. Just saying.

  4. Re:Scaaam.... by DigiShaman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's much worse. It's pushing the value of time and energy over to other commodities needed to power the servers. Think coal and natural gas power generation. We simply don't have the renewables in place to offset and eventually lower the cost per kw. That will tens of years if anything. If instead it was crunching numbers for research such as Folding@Home, I can see human value in that. But to pull megawatts of power to essentially run a scam is really bad. Of course, one could say the same for the high frequency trading server infrastructure as well.

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  5. I wish... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    People need to learn the difference between anonymity and pseudonymity. Bitcoin is not anonymous, and neither are so many other things mistakenly labeled anonymous.

    In the context of Slashdot:

    AC == Anonymous
    handle == pseudonymous
    handle linked to meatspace identity == identified

    Pseudonymous actions are those where an arbitrary identifier (handle, public key fingerprint, assigned account number) completely replaces the meatspace identity a person has been assigned by government.

    Pseudonymous actions by a specific identifier (such as as Bitcoin key) can be linked to other actions by that identifier.

    Anonymous actions have no primary key linking together events by a person or group of persons acting in concert.

    An anonymous payment would be something like cash in the mail, so long as the envelope is devoid of any identifer, assigned or pseudo, which could connect that envelope and its contents to another action by the person who sent it.

  6. Re:Scaaam.... by subreality · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That energy is actually put to a good use - it provides security for the block chain against double-spending attacks, by making them computationally infeasible. And it gives pretty good value for the money: as far as costs go for a payment-processing network, it's damned cheap compared to what Visa or Paypal charges.

    Yes, early adopters come out well. That's true in any venture. But at the end of the day, that doesn't mean it won't be useful as a payment processing network. The amount that early adopters will get out of this utterly pales in comparison to what the big financial corporations are raping you for.

    If you think THIS is a scam, read up more on fractional-reserve banking. The debt-driven US dollar is the biggest ponzi scheme ever.

  7. So, who is the thief? by Teppy · · Score: 3, Interesting
    The article does all sorts of graph theory visualizations about the well-known 25k BTC theft, tracking flows of Bitcoins from one address to another to prove Bitcoin is not anonymous.

    What they fail to do is identify the thief!

    Perhaps the margin of their paper was too small to include the thief's name.

    1. Re:So, who is the thief? by andrewd18 · · Score: 3, Insightful
      From the comments in TFA, as written by one of the authors:

      We don't set out to to de-anonymise the thief - we are researchers, not law enforcement, and we are just using that as an example to show its possible to trace the flow of Bitcoins around the network.

      It is possible to use Bitcoin in a way that is almost certainly anonymous, in the same way it is possible to get almost certain anonymity on the Internet, by using encryption, onion routing, and never associating your identity with your actions.

      Our point is that you don't get this anonymity automatically, and that most casual users of Bitcoin may not be anonymous, even though many of them may believe they are.

      The system looks more anonymous than it is.

      This, of course, is something we've already discussed ad nauseum here. :)

  8. Re:Scaaam.... by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Funny

    I generate my bitcoins on a rack of servers powered by Solar panels and enslaved squirrels on treadmills you insensitive clod!

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  9. Re:Scaaam.... by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is exactly how all pyramid schemes work.

    Bitcoin might as well be called amway-coin.

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  10. Re:Scaaam.... by subreality · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What would you have it be, then? If you gave out proportionately more BTC as the number of users grow, the inflation would be insane. So it's 500 BTC per hour, divided among everyone. Yeah, as the number of people grows, your slice becomes tiny. Now you have to earn (or exchange earned money for) bitcoins. Why is it shocking to have to earn your currency?

    Bitcoin at its core isn't about making money through mining. It's about having a currency that gets rid of a lot of the disadvantages of current paper currency and payment processing systems. The rapid growth of people participating is making it much more valuable in that regard. You only get "next to nothing" if you were looking for a free handout. For the rest of us, it's a way to actually buy goods and services. For me, the advantage is I dislike and distrust Paypal, and I very much welcome a replacement that isn't tied to yet another flimsy or greedy company.

  11. Re:Scaaam.... by JoeMerchant · · Score: 4, Funny

    The debt-driven US dollar is the biggest ponzi scheme ever.

    It's not a ponzi scheme if EVERYBODY plays.