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Mozilla Building Android Based Mobile OS

Posted by CmdrTaco on from the works-for-me dept.

karthikmns writes "The Firefox Mozilla has taken a step to develop an all new OS for mobile platforms. This internet browser giant has launched a Boot 2 Gecko(B2G) project. Similar to Firefox B2G is also an open source project which aims to clean up mobile fragmentation."

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  1. Dupe. by jra · · Score: 5, Informative

    Pay attention, editors.

    1. Re:Dupe. by goldspider · · Score: 2

      It's not a dupe if it immediately follows an iProduct flamefest article.

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    2. Re:Dupe. by Desler · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's worse than that. It's a blogspam dupe. The submitter is just trying to drive clicks to their "hoow" stuff works blog.

    3. Re:Dupe. by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2

      It's worse than that - TFS is broken English and not even proofread.

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    4. Re:Dupe. by interkin3tic · · Score: 2

      I think it's a big deal that Mozilla decided to make TWO independent OSes, both with the exact same goals, and both with even the same name, "Boot to Gecko." Why -not- have two news stories for each of the two identical projects?

    5. Re:Dupe. by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      well, it's only fitting to dupe the project then since they're just creating more fragmentation, with a stupid technology approach.

        first, there's already a open source based browser on the system, second, js/gekko is a stupid approach. third the system chosen is android because it's relatively easy to add hooks to phone calling, message reading etc. but why the fuck? I seriously hope that none of donated money is going to this shitfest of career advancement for some wanabe ui experts. how anyone could claim this would HELP with mobile fragmentation I don't get, except that you could install this on any android. yo dawg we heard you like layers so we put a layer under c++ under your java-layer running on your linux.

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    6. Re:Dupe. by PCM2 · · Score: 1

      first, there's already a open source based browser on the system

      Have you ever actually USED the open source browser on Android? I'm using it right now from a Honeycomb tablet, and it's pretty painful. Pages render strangely, the auto-fit function seems to kick in even when it's disabled, it's slow, the bookmark UI is awful... I don't understand how Google can have one perfectly good browser and make another that's so pathetically lousy. Not saying Boot to Gecko is the way to fix that, but some competition in this regard would be desirable.

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    7. Re:Dupe. by hawkinspeter · · Score: 1

      Try the Dolphin browser - it's a lot better

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    8. Re:Dupe. by AmberBlackCat · · Score: 1

      They probably have to run a new copy of the article as many times as Google, Mozilla, or whoever the sponsor is, has paid them to do.

    9. Re:Dupe. by drb226 · · Score: 1

      The Firefox Mozilla has taken a step...

      Only a few words into TFS and your point is proven.

  2. A 24 hour dupe. by CannonballHead · · Score: 1

    Wow. :)

  3. Isn't that just Android then? by Kenja · · Score: 2

    Isn't an "Android based OS" called Android? And cleaning up mobile fragmentation is a laugh as XKCD pointed out. You'll just end up with yet another competing "standard".

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    1. Re:Isn't that just Android then? by gandhi_2 · · Score: 1

      Is a "Unix based OS" always called "Unix"?

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    2. Re:Isn't that just Android then? by neowolf · · Score: 1

      My thoughts exactly. How would this help clean up mobile fragmentation? Develop yet another mobile platform?!?! Will it allow the same level of bloat that Firefox does?

    3. Re:Isn't that just Android then? by ByOhTek · · Score: 1

      That XKCD was the first thing I thought when reading TFS...

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    4. Re:Isn't that just Android then? by hazydave · · Score: 1

      I do know of a Kernel called Linux.. but an OS? Where do I find this... and when did Linus get so busy and toss out all the GNU and other GPL/FOSS code?

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  4. If this goes through... by kakyoin01 · · Score: 1

    ...we would no doubt see version 11 or 12 of this OS by the end of this year (regardless of whether or not it was released in said year).

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  5. Yeah, we know by Desler · · Score: 1

    Yeah we know. You already posted this 14 hours ago.

  6. Still on the front page by Dunbal · · Score: 2

    The dupe is still on the front page. Sometimes I wonder why I even bother. It's not like the editors do.

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    1. Re:Still on the front page by kakyoin01 · · Score: 1

      Slashdot is not a right, it's a service. Cut the editors some slack. I suppose we should be angry that they post so often so we can get off our lazy asses and learn about the news, then?

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    2. Re:Still on the front page by Desler · · Score: 1

      Cut the editors some slack.

      Yeah, poor guys are so overworked and underpaid. Must be why they can't even bother to do basic editing of the shit they post.

    3. Re:Still on the front page by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      funny, I thought slashdot was a means of making money for a small group of people that works because so many of us (a large group of people) read articles and moreover contribute them. You seem to be rebuking the large group of people for complaining about quality.

    4. Re:Still on the front page by kakyoin01 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, poor guys are so overworked and underpaid. Must be why they can't even bother to do basic editing of the shit they post.

      And you complaining about this is going to help...how?

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    5. Re:Still on the front page by Desler · · Score: 1

      By pointing out to them that people aren't satisfied with their laziness?

    6. Re:Still on the front page by kakyoin01 · · Score: 1

      Actually, I'm saying that mentioning that this is a duplication more than once (and taking the time to bash /. in the process) is...wait for it...a duplication. No way! And a rather pointless one at that.

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    7. Re:Still on the front page by Desler · · Score: 1

      Far less pointless than someone who gets all worked up and whiny over it.

    8. Re:Still on the front page by kakyoin01 · · Score: 1

      Both of them are becoming very pointless. Agree to disagree, and help make the internet a better place.

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    9. Re:Still on the front page by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      See the asterisk by my name? That means I pay for slashdot. If I don't like something about a service I subscribe to I will damned well say so.

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    10. Re:Still on the front page by kakyoin01 · · Score: 1

      Thanks, I didn't know that until now. Forgive me for being wet behind the ears here.

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    11. Re:Still on the front page by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      Some of us still hold to the flickering, nearly-extinguished candle-flame of hope that the slashdot editors would someday take notice of their user's complaints, and then attempt to improve the quality of their product

    12. Re:Still on the front page by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      I actually have another ID more than 12 years old, but can't remember it. was off slashdot for a few years in early 21st century

  7. Oh, goody... by geminidomino · · Score: 1

    Can't wait to see how the bugger up the UI on that one now. Of course, it probably won't compile until version 43 though.

    1. Re:Oh, goody... by Tackhead · · Score: 1

      Can't wait to see how the bugger up the UI on that one now. Of course, it probably won't compile until version 43 though.

      The Mozilla team has heard the complaints from Firefox users, and now we're pleased to annouce that Mozillaroid 43 For Tablets now features a full desktop-style UI, featuring seven toolbars at the top of the screen, and not one, but two status bars at the bottom of each screen.

      Users unhappy with the changes in Mozillaroid 43 For Tablets are free to install "1080p4evar", "minimalism", and "toolbarbgone" extensions as soon as compatibility updates have been completed. (Note that Mozilla is not responsible for any memory leakage behaviors associated with third-party plug-ins, add-ons, and extensions.)

      Users who find Mozillaroid 43 For Tablets unsuitable, even with minimalist UX extensions, are encouraged to try Firefox 9 For Desktops, for which the status bar, menu bar, URL bar, search box, window borders, and scroll bar have been removed since Firefox 8. In fact, the only things left in Firefox's desktop browser UI are four icons: the Google logo, the Firefox logo, a musical note, and a pair of boobs.

    2. Re:Oh, goody... by LighterShadeOfBlack · · Score: 1

      Of course, it probably won't compile until version 43 though.

      So, what... about two weeks?

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  8. more than just a dupe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    not only is this a dupe. look at the link address. "hoow" stuff works. it's a made for adsense blogspot account.

    1. Re:more than just a dupe by Desler · · Score: 1

      Yep, it's the submitter's own blog. It's not just a dupe it's blogspam dupe.

  9. Cleaning up fragmentation of Os by denisbergeron · · Score: 2

    With a new fork OS ....

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    1. Re:Cleaning up fragmentation of Os by Svartalf · · Score: 1

      Heh... I'm asking, "What the fork?" myself...

      It's a new OS basing itself off of the Linux kernel that Android's using- which is un-needed.

      - You don't need to use Bionic for what they're doing- glibc will suffice. Especially if you're not allowing native code.
      - You don't need the IPC framework Android's using- or any of the other deviations to the kernel. You could use the mainline Linux kernel for this. Really.

      Gotta wonder what they're smoking in their pipe there. Let's just fragment the hell out of things a little bit more for something that won't get very far if they don't back down from the "no native code" position. I don't care HOW fast their engine is- javascript will be slower than Java/Dalvik, which is 10-40% slower than native code.

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  10. Obligatory XKCD by j1976 · · Score: 1

    http://xkcd.com/927/

  11. Spam, but not really a dup ... by BitZtream · · Score: 2

    I mean, yes, technically it is a dupe, and its obviously adwords spam that Taco should have stopped (I think he lets timothy post using his account now) ...

    But its the first time I've seen this story on slashdot. Its not a dupe for me simply because I've blocked several of the retarded editors, one of which approved the previous submission of this story.

    So yea, it is technically a dupe, but an expected one since most people avoid whatever douche bag editor posted the previous version. Seems though that Taco now needs to be added to the douche bag editor list for contributing spam himself.

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  12. We had to destroy the OS to save it... by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 1

    So they plan to "clean up fragmentation" by introducing yet another incompatible OS? Just like Firefox (which I use) has become the one true browser? My guess is this OS will be stillborne given it doesn't have any major company (with buckets of dollars) supporting it and it introduces yet another development platform but eschews some standard tools such as Java. I tried to get more info off of mozilla.org but no mention of Boot2 gecko.

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    1. Re:We had to destroy the OS to save it... by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      *Lest you think this is just another Android phone with custom UI over it, think again—Mozilla has boldly said they won't be adopting the Java language used in Android, nor will they support native code programming.* some fucks(wanabe ui expert workers, you know, unemployed) just want to create ui concepts on mobile using gecko.

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  13. What??? by lennier1 · · Score: 1

    An Mozilla-related OS?

    Just lookat Firefox. The damn thing will be slow as hell and probably need a terabyte of RAM just to finish the boot-up process.

  14. Really?? by Svartalf · · Score: 1

    No native code? Sorry, guys...that's a Fail. Even the other JavaScript-like framework allows some native code because you're not going to get games and other push the envelope code to work well with things.

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  15. Why not MeeGo? by Sentry360 · · Score: 1

    What I don't understand is why they didn't go with MeeGo? Nokia has been playing nice with Mozilla since the n770, and has undoubtedly had some of the most impressive versions of Mozila/Firefox Mobile. Why not use this code/relationship and help build a really nice OS, instead of some one of Linux implementation to appease the carriers...

    1. Re:Why not MeeGo? by Desler · · Score: 1

      Because they are fighting OS fragmentation by... rolling their own OS.

  16. Amazing Summary by psydeshow · · Score: 1

    All hail The Firefox Mozilla, which will clean up mobile fragmentation using open source!

    I thought that this was the worst /. summary I'd read in a while.

    But then I considered the quality of code and product development coming out of the Mozilla Foundation these days. I think that six months from now, this summary will be in better shape than the project it describes. So, well done, karthikmns!

  17. Lifted from Gizmodo by BcNexus · · Score: 1

    The article linked to is lifted from Gizmodo, word for word. Check the "From" link on the linked to site, and you'll see.

    1. Re:Lifted from Gizmodo by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 1

      It also doesn't help that it implies Seabird has anything to do with B2G or is even a real idea. It was just a "wouldn't it be cool?" mockup. No one has plans for anything remotely resembling it.

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