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29 Universities Seek High-Speed Networks
An anonymous reader sends this quote from USA Today:
"The University of Missouri announced Wednesday it is joining an effort by some of the country's top colleges to build 'ultra' high-speed data networks in their local communities. The project is known as Gig.U: The University Community Next Generation Innovation Project. The 29 participating schools include Arizona State, Duke, Florida, Michigan, New Mexico, North Carolina, South Florida and Wake Forest University. The Aspen Institute, a Colorado-based nonprofit, initiated the effort. The schools and their local partners will solicit proposals from telecommunications companies in their area. They hope to quickly build high-speed broadband networks in communities with low unemployment and heavy demand for such services."
Lower your damn tuition.
"They hope to quickly build high-speed broadband networks in communities with low unemployment and heavy demand for such services."
Finally, someone willing to make actual progress instead of being held back by being an all inclusive club...
PORN!
One only knows given the current environment in the gov's office and with AT&T writing the legislation that such an idea is not possible here.
This is needed more than most people think. In a lot of college towns, ISPs are terrible and in some of the smaller towns there isn't any 3G to speak of. And the same problem persists even in medium-sized state schools which have a moderately to large sized computer science program.
Taxation is legalized theft, no more, no less.
The *AA will be after you. After all, fast internet is the breeding ground for pirates.
I was initially excited by this as I thought I might be able to get in on it -- however, this looks to be more along the lines of a business partnership (i.e., businesses can pay for the fiber, and the universities will provide the net access.
I find it pretty hilarious that Aspen Group find it necessary to demand some type of initiative for the rich and powerful. Fucking assholes up there in the rich hills of Colorado should seriously consider the lower to middle class instead of their rich friends funding their parties (Google for what they do when they get together, its elitism at a level of terrorism to the environment up there).
How about we figure out how to start making things again, instead of being a purely information and service society and outsourcing to China for our hard goods? What good is a high speed wire if there is no one who has an income to purchase it?
With super low use caps..
---- Booth was a patriot ----
"bringing mass manufacturing back to the United States, but it is gone for good."
Do you study history AT ALL? Do you see the trend in the dollar's value? Do I need to continue?
Better yet, why not visit an American car dealership and examine the merchandise.
Creating more prosperity and a bigger tax base WILL lower the tuition.
You really think that the "future" of this country is a population who are all IP creators? We don't even have enough jobs for 20% the existing ones, much less the remainder, and then the REST of the population.
Step away from the video game, you don't live in the real world.
Texas A&M's version uses barbed wire.
"in communities with low unemployment"
What the heck does low unemployment have to do with super high speed access?
>They hope to quickly build high-speed broadband networks in communities with low unemployment and heavy demand for such services So they're getting into the telecom business? And they expect the people they will compete with to build it for them? I smell agenda... uh uh... money... uh uh... opportunity! Yeah! That's it.
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Hopefully it won't be horribly overtaxed, logged, tracked, and badly structured like most campus internet services. I actually trust the telcos more than I do universities when it comes to running a proper network.
Great Intellect...
Those communities can pay for it and have valid uses for it such as telecommuting.
There is little return in providing broadband for the ghetto or trailer park. They already have television.
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Universities don't even make movies, why should they need sufficient bandwidth to seed?
It can be done, just look whats going on in the Uk and around the rest of the world when it comes to High-Speed Networks, America is years behind the rest of the world when it comes to IT (Information Technology) Americans also need to know there are other free operating systems that faster, stable, and secure, that doesn't crash, freeze up or gets windows viruses. I'm not talking about Mac OS/x here, Both windows and Mac are proprietary operating systems both are a wast of time
Do a Google search for FLOSS (Free Linux Open Source Software) Visit Distrowatch dot com there you will find the latest free July 2011 distribution
"They hope to quickly build high-speed broadband networks in communities with low unemployment and heavy demand for such services."
LOL, for a second there, I thought they were going to pull some communist shit, like giving basic broadband to people who have none.
Where do you find the best prices on stuff? Online, not in the store.. the in store prices are higher (except Circuit City before they closed up.. the last year or so they had the same price in all stores and on the web).
How are a lot of services done now? Online. The yellow pages here no long publish people's phone numbers (mostly because of people switching numbers, moving, and the biggest.. cell phones). So if I want to find someone's number now, it's either 611 or (local exchange + 5252 or whatever) if people even know/remember about those options anymore.. otherwise it's check online to see if they have a land line and if it's listed.
Finding business? Yes, you can look in the "phone book" if you have one or haven't lost it, but again online.
Online classes are cheaper and you can do at your own pace, good for single parents or those who work a full time job or more.
Now could they use standard, cheap DSL to do all this? Yes, but I think by the Universities helping out the local ISP's by providing the higher speeds, it's more of an incentive to expand into these areas and help customers who normally couldn't afford it
Indonesia universities already got their own high-speed data networks since 2006
http://inherent-dikti.net/
Seriously. What became of that?
I'm sorry. This opportunity doesn't come along very often, so I need to exploit it now.
The current front-page article here on /. titled "Foxconn To Employ 1 Million Robots" screams LISTEN TO CHILL on this thread. :-)
Learning HOW to think is more important than learning WHAT to think.
If you are unemployed you've got lots of time to surf the internet. Why waste bandwidth on people who won't have time to use it.
That's what I thought - that this was about more universities to get on the Internet2 network. The speeds being offered are 100GiB/s That's some 100 times faster than your normal LAN connections, but it's being offered on a WAN. The reason they want it is that when they're studying high performance computing, it includes distributed computing, and going by Amdahl's law about the slowest part of a system being the bottleneck, they want to speed this up so that it's no slower than, say the PCI bus. Given that there will be a lot of traffic on such a network when so many nodes would share it, the tendency would be to maximize it, so that nobody can claim that the network is a bottleneck, and that any idle CPU on the network can be used to do jobs requested from another node on it.
If that's what's involved, the motivation simply is all these universities wanting to enable the lab aspect of their high performance computing research. But for this sort of rates, seems to me like they'd all need dedicated fiber. But Internet2 does need to get on IPv6 fast, or the next thing they'll be complaining about will be IPv4 address exhaustion.
I agree w/ you - foreign policy expenses - particularly maintaining embassies in unfriendly countries, as well as foreign aid - should all end (despite claims from some that they are only a minuscule part of the budget) Not only for the reasons you mentioned, but also b'cos a lot of this goes to downright hostile countries like Pakistan and Egypt, and ends up w/ people who hate the West anyway. So end it, and just use it first to cover the deficit/reduce the debt, and then on things like these.
Honestly, I think the Universities themselves, or at best, the states/localities ought to be spending this money, and not the dept of education.