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US Patent Regime Is Absurd

An anonymous reader writes in with an opinion piece in the Economist about the the effects of patent trolling on the US economy. The author argues that the U.S. patent regime is causing the U.S. essentially to harm itself. Things have gotten so bad that paying for protection is par for the course.

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  1. Stole my idea by Toe,+The · · Score: 5, Funny

    The idea of patents being bad for the economy is MY intellectual property.

    I'm suing the author, the poster (meaning everyone who has ever posted as anon), and Slashdot.

    1. Re:Stole my idea by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Funny

      The idea of patents being bad for the economy is MY intellectual property.

      Then you might want to send a cease and desist to President Obama. In his remarks to the press today, he mentioned "patent reform" as part of his agenda for the next 14 months.

      We'll see what comes of it, but I've got the feeling we're going to be seeing hearing a little more media coverage of the issue of patent reform, at least until the next celebrity overdose or semi-attractive white woman on trial for murder.

      It'll be interesting to see how the anti-US government Fox News covers the story. Patents seem to be the very definition of "big government" and all "intellectual property" is "anti-free market".

      I say, "Get the government out of our business and do away with all patents, copyrights and trademarks. We don't need no stinkin' Big Government to be involved with their job-killing regulations and picking winners and losers by giving patents.

      We'll see if FreedomWorks and the Chamber of Commerce gets behind THAT anti-government message.

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  2. In closely related news ... by dkleinsc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Human genes can be legally patented, according to a Federal Appeals court.

    Now, the difference here is that the genes are isolated from the body as a whole, but it seems like we're not too far from being in breach of patent every time we get it on.

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  3. Podcast about this by MrEricSir · · Score: 5, Informative

    The often-wonderful This American Life show covered this topic quite recently. They tried to find out what the deal was with Intellectual Ventures and their ilk, and made some surprising discoveries. (I don't want to give away any spoilers.)

    You can listen to a podcast of the show here:
    http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/441/when-patents-attack

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  4. Re:US Patent Regime Is Absurd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You're missing the point. It's not that the patent system in the US is absurd...almost everyone here will acknowledge that. The story here is that a major publication like the Economist is taking that stance. When it's a bunch of nerds in an online forum whining about it, nothing will ever change. When it hits the mainstream, the politicians have to take notice.

  5. Re:Regime by Swanktastic · · Score: 4, Funny

    Those Fascists who run the Patent office are a bunch of Commies...

  6. They should call it the "Wright-Effect" by tp1024 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The Wright brothers may have been the first to build airplanes that could be adequately controlled and sure they patented it. However, the Americans were the only nation who didn't have operational airplanes during WWI because the patent protection basically prevented improvements of the flaws in the Wright brother's patent protected design. They ended up buying French airplanes instead.

    1. Re:They should call it the "Wright-Effect" by Daniel_Staal · · Score: 3, Interesting

      And no current airplanes are direct decedents of the Wright brother's planes. All current planes are derived from competing models that didn't violate the Wright brother's patents.

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  7. Doesn't matter by Hatta · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The US government plainly does not care whether their policies make sense, or help the people they ostensibly intend to. All that matters is that the right people get kickbacks and that politicians get reelected.

    See the War on Drug Users. This has always been an absurd effort. There has never been an honest argument in favor of criminalizing drugs, and every effort to define a rational policy(from LaGuardia in 1939 to the present day) has recommended decriminalization. Still, the US has waged war on its own citizens for decades, refusing to even allow serious discussion on alternative policies.

    You can expect to see the same here. There will be a war on patent infringers and a war on copyright infringers. They will be devastating to individual liberties, and they will be a drag on our economy. Still, the US will not consider alternatives, and will even put the full force of the US propaganda machine against those who do.

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  8. Too much rhetoric over the wrong things. by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It is true that software patents, such as the one mentioned in the article, should never have been allowed in the first place. They have done almost nothing but damage.

    But aside from the bad decision of allowing software patents, the big problem has been the apparent incompetence of the Patent Office itself: issuing patents for things it never should have (because of things like prior art for example).

    If we want to have rational debate about the matter, we have to distinguish between bad laws (software patents), and bad administration of good laws (just about all the rest).

    Other than the software patent ruling, the system per se isn't flawed. It has just been badly administered, and in some cases abused. Those are not the same things.

    If you're playing poker, and somebody cheats (or fumbles while dealing the cards), that is not a flaw in the rules of poker. Similarly, the fact that our "patent system" is currently being abused in some cases and badly implemented in others is not a flaw in "the system", per se. It's just failure of the responsible parties to do it properly. There is a rather big difference.

  9. Case in point by msclrhd · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Let's look at two areas of technology: video quality and JavaScript performance.

    With video quality, the relevant technologies for modern techniques are patented. This means that competing products are of a poorer quality or are artificially restricted. The companies that hold the patents are less likely to innovate and build on their existing work (except to create more patents), so the state of the art gets held back and is slow to advance.

    Now with JavaScript performance, take a look at the competition between Chrome, Firefox, Safari, Opera and Internet Explorer. All these products are competing against each other without resorting to patents. The net result is that you end up with faster JavaScript on all products, allowing for more advanced and interactive websites to be used. It also makes the competitors (Firefox and Internet Explorer) to improve and advance as the other products compete for user share. The net result is that the users of all web browsers benefit and the technology advances rapidly.

    So which one is better for innovation?

  10. Re:The Economist? by MetalliQaZ · · Score: 4, Informative

    Copyright isn't absurd the way software patents are.

    Pretty much everyone, including OSS software developers, desire the benefits of copyright. The way that the MPAA/RIAA goes about enforcement is definitely out of control, but the fundamental issue is okay.

    Software patents, on the other hand, are (at least) well in the the grey area surrounding "what should be patentable". A business process, a mathematical formula, a procedure, an idea? How ethereal can something be and still be someone's property?

    The MAFIAA are trying to change the rules to suit their own interests. Patent trolls, on the other hand, are functioning just fine with the rules the way they are.

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  11. Re:The Toe by jefe7777 · · Score: 3, Funny

    There is no problem with having multiple patents covering the same idea.

    Guess again! I have a patent on multiple patents covering the same idea.

    Pay up bitches!

  12. Re:Or not by tp1024 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Patents that they were incapable of enforcing. Also, back then airplanes were disassembled and transported in boxes.

    Also see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wright_brothers_patent_war

    The Wrights' preoccupation with the legal issue hindered their development of new aircraft designs, and by 1911 Wright aircraft were inferior to those made by other firms in Europe.[9] Indeed, aviation development in the US was suppressed to such an extent that when the U.S. entered World War I no acceptable American-designed aircraft were available, and the U.S. forces were compelled to use French machines.