Facebook: We Have Proof Ceglia's Contract Is Fake
An anonymous reader writes "Facebook says it has found the proof that shows Paul Ceglia, a man that claims he owns half of the company over a 2003 contract, is a fraud. Facebook says it has found the original 'authentic contract' between Zuckerberg and Ceglia."
Dun dun dunnnn
They must have partied hard if they can't find the contracts defining the ownership of a company like Facebook.
Now it comes down to who can make a better forgery. Or who needs to.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
If you find an "original" document months or years after people first start questioning its absence, chances are you're the one holding a fake.
Ceglia’s lawyers are claiming the “authentic contract” is shielded from use in the suit because it is designated as “confidential” under the rules of an agreement between the two parties. Facebook is asking the federal judge overseeing the case in New York to overrule that designation.
Damn Zuckerberg, it must be hard to actually *ask* people if you can change their priva... I mean, overrule their confidentiality settings.
sysadmins and parents of newborns get the same amount of sleep.
you mean, Dun-dun-dun-dun-dun Taicho ?
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that Ceglia is just looking for a settlement.
From the last paragraph of the article:
Facebook says all the evidence required to prove Ceglia’s contract is a forgery is in his computers and hard drives.
Wow.
-- $G
Isn't it interesting that whenever there's a new development in the "facebook chronicles", somebody "finds" some new documents? It's like this is some archeological expedition, and every now and then one of the people carefully excavating the digsite finds a piece of pottery and says "Hey guys! Look what I found! It's got writings on it!". Then facebook has to defend itself, so it sends its own archeologists to the deep dark dungeons of their corporate basement and they come back with a carbon-dated bit of clay with hieroglyphs on it -- "no, see, this is older than the piece you found, and it says the opposite!".
At least we know this won't last forever. Just until Google+ turns facebook into myspace.
Entomologically speaking, the spider is not a bug, it's a feature.
Why should I care? I never even signed up to Facebook, and even if I did, would it make any difference?
Why haven't you all moved to Google+ yet?
Facebook produces the 'original' agreement finally? This is almost as bad as Obama 'finally' producing a legitimate birth certificate. Laughable. Who cares.
And I just now found my copy. He left me everything.
Ceglia invested $1,000 in 2003 and is now expecting a 25,000,000% return on his investment. Get in line, Ceg even expecting your $1,000 back would be unreasonable.
bite my glorious golden ass.
Whenever I see Zuckerberg, I think Zoidberg, and it all kinda makes sense.
rewriting history since 2109
I don't use facebook and even if I did, why should I care about the internal conflicts of a company? Not really 'News for Nerds', unless, of course, you're looking to increase page views. Perhaps /. can run a story about 'flash mobs' and how they're ruining society. Oh wait.
I don't see why people care about Facebook's legal battles anymore. It's not going to really change anything one way or another. Facebook wins, then there might be an appeal, if they lose there might be an appeal, and either way it's about money that none of us will ever see, and a decision that will not effect our lives in any way significant or insignificant.
by the time ceglia possibly gets anything out of this, facebook will be past history, people are already leaving it for services like google plus because they're tired of being reamed.
or maybe people will get over this stupid social network horseshit and go back to running individual websites or using instant messengers. At the risk of sounding like a luddite, things were better on the internet before social networks took hold. You could create a handle, talk to people on a messenger, and that was it. "here's a list of my friends I will barely talk to with just screen names" vs. "Here's a list of my friends, family, and coworkers who I will barely talk to, with all of my information out in the open as well as theirs and hey every website out there has a facebook app that essentially tracks what I do, and one might post info about a news story I read to everyone I know! or some malicious fuck will use the facebook apps to hack my account or use a trap site to say that I look at goatse or child porn to all my friends to ruin me"
I prefer the instant messengers, it leaves it to the users to disclose how much info they want.
even with if you do minimal disclosure on facebook or G+ about who you are, your real name is still tagged to something that tracks you through the internet.
Facebook Value 'Plummets' to $70 Billion - CBS MoneyWatch.com
CIA.B.S.
And to lead this thread entirely off topic, does anyone remember how this BBS style commercial software for the Mac was called that people could use for free to meet in sort of "chat rooms" (on a central server) and trade pirated software?
Hotline! It was one of the few reasons I was in some ways jealous of my Mac-using friend in 1997/1998. I never understood why they didn't make clients for other OSes...
I find it strange that, if Ceglia forged the version of the contract on which he is relying in court, he kept around old versions or word processor change logs or whatever it is that Facebook has found. He doesn't seem to be the kind of naive non-technical user who wouldn't think of such things.
Under Jewish contract law, only one copy of any contract may be produced, and it must be written in an extremely strict, tamper-proof manner. This is intended to prevent just this type of contract-forgery claim.
I have a dedicated file tote for all important legal contracts with my signature on them. I would think anyone with half a brain would keep copies of something as important as a business contract. WTF?
https://www.accountkiller.com/removal-requested
they hate success in all its form crowd has way too many adherents on this site. It really gets to be depressing. Perhaps its a side of the wealth envy that far too many people have these days. I cannot honestly figure it out, but damn sometimes its downright embarrassing.
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We're doomed.
the “authentic contract” is shielded from use in the suit because it is designated as “confidential” under the rules of an agreement between the two parties
WHAT. THE. FUCK.
Isn't the whole point of a contract that it's legally binding?
To be legally binding, mustn't it be cited in court?
A contract that can't be used in court is NO CONTRACT.
Who the fuck are these lawyers? And why can't they be dis-barred?
good manne8s
Make strict documentation, notarize those by a lawyer and backups to multiple locations, when you do business with a Jew. The Talmud allows the Jews to defraud the entire business and they think they are doing their "god's" work.
Better yet, don't do business in America until it has been clear up, and looking back it is actually good that America becomes attractive to those parasites, as claimed by the Vladmir Putin, the Russian PM.
America has been brave by keep taking in those Talmud-reciting mutants, so to keep them from spreading to the outside world. When the new age comes we shall see blood.
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Shades of Mark William Hofman and LDS "lost" documents
they can give him his half of nothing.
Ceglia sounds like an italian name and Zuckenberger is a known jew. Italians have honour and the jews have been expelled everywhere around the word throughout the entire world history, because of their scheming and fraudulent ways. That's how the Rotschileds stole half of the entire world's property in the early industrial age. Jews consider the goyim (~ all other nations and races) as equal to the dirt of the ground and claim only jews possess immortal soul, as a proof of their divine choosen-ness. Avoid contract or loan with jews at any cost, that is the lesson more and more people learn and that's why strict islamic banking, which does not rely on interest rates and usury, is getting so popular, without regard to faith of the involved.
Facebook will soon be irrelevant. People will migrate to other services, probably Google+. We've seen it happen before: myspace, hi5 etc. I give it 2 more years before it fades away.
I've been watching this case from the beginning wait to see who's telling the truth, but its a child's game and its getting old with the two of them going back and forth throwing insults and nothing more. Repeatedly Ceglia has claimed Mark has used such clever tactics, but truthfully he's done nothing more than say he never discussed it with him. Sure there's still reason to believe Mark might be lying, but Ceglia, despite my disdain for media as attention seeking vultures noone has any reason to believe you based on evidence that could've been easily manufactured. Show the contract and maybe then we'll believe you! Until then you're no less a scam artist than the nutjob that claimed to have Hitler's will.
Apparently Ceglia posted on his FB page, 'Lolz, shopping zoidberg's contracts, I am teh 733tz0r!'
HA! I just wasted some of your bandwidth with a frivolous sig!
. The movie [imdb.com] showed that lots of people held his hand and Myspace [wikipedia.org] paved the way years before Facebook showed up.
Well if it was in a movie, it must be true.
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