I know that expecting more than a token number of intelligent, informed comments on/. is a faulty expectation. But this thread exceeds my lowest expectations. The GVCS isn't about building modern society from scratch. Thank you to the few commenters who wrote informed, useful comments-- I'm sure I'm not the only one who appreciates them.
This just isn't a concern for me.
Installing and configuring Linux is difficult. Some slashdot readers will disagree with me, but as CS degree-holder and Linux user who has spent hundreds of hours troubleshooting fresh Linux installations on my own machines (and in several cases reverting back to windows because of some deal-breaker hardware incompatibility issue), I can confidently say that I would NEVER recommend to any of my family members that they attempt to install Linux on their own.
In other words, I view the ability to google for solutions when a strange error message pops up (i.e. when the SecureBoot check fails) as a prerequisite to installing Linux (or any operating system, really) on a system.
For the majority of PC buyers, I think that the added security of SecureBoot far outweighs the potential risk that they might get flustered when attempting to install Linux.
Sure - for developers working on Live CDs, I can see how this would be a pain in the ass. But try to think of the bigger picture.
Hey that's great, if you're not getting paid to spout baloney you should be! It's very sincere and hardly sounds like a paid shill. Not to mention your total arrogance in believing it is OK to restrict other people's choices because of something you think you have no use for. Anyway protecting the boot sector adds maybe 0.0000000002% additional security to Windows, the guaranteed speed portal to the World Wide Botnet. Computer users who take security seriously don't use Windows. Period.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
You must be a commie. Or a socialist. Or a terrorist hippie. We don't tolerate that crazy talk in America.
Only 63% of House Democrats voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1964 while 80% of House Republicans voted for it. In the Senate things werent much better for the Democrats, as only 69% voted for the Civil Rights Act while 82% of Republicans voted for it.
Did your liberal brainwashing in school forget to tell you that it was the Democrats that tied up the floors for 83 days in a record-setting filibuster attempting to stop the Civil Rights Act?
You think that todays liberals might try to stop the civil rights act? Fuck dude.. it was yesterdays liberals that did try to stop it.
You're wrong, and obviously a Glenn Beck "make shit up" acolyte. Those Democrats who tried to block the Civil Rights Act were the Dixiecrats, the same Southern traders in bigotry and ignorance that pollute politics to this day. They became Republicans after the CRA fight. Yes, children, that was when Strom Thurmond was a Democrat. No really. The final tally shows strong Democratic party support:
Senate vote:
Democrats: 46-21 (69%–31%)
Republicans: 27-6 (82%–18%)
House vote:
Democratics: 153-91 (63%–37%)
Republicans: 136-35 (80%–20%)
Actually, this isn't a public place. You're parking on their property. Don't like it, don't go there. It's that simple.
Just walk away has always been stupid advice. It doesn't change anything. Why are there always a bunch of dummies who preach this? We should always speak up and protest abusive practices. Following your 'don't go there' advice doesn't improve anything, it just narrows our options and encourages this sort of crap.
Re:Hi, Kevin. I'm one of your victims.
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No, I'm blaming the people who've come up and promoted the system.
I specifically said "they're responsible for all." The victim couldn't be responsible for all, now could it? At most (s)he would be responsible for one.
Yep, you're a dumbass.
You tried to sell US secrets to Russia
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How does it feel to be a big hero now with thousands of semi-literate amoral/. readers who think it's OK to get away with whatever you can? Who have the moral compass of a Goldman Sachs executive? Who excuse your thefts and conning good-hearted people who were not trained in security? You tried to steal US secrets and sell them to Russia, and got caught because you and your cohorts were too stupid to fool trained agents. Ever think of just shutting your big mouth?
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The people who shouldn't sleep well at night is whoever thought credit cards where a good idea.
Good, blame the victim. Mitnick was a thief and con man. I suppose you believe that people should only do the right things when they're forced to.
Non-natives don't make that mistake. They learn English in school where this sort of difference is drilled until people are sick of it. I bet you 20 yuan that the Anonymous poster was the flag-waving, gun-toting kind of inbred (not "inbreed"), and not the foreign kind.
When you have guns and flags you don't need no sissy spelling.
No nostalgia for Jon Katz? Goodbye Cmdr Taco, I will miss your staunch defense of typos and bad grammar. You done good with Slashdot, long may it reign!
As so many commenters have said already, it's the extreme dickish atmosphere that drives good people away. When everything you do is nitpicked to death, when your contributions are deleted or changed for the worse, when there are endless debates over who is notable enough to have a bio in Wikipedia, it becomes a pointless waste of time. If you want good people investing their time and expertise for free then you shouldn't let angry nutters stomp all over their work. This is such a big duh it suggests that mr "I am beautiful" Wales is awfully dense to not know it already.
But imagine the difference in NIMBY factor! They don't like a bunch of effeminate wind turbines waving their girly arms wildly in the wind. But this is a TOWERING METAL DICK that any man can be proud of and any woman can subconsciously be aroused by or turn into a feminist talking point. Plus it will be even harder for people to feel bad about birds that fly into it, because this thing doesn't move at all.
Bravo! This my favorite funniest and truest/. comment of all time.
I'd be happy for Web sites that don't run crappy buggy lardy scripts that bring my quad-core to its knees, and browsers that quit jettisoning useful functionality. With Firefox you have to install plugins to mitigate its usability defects. Which is a loser game because FF upgrades break plugins and you can't count on plugin authors to keep up. For example, remember the good old days when the URL bar kept a chronological history of pages you had visited, so it was dead easy to go back in time? Not any more, now it's some weird thing that keeps sites I rarely visit in the list but not the most recent, and you have to faff around in the History menu. After all these years there is still no decent cookie manager. No one-click clear the URL bar. No one-click clear the Google search bar, and it used to keep a history of searches which was very handy but not anymore. eh, lusers don't count...
Something really needs to be done about Righthaven, and the other parasites of modern society like the RIAA, the BSA, the MPAA, and patent trolls. They are exactly like burglars, they exist only to steal from honest hardworking people to benefit themselves.
How about a physical beating? Seriously. Just think if the plaintiff's lawyers and their idiot clients were given a sound thrashing for every frivolous, malicious suit they bring. Bet they'd think a lot more carefully before suing someone.
They are afraid the water might be able to be reassembled in such a way as to show the data that the computers were processing when it cooled them.
For God's sake don't tell them I
Ha:) Wish I had some mod points for smart and funny!
I seem to recall Intel or someone discovering a radical new inexpensive way to cool datacenters. They opened the windows.
I know that expecting more than a token number of intelligent, informed comments on /. is a faulty expectation. But this thread exceeds my lowest expectations. The GVCS isn't about building modern society from scratch. Thank you to the few commenters who wrote informed, useful comments-- I'm sure I'm not the only one who appreciates them.
I'd rather be a paid shill than a crackpot!
You're doing fine being both.
So sorry, I understand your sensitivity to being a third-grade dropout. We'll dumb down so you can feel better about yourself.
... but if it turns out that way, oops, our bad. (Not really) Sorry about that.
Just the new modern version of the old mafia line...
"That's a really nice libre operating system you've got there. Be a shame if you couldn't install it on any new PCs you buy. A real shame."
Heh, exactly right. It's a farce anyway, because if they were serious about security they wouldn't boot Windows at all.
This just isn't a concern for me. Installing and configuring Linux is difficult. Some slashdot readers will disagree with me, but as CS degree-holder and Linux user who has spent hundreds of hours troubleshooting fresh Linux installations on my own machines (and in several cases reverting back to windows because of some deal-breaker hardware incompatibility issue), I can confidently say that I would NEVER recommend to any of my family members that they attempt to install Linux on their own. In other words, I view the ability to google for solutions when a strange error message pops up (i.e. when the SecureBoot check fails) as a prerequisite to installing Linux (or any operating system, really) on a system. For the majority of PC buyers, I think that the added security of SecureBoot far outweighs the potential risk that they might get flustered when attempting to install Linux. Sure - for developers working on Live CDs, I can see how this would be a pain in the ass. But try to think of the bigger picture.
Hey that's great, if you're not getting paid to spout baloney you should be! It's very sincere and hardly sounds like a paid shill. Not to mention your total arrogance in believing it is OK to restrict other people's choices because of something you think you have no use for. Anyway protecting the boot sector adds maybe 0.0000000002% additional security to Windows, the guaranteed speed portal to the World Wide Botnet. Computer users who take security seriously don't use Windows. Period.
It's a *confident*. Derp...
Confidante... I rather like cosmonaut.
How about this mission statement:
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
You must be a commie. Or a socialist. Or a terrorist hippie. We don't tolerate that crazy talk in America.
Only 63% of House Democrats voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1964 while 80% of House Republicans voted for it. In the Senate things werent much better for the Democrats, as only 69% voted for the Civil Rights Act while 82% of Republicans voted for it. Did your liberal brainwashing in school forget to tell you that it was the Democrats that tied up the floors for 83 days in a record-setting filibuster attempting to stop the Civil Rights Act? You think that todays liberals might try to stop the civil rights act? Fuck dude.. it was yesterdays liberals that did try to stop it.
You're wrong, and obviously a Glenn Beck "make shit up" acolyte. Those Democrats who tried to block the Civil Rights Act were the Dixiecrats, the same Southern traders in bigotry and ignorance that pollute politics to this day. They became Republicans after the CRA fight. Yes, children, that was when Strom Thurmond was a Democrat. No really. The final tally shows strong Democratic party support: Senate vote: Democrats: 46-21 (69%–31%) Republicans: 27-6 (82%–18%) House vote: Democratics: 153-91 (63%–37%) Republicans: 136-35 (80%–20%)
Actually, this isn't a public place. You're parking on their property. Don't like it, don't go there. It's that simple.
Just walk away has always been stupid advice. It doesn't change anything. Why are there always a bunch of dummies who preach this? We should always speak up and protest abusive practices. Following your 'don't go there' advice doesn't improve anything, it just narrows our options and encourages this sort of crap.
No, I'm blaming the people who've come up and promoted the system.
I specifically said "they're responsible for all." The victim couldn't be responsible for all, now could it? At most (s)he would be responsible for one.
Yep, you're a dumbass.
How does it feel to be a big hero now with thousands of semi-literate amoral /. readers who think it's OK to get away with whatever you can? Who have the moral compass of a Goldman Sachs executive? Who excuse your thefts and conning good-hearted people who were not trained in security? You tried to steal US secrets and sell them to Russia, and got caught because you and your cohorts were too stupid to fool trained agents. Ever think of just shutting your big mouth?
The people who shouldn't sleep well at night is whoever thought credit cards where a good idea.
Good, blame the victim. Mitnick was a thief and con man. I suppose you believe that people should only do the right things when they're forced to.
Yeah, I hear being badly photoshopped is damaging to your health.
Thank you. It is obviously faked, and now I know the T in TMZ stands for "toilet."
Non-natives don't make that mistake. They learn English in school where this sort of difference is drilled until people are sick of it. I bet you 20 yuan that the Anonymous poster was the flag-waving, gun-toting kind of inbred (not "inbreed"), and not the foreign kind.
When you have guns and flags you don't need no sissy spelling.
No nostalgia for Jon Katz? Goodbye Cmdr Taco, I will miss your staunch defense of typos and bad grammar. You done good with Slashdot, long may it reign!
And I just now found my copy. He left me everything.
As so many commenters have said already, it's the extreme dickish atmosphere that drives good people away. When everything you do is nitpicked to death, when your contributions are deleted or changed for the worse, when there are endless debates over who is notable enough to have a bio in Wikipedia, it becomes a pointless waste of time. If you want good people investing their time and expertise for free then you shouldn't let angry nutters stomp all over their work. This is such a big duh it suggests that mr "I am beautiful" Wales is awfully dense to not know it already.
But imagine the difference in NIMBY factor! They don't like a bunch of effeminate wind turbines waving their girly arms wildly in the wind. But this is a TOWERING METAL DICK that any man can be proud of and any woman can subconsciously be aroused by or turn into a feminist talking point. Plus it will be even harder for people to feel bad about birds that fly into it, because this thing doesn't move at all.
Bravo! This my favorite funniest and truest /. comment of all time.
...against morons on the faculty. With students there is still hope.
I'd be happy for Web sites that don't run crappy buggy lardy scripts that bring my quad-core to its knees, and browsers that quit jettisoning useful functionality. With Firefox you have to install plugins to mitigate its usability defects. Which is a loser game because FF upgrades break plugins and you can't count on plugin authors to keep up. For example, remember the good old days when the URL bar kept a chronological history of pages you had visited, so it was dead easy to go back in time? Not any more, now it's some weird thing that keeps sites I rarely visit in the list but not the most recent, and you have to faff around in the History menu. After all these years there is still no decent cookie manager. No one-click clear the URL bar. No one-click clear the Google search bar, and it used to keep a history of searches which was very handy but not anymore. eh, lusers don't count...
Something really needs to be done about Righthaven, and the other parasites of modern society like the RIAA, the BSA, the MPAA, and patent trolls. They are exactly like burglars, they exist only to steal from honest hardworking people to benefit themselves.
How about a physical beating? Seriously. Just think if the plaintiff's lawyers and their idiot clients were given a sound thrashing for every frivolous, malicious suit they bring. Bet they'd think a lot more carefully before suing someone.
So then can someone please propose an alternative to PK's request?
Yes, quit electing greedy hate loons like Peter King.
They are afraid the water might be able to be reassembled in such a way as to show the data that the computers were processing when it cooled them.
For God's sake don't tell them I
Ha :) Wish I had some mod points for smart and funny!
I seem to recall Intel or someone discovering a radical new inexpensive way to cool datacenters. They opened the windows.
Just what we need, something iffy given the status of actual evidence. I feel much better now.
Microsoft has to keep buying business-- I'm wondering what kind of fancy accounting they're doing to prop up their revenue figures.