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Law School Amplifies Critics Through SLAPP Suit

An anonymous reader writes "Michigan's Thomas M. Cooley Law School recently filed a lawsuit that appears to be boomeranging in the worst possible way. A little-noticed pseudonymous blogger respectfully disagreed with Cooley's self-awarded number-2 ranking, nationwide (well, perhaps not so respectfully), and had a few other choice things to say. So, Cooley went ahead and hired some lawyers (who had graduated from Georgetown and the University of Michigan) to file a lawsuit to unmask the blogger. And EFF cooperating attorney John Hermann got involved. "

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  1. What? by ArchieBunker · · Score: 2

    Can someone please make sense of that summary. All I can gather is a law school is suing a blogger from Georgetown?

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    1. Re:What? by Oxford_Comma_Lover · · Score: 4, Interesting

      No; Cooley hired lawyers who had graduated from Georgetown and Michigan. (Both excellent schools.) They did this to go after a blogger who was claiming something bad about Cooley. The poster is implicitly pointing out that they did not trust Cooley graduates to bring their lawsuit.

      To be fair, I would much prefer GULC (Georgetown) or Michigan grads. Georgetown's great for practicality, depth of curriculum, non-profit work, and DC connectedness. Michigan is great for Academia, just a notch behind Yale, really, and more like Yale than Harvard. Both have great students.

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    2. Re:What? by Alien+Being · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Cooley, a law school I've never heard of, claimed to be the 2nd highest rated law school in the country. They got pissed when someone called BS. They hired lawyers from a couple of well-known law schools and sued the guy. This lead to us average joes hearing about it.

      In other words, a bunch of scumbag cunts are writhing around like snakes in a pit trying to kill each other and a crowd is gathering.

      Real Americans should pitch in by gathering up other cunt lawyers and throwing them into the same pit. That way we can burn them all with less impact on the environment.

      I am not a lawyer and i would be very offended if anyone claimed that i am.

    3. Re:What? by sunderland56 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      All schools have great students. All schools also have lousy students. If I needed a lawyer, I'd hire a great student, not one from some particular school.

      Yes, if you are law school X, you might want to hire alumni for your legal matters - but more as a part of marketing than anything else. Oh, and avoiding bad press. I've never heard of Cooley before, but now my first impression is that they are idiots.

    4. Re:What? by poetmatt · · Score: 2

      they (Cooley) are also the ones who make the rating system in the first place. Thus, the issue, and why people are calling BS on cooley (and quite appropriately so).

    5. Re:What? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Funny

      In other words, a bunch of scumbag cunts are writhing around like snakes in a pit trying to kill each other and a crowd is gathering.

      See, now that's how you write a summary.

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    6. Re:What? by Capt.+Skinny · · Score: 3, Interesting

      To summarize the parent link, some current student begins his review by praising Cooley's liberal admissions policy and explaining that Cooley will take you if no one else will. He goes on to complain that the grading system is severe, A's and B's are "hard to come by", and the school flunks out students in their first, second, or third year. "To stay afloat and not flunk is difficult once you get accepted," he complains.

      Well, damn. The kid finally found a law school to accept his mediocre ass, and now he's complaining because the academic standards aren't as lax as the admission standards. IT'S LAW SCHOOL, kid. I think he might be better suited to a community college.

    7. Re:What? by LordLimecat · · Score: 3, Interesting

      There appears to be a lot more to his complaint, such as

      Cooley registrar's office personnel and professors are known to prolong or refuse to give letters of good standing and recommendations to students seeking to leave-like blocking a professional swimmer wearing a life jacket from jumping off the Titanic

      He also indicates an incredibly high attrition rate, and a very low bar passage rate. In other words, youre likely to flunk out, and if you dont, youre still unlikely to pass the bar. That does sound like a rather awful university. I think he cited 60% attrition rate and 40-50% bar passage rate (so 15-20% of people who enter the school will actually be able to practice).

    8. Re:What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      No, Michigan refers to the state in which Thomas M. Cooley School of Law is in. The University of Michigan Law School at Ann Arbor is a T14 law school and is not named Thomas Cooley.

      They ain't the same thing at all.

    9. Re:What? by geminidomino · · Score: 3, Funny

      So you've worked with University of Phoenix graduates too, huh?

    10. Re:What? by geminidomino · · Score: 2

      I conquer...

      Should have spent more time studying spelling and less time listening to the lamentations of their women, mate.

    11. Re:What? by gstoddart · · Score: 2

      they (Cooley) are also the ones who make the rating system in the first place. Thus, the issue, and why people are calling BS on cooley (and quite appropriately so).

      And, just to be clear ... this is a rating system that nobody BUT Cooley is using.

      So, a not-so-well-known law school (which isn't considered the second best law school in the US by anybody else) came up with a rating system that makes themselves sound like the second best law school in the country.

      Various people called bullshit, and the law school sues ... hilariously using lawyers who graduated from other (and perceived as better) law schools.

      In the process of suing someone for defaming their reputation, loads of people have now heard about how Cooley made up their own rating system to apply to themselves to make themselves sound like a prestigious law school. Hilarity ensues.

      This really is one of the funniest thing I've hear in a while ... the Streisand effect, but with universities. :-P

      It's like marketing colliding with lawyers ... I'm waiting for Cooley to have to admit that their claims were pure puffery and admit they have no legal basis to sue people who presented conflicting statements of fact.

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  2. hmmm by nomadic · · Score: 5, Informative

    As a little background, Cooley is ranked by US News and World Report as one of the worst law schools in the country; it's reputation among lawyers is pretty much the same, I believe. I've read the lawsuit and actually they probably have a decent case against 3 of the 4 defendants if the statements they made were true (very specific statements about them being under investigation, for example, are not protected as opinion). As for hurting their reputation, in my opinion their reputation is sufficiently bad that this lawsuit isn't really going to make it any worse. Kind of a funny side note, Cooley doesn't like that reputation so they created their own rankings system using supposedly "objective" standards where they ranked themselves #2, or ahead of every other law school in the country (including Yale, which is generally considered to be the best, noticeably outranking even Harvard). The standards they picked, of course, are ones that will rank them highly even though they don't really have anything to do with academic excellence (number of students, number of books in the library, number of seats in the library (seriously), total area of the law school).

  3. Nice. by headhot · · Score: 2

    If the school were any good, wouldn't it sue with its own graduates instead of those from highly respected schools?

  4. This is called the Streisand Effect by stillnotelf · · Score: 2, Informative

    Nobody's posted this yet so it's worth a link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect . Basically, when your complaint about a tiny amount of publicity attracts a huge amount of publicity, you've made a mistake.

  5. Re:SLAPP? by Bieeanda · · Score: 4, Informative
    Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation. It's an intimidation tactic, threatening to bury the target under an insurmountable mass of legal fees even before the suit can go ahead.

    Honestly, I think the term's fallen out of use because so goddamn many suits are the result of this tactic now.

  6. Re:royally effed by nomadic · · Score: 2

    They'll be back on the bar scene in 3 years, unemployable with $200k in debt. You should buy them a few drinks.

  7. Obligatory Schlock Mercencary reference by sgtrock · · Score: 3, Funny
    From the archives:

    Massey:Our case made it through the courts in record time, Captain. It's a mixed bag, though. I've got good news and bad news.

    Tagon:Bad news first. That gives me time to prime my weapons if necessary.

    Massey:Right.

    Narrator:Massey is a victim of a vailed attempt at mind control. As a result, he can see the mind of his would-be masters, but they cannot do anything about it.

    Massey:The bad news is that although we won, the partnership collective refuses to honor the judgement. We'll probably never see a dime.

    Massey:The good news is that the judge was feeling pretty vengeful when she assessed punitive damages. Agents of the court may destroy up to two billion kilocreds in the collective's assets, and that comes out to about one million attorney drones.

    Tagon:Tell me how somebody else's revenge is good news for me?

    Massey:We've been named as agents of the court. We get a bounty on every attorney we kill.

    Tagon:Oh yes. Oh my, oh my, oh yes...

  8. Re:You can't sign away the 1ST amendment rights by Oxford_Comma_Lover · · Score: 2

    Are you kidding in your subject line? Signing away first amendment rights is a common practice. Security Clearances, employment agreements, settlement agreements, nondisclosure agreements, all kinds of things let you sign away your rights. (Though consult a lawyer if it matters to you in a particular situation, obviously.)

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  9. A little help for you, Archie. by ecgrimm · · Score: 2
    Well, Archie, several issues are packed in there rather tightly, and I have to confess that it was intentional to pack a lot in. This was done with the expectation that the average Slashdot reader will be up to the task presented. Many Slashdot readers seem to "get it" without quite so much difficulty, but let me help unpackage some of the issues for you. Before I begin, let me say that I have many valued friends and professional colleagues who attended Cooley and who secured their law degrees from this school. I am not interested in criticizing Cooley's academic program (I'll leave it to others to form their own opinions), and my primary focus is about their counter-productive litigation strategy.

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    1. The real, central, issue here is actually much broader than Cooley. It involves what some (like PayPal co-founder and Silicon Valley venture capitalist Peter Thiel) have started describing as a "higher education bubble" or a "student loan bubble" -- after comparing trends in debt-financed education, to the recent collapse of the housing bubble. If the predicted collapse materializes (and the jury is out on whether it will), then you tell me whether Cooley has improved or harmed its chances to keep a low profile when stuff hits the fan. It is certainly premature, today, to predict who might be viewed, in a few months or a few years, to be the Angelo Mozillo or the Countrywide of the education industry. But you are invited to consider this subject, investigate the facts for yourself, and to make up your own mind.

    2. The next level down is a phenomenon that has been called "The Streisand Effect" -- a phrase coined by TechDirt's Mike Masnick to encapsulate the paradoxical observation that lawsuits seeking to suppress expression on the Internet, routinely seem to backfire, and often result in the viral amplification of the messages of critics, rather than the result sought by companies like Cooley. Incidentally, the initial submission (which was edited a bit by Timothy) asked an additional question, which Timothy omitted, which is this: Is the example of Cooley's backfiring lawsuit such a good example of this phenomenon, the we might even want to consider updating Masnick's neologism to "The Cooley Effect," rather than "The Streisand Effect?" Personally, I vote for "The Cooley Effect."

    3. The lawsuit was actually against several individuals who published material on the Internet. The principal blogger (whose handle is Rockstar05), went to Cooley and can speak from direct experience about what it is like to be a Cooley student. The blogger is a classic dis-satisfied customer. Rockstar05, at least based on published accounts, transferred out of Cooley in order to attend some other law school. The lawsuit has been filed *against* the blogger, and has been filed by two lawyers at the Miller, Canfield, law firm, at the request of Cooley law school. It is helpful to keep track of who is doing what -- the blogger used to be from Cooley, and probably had nothing to do with Georgetown. One of the blogger's adversaries, trying to unmask him or her, graduated from Georgetown University Law Center.

    4. One of the delicious and subtle ironies, in this case, is how Cooley (which, presumably, had a lot of lawyers to choose among, because Cooley generates a lot of revenue and can pay top dollar) elected not to hire one of its own graduates, but rather a pair of lawyers who graduated from other programs that Cooley's own promotional literature routinely purports to rank lower than Cooley. This is a very minor issue, and I'm sorry if that's what got you confused. It is just too amusing not to point out.

    5. The other, much bigger, policy issue that needs to be addressed, is truth-in-admissions standards not just for law schools, but for higher education, generally. You can decide for yourself whether Cooley's information practices toward prospective students (including, but hardly limited to, the "Cooley Rankings" issued for the past 12 years), actually meet the standards that

  10. Wow, this school has balls. by Gordo_1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    For a good laugh, have a look at the blatantly cherry-picked ranking system they built for themselves:
    http://www.cooley.edu/rankings/search/report-byschool.php

    Now select Harvard, Yale or whatever you think are actual good schools and do the comparison... Well, whaddaya know! Cooley comes out first overall, as well first in such important metrics as:

    * Foreign National Enrollment
    * Part-Time Faculty
    * First-Year Section Size
    * Library Hours per Week with Professional Staff
    * Library Seating Capacity
    * Law School Square Footage Excluding Library
    * Total Law School Square Footage
    * Number of States in which Graduates Employed

    Here's the kicker: Percentage of Graduates Employed is only 78.8%, meaning you are roughly twice as likely as the average person in this country to be unemployed after having graduated from their program! But the median of all their useless metrics puts them at number one, because their ranking system gives equal weight to Library Seating Capacity as Percentage of Graduates Employed.

  11. Re:You can't sign away the 1ST amendment rights by snowgirl · · Score: 2

    Are you kidding in your subject line? Signing away first amendment rights is a common practice. Security Clearances, employment agreements, settlement agreements, nondisclosure agreements, all kinds of things let you sign away your rights. (Though consult a lawyer if it matters to you in a particular situation, obviously.)

    This is spot on. The issue is that one cannot be forced to forfeit their 1st amendment rights, however, if one willingly and voluntarily signed a contract to forfeit their 1st amendment rights in some way, then that contract can be enforced in court.

    Now, there are certain unconscionable conditions for contracts that you cannot do. You cannot contract to consent to slavery, as well you cannot consent to be intentionally killed. (You can however consent to be involved in potentially lethal physical combat, so long as all reasonable precautions against death are taken. This is how boxing works.) However, "freedom of speech" is not an inalienable right.

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