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World's First Cybernetic Athlete To Compete

Tufriast writes "The world's first mechanically augmented athlete, Oscar Pistorius, will now compete against unaugmented peers on behalf of South Africa. He'll be running in the 400m and 4x400m relay at the World Athletics 2011 Championships. Pistorius, a double leg amputee, has had special leg blades crafted for him that allow him to compete against his peers. He's fought hard to prove they provide no advantage, and according to IAAF they do not. This should be a very interesting race to watch. His nickname: The Blade Runner."

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  1. Re:English... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Augmented from his previous state of having no lower legs to having blades.

  2. Re:Link by Mikkeles · · Score: 2

    I wonder whats [sic] changed?

    Whinging and whining and Political Correctnes (TM).

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  3. Re:Link by SniperJoe · · Score: 3, Funny

    I put it down more to the fact that he now has an AWESOME nickname.

    I can see it now:

    Previously
    Spokesman: "Hey guys, Oscar Pistorius wants permission to race in the Olympics, do we let him in?"
    Olympic Committee: "Meh."

    Now
    Spokesman: "Hey guys, The Blade Runner wants permission to race in the World Championships."
    World Athletic Committee: "Oh hell yeah!"

  4. Very very old news by hedleyroos · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm a South African. He has been competing against able-bodied athletes for ages now. It's not news. A discussion on Slashdot as to whether the blades are an unfair advantage over other athletes will be much more interesting.

    1. Re:Very very old news by rcasha2 · · Score: 2

      Even if it is determined on this occasion that they do not, every minor modification or newer and better model of the blades will reignite the debate: "Do they now constitute an advantage?" This risks changing the sport into a competition of who has the best technology.

    2. Re:Very very old news by delinear · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Indeed, although I wonder why that's so. If Nike or Adidas create a new sports shoe that gives a competitive advantage, and only certain athletes have access to it, do the sports bodies get their panties in a twist? The whole idea of the Olympics in particular (where he was prevented from running) is that it's meant to bring people together - here's someone who is trying to take a pretty crappy hand life's dealt them and turn it into a positive.

    3. Re:Very very old news by SeeSp0tRun · · Score: 2

      It is similar to Rohan Murphy who was "best of the best" for quite some time on ESPN. He had no legs, and was a very good wrestler in his weight class.

      If you step back and think about it, anybody would be a great wrestler, having no legs (lower weight class), a far lower center of gravity (most impact moves require 200% effort to lift and then throw him), and his upper body mass would put him a few weight classes up, if he had legs. While I admire the guy for competing, and doing well, it seems as though his particular disability is an advantage in the sport.

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  5. Scientifically shown to provide advantage over... by Assmasher · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...runners with natural ankles and feet.

    I admire the guy's tenacity (double amputee at 11 months and still played rugby growing up) but I recall seeing him competing a few years ago in Europe (some track meet in Rome iirc) and he was no where near the fitness level of the other atheletes and yet was qualifying for heats (in other words - he was 'heavy' at the time.)

    Now unless this is an unfortunate coincidence between the potentially fastest human ever having his legs amputated as a baby, it is an unfair advantage. The IAAF, contrary to the OP's assertion, claim that it provides him a clear and obvious advantage mechanically and say they have the data to back it up...

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  6. Re:Surely not cybernetic as no feedback involved by mlk · · Score: 2

    I'd guess he can feel the impact with the floor through the stump, and what more feedback do you need?

    If not good enough, what is the correct term for them?

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  7. Opinions Will Be Based On Whether He Wins by s31523 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If he wins a lot then he will be declared as having an unfair advantage, and if he loses (or just average) he will be declared as having no advantage.

  8. Re:Link by tburkhol · · Score: 3, Informative

    There's an argument that, on one hand, because he doesn't have to drag along the extra weight of lower legs, feet, and shoes, and his prostheses return energy very efficiently, that he might have an energetic advantage. On the other hand, he's missing a lot of musculature that ordinarily contributes power to forward progression, so he ought to be at an energetic disadvantage.

    One of the most complete studies of this question, in this particular athlete, was not published until 2009 http://jap.physiology.org/content/107/3/903.long Unfortunately too late to contribute to the Olympics decision.

  9. A strange game... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've never understood the nigh-jesuitical levels of logic chopping(with not infrequent descent into mere hand-waving) that go on surrounding "fair" and "unfair" advantages in high level sports.

    You've got a tiny number of heavily selected freaks of nature, endowed by various quirks of heredity with highly atypical phenotypes, augmented by years or decades of carefully designed training, controlled diet, etc. whose handlers cry out every time somebody has the temerity to shoot a little synthetic testosterone instead of just expressing freakish amounts of it naturally "Oh, no! We have to set a good example for the kids! Professional athletes are just regular folks who get a good night's rest and eat their wheaties!". Similar things come up with, say, hemoglobin concentrations: Does your blood contain more iron than most steel alloys because your ancestors were the spacesuit people who live at 50,000 feet above sea level? No problem, come right in! Does your blood contain more iron than most steel alloys because your doctor has been extracting and re-injecting it? Banhammer!

    1. Re:A strange game... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Interesting

      A great many athletes end up horribly unhealthy. Some of the more adventurous doping can chew you up quickly and unpleasantly; but high-level athletic performance will grind you down good and hard in the long run.

      The one where even "what you were born with" seems to break down into pure handwaving is Women's high-level stuff. All the really weird phenotypes show up there: XYYs, Chimeras, burly intersex specimens of various flavors, all sorts of obscure genetic and phenotypic curiosities that definitely aren't XY males; but really, really rub people the wrong way as "women"...

    2. Re:A strange game... by Ambvai · · Score: 2

      An excellent example of a somewhat-recent controversial athlete: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caster_Semenya

      She's a South African runner who, due to a variety of factors but probably her speed and appearance, had her sex called into question. I remember talking to a few friends of mine in the medical field about her at the time and one of the more interesting theories was that she may be sexually male but with a developmental disorder that causes superficially female genitalia to develop.

    3. Re:A strange game... by itsdapead · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I've never understood the nigh-jesuitical levels of logic chopping(with not infrequent descent into mere hand-waving) that go on surrounding "fair" and "unfair" advantages in high level sports.

      The underlying problem is the idea of "high level sports", "professional athletes", massive sponsorship deals and huge capital pork projects to host athletics events. If it was just a case of the misty-eyed wholesome self-improvement aspect of sport for sport's sake then it would be petty to argue about such things and there would be less incentive to cheat. As it is, though, these are professionals (highly paid in some cases) trying to defend their livelihood against "unfair competition".

      "Oh, no! We have to set a good example for the kids! Professional athletes are just regular folks who get a good night's rest and eat their wheaties!".

      Of course there's nothing particularly natural about regular folks who eat their wheaties (or anything else that doesn't grow on trees in the Rift Valley), had their childhood diseases cured and can expect to live 40 years beyond the MTBF of the original homo sapiens. Should we stop worrying and embrace the PharmaLympics, and treat anybody who wrecks their health with performance-enhancing drugs the same way we treat those of us who have wrecked our health by sitting behind a desk all day and living on pizza and coffee for the sake of our career?

      That'd be Wheaties(tm) - fortified with iron and vitamins, official breakfast cereal of the BigSportsTornament(r)(tm)(c) by the way.

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  10. Re:Link by stjobe · · Score: 2

    In 2008, they only measured him running in a straight line, this time they looked at a complete 400m race. They concluded that he's at a disadvantage at the start and in every corner, and thus for the complete race he's not at an "unfair advantage".

    That, and perhaps the fact that he's no threat - his personal best on any distance (100m, 200m, 400m) is about 2 seconds behind the World Record.

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  11. Re:English... by zippthorne · · Score: 2

    No, the question is whether it gives him an advantage over his unaugmented and unamputated self. If you can design the prosthetics to any level of performance, up to and including superior performance to your competitors, It doesn't really make it "more fair" to choose 80th percentile or 90th percentile or 50th percentile level performance. It's not really a contest at that point, but a demo.

    Really, what they should do is offer a separate category of competition: "open" and "natural". In the "open" contests any competitor should be able to use any contraption they choose (including nothing), as long as there is no stored energy at the start of the competition and/or no net change in energy at the end of the competition.

    This rule would take care of the problem where a jetpack full of rocket fuel would change the very nature of a road race, but spring-feet even though they need to be compressed somewhat at the start might be acceptable.

    In fact, we've already got machine augmented races using just those sort of rules: NASCAR and speed skating both follow the above model.

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  12. A Farewell to...Legs? by LibRT · · Score: 5, Funny

    This reminds me of an assignment I was given in high school English class: the book we were to study that year was Hemingway's "A Farewell to Arms". Prior to starting the book, the teacher asked that we write an essay outlining our expectations of the book, based solely on the title. Well, I had no idea what the hell the book would be about - all I could come up with was a future in which superior, articficial limbs became widely available, and once a person's growth stopped, they'd have their natural limbs hacked off and replaced with the better artificial limbs in a ceremony called, "A Farewell to Arms!" The teacher gave me an "A+", but looked at me funny the rest of the year...

  13. Me too! by davidbrit2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I will be competing in the 400m and 4x400m relay using my specially crafted Chevy Cavalier. It's a manual transmission, so the engine computer won't give me an unfair advantage.

  14. Oblig... by twistedsymphony · · Score: 3, Funny

    I for one welcome our new cybernetic..... peers?

  15. Sandbagging by srussia · · Score: 2

    That, and perhaps the fact that he's no threat - his personal best on any distance (100m, 200m, 400m) is about 2 seconds behind the World Record.

    He might have been sandbagging it all this time. Can you imagine the splash if he actually wins?

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  16. Re:Scientifically shown to provide advantage over. by outsider007 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Just like how Lance Armstrong had a 50% testicle mass advantage. Unfair!

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  17. Re:Surely not cybernetic as no feedback involved by Ambvai · · Score: 2

    What's next, calling a peg-legged pirate a cyborg because his wooden leg is "cybernetic"? Then we send him to ninja school and we have "cyborg pirate ninja".

    Great! Then we just need to kill him and bring him back to have the legendary Ninja Zombie Pirate Robot!

  18. No advantage? by cmay · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Something tells me he would be considerably slower without them.

  19. Advantage or not... by gatkinso · · Score: 2

    Springs are not legs. Hence, he should not compete against athletes with legs.

    There should be another class for athletes like him.

    Perhaps also an open class, that allows any enhancements once can think of: drugs, surgery, doping, springs... game on.

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  20. Re:Link by hedwards · · Score: 2

    The issue is that it isn't a level playing field, or at least that's how it looks. I think there is more study necessary, but this definitely sets a dangerous precedent if he really does have an advantage due to the prosthesis. The Olympics have already slid way too far down the technological superiority path for my comfort, allowing for prosthesetic enhancements and such is not good.

  21. Very very BAD news by Kamiza+Ikioi · · Score: 2

    All the talk about his augmented legs, and not one photo in that article of said legs. That's WAY too PC when the augmentations themselves are the story.

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